2025 DRAFT Discussion

[schuelma24]

The good news for you guys is I think Detroit is going to like the guys you want them to like.

One of Martin, Bear, Eklund or Aitcheson is practically guaranteed to be there, unless Mrtka or McQueen falls.

 

[lilidk]

Of course should be best available player we take , but with Seider, Edvinsson and possible top 4 ASP, we kinda set on defense . Could Kasper and Danielson be 1+2 centers , possible. Kasper already showed, he could play top line. We are not desperate on c or d , we need power forward and high skilled Wings , that could play top 6. Bear, Eklund, Lakovic , Martin and Reschny

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Of course should be best available player we take , but with Seider, Edvinsson and possible top 4 ASP, we kinda set on defense . Could Kasper and Danielson be 1+2 centers , possible. Kasper already showed, he could play top line. We are not desperate on c or d , we need power forward and high skilled Wings , that could play top 6. Bear, Eklund, Lakovic , Martin and Reschny

MBN says hello to your power forward request.

We don’t know what ASP is yet. There are no LD or RD in the system beside him that are worth anything. AnJo might be a bottom pair guy but the rest are minor leaguers at best.

 

[Kingpin794]

Of course should be best available player we take , but with Seider, Edvinsson and possible top 4 ASP, we kinda set on defense . Could Kasper and Danielson be 1+2 centers , possible. Kasper already showed, he could play top line. We are not desperate on c or d , we need power forward and high skilled Wings , that could play top 6. Bear, Eklund, Lakovic , Martin and Reschny

We need those NOW. So you address that through trade or FA. We need D prospects in the system as we have basically no viable ones left.

 

[lilidk]

We need those NOW. So you address that through trade or FA. We need D prospects in the system as we have basically no viable ones left.

ASP, AJo , Seider and Edvinsson top 4 for Next 10 years or so . We desperately need Top 4 D via trade now+ like you said power forward.

 

[lilidk]

MBN says hello to your power forward request.

We don’t know what ASP is yet. There are no LD or RD in the system beside him that are worth anything. AnJo might be a bottom pair guy but the rest are minor leaguers at best.

MBN is very promising, but only one we have, need another one. There are couple guys in the second or later I like for our d.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

ASP, AJo , Seider and Edvinsson top 4 for Next 10 years or so . We desperately need Top 4 D via trade now+ like you said power forward.

I Was thinking earlier if the ridiculous rumour of buffalo parting ways with peterka I’d send them Albert johansson in a package deal if they needed a Dman on the right side.

Not who I’d want to deal but if we had seider asp on the right side and edvinsson left maybe we can trade for a Hague or k’miller etc..

 

[Kingpin794]

ASP, AJo , Seider and Edvinsson top 4 for Next 10 years or so . We desperately need Top 4 D via trade now+ like you said power forward.

That's being super optimistic that you're going to have that top for four 10 years. You'd be lucky to have that for 3 or 4. You might have some combo of those 4 over the course of 10 years but in all likelyhood, only 2 of those guys are on this team for a decade plus.

 

[lilidk]

That's being super optimistic that you're going to have that top for four 10 years. You'd be lucky to have that for 3 or 4. You might have some combo of those 4 over the course of 10 years but in all likelyhood, only 2 of those guys are on this team for a decade plus.

Of course if Seider demands trade , what can you do , but d-core is set and for our top 6 after Larkin we only have Raymond , Kasper and probably MBN. We have Plante, Kiiskennen, Buchelnikov, but they not even tried to play in AHL. What we know for sure that Seider and Edvinsson are top 4 on any team .

 

[Dotter]

I’ll admit I haven’t seen a lot, but from what I have seen he looks like a solid two way center. But the offense just doesn’t look there at the moment. Of course that could change.

If he becomes a 2C or above then that was a great to good pick. 3C wouldn’t not be good for where he was taken.

Again, I hope he turns it on and becomes Larkin’s replacement. Just have t seen anything that suggests that yet.

He's dangerous offensively. Whenever he has the puck, he makes things happen. He produced more points than Kasper did his rookie AHL season, but looks way more dangerous when he has the puck.

Don't sleep on Danielson, he has the mojo. He still needs to get stronger and make adjustments. His floor at this point is Valtteri Filppula. Filppula was always leaving me with wanting more. Danielson could be the same.

As for hoping he becomes Larkin's replacement.... then yeah you are setting yourself up for disappointment. That's a big ask.

 

[Murmansk16A]

If they draft Aitcheson, they'll also need to bring in Topeka and Santa Fe, so we'll have the whole triumvirate.

 

[Chad Smiley]

I was listening to the grind line podcast last night and Tony Ferrari was very high on forward Lynden Lakovic if he’s available at 13. He had him ranked #8 on his board. Any thoughts?

 

[lilidk]

I was listening to the grind line podcast last night and Tony Ferrari was very high on forward Lynden Lakovic if he’s available at 13. He had him ranked #8 on his board. Any thoughts?

2 years ago Tony had ASP at 5 and I believe he liked MBN for Red Wings last draft.

 

[lilidk]

He was also high on Raymond for Detroit

 

[Frk It]

I was listening to the grind line podcast last night and Tony Ferrari was very high on forward Lynden Lakovic if he’s available at 13. He had him ranked #8 on his board. Any thoughts?

Big skilled winger. If you squint your eyes, you can kind of see some Matt Boldy with him.

But the issue is he lacks intensity/urgency. Is that something that can be improved, or just how he is? If he puts it together he could definitely be a steal.

Players like this are hard to evaluate. I have a lot of time for him at #13 in a draft like this. But I would be surprised if Yzerman/Draper were as high on him. I think there is some truth to that saying you would rather try to get a player that has to dial it back as opposed to ratchet it up, as far as playing with intensity.

 

[Run the Jewels]

One of Martin, Bear, Eklund or Aitcheson is practically guaranteed to be there, unless Mrtka or McQueen falls.

Isn't the general consensus at this point that Martin will be long gone by 13? It seems like there are quite a few teams ahead of Detroit where they are almost certainly going to draft him. Eklund seems to have a shot at dropping due to size being prioritized at the top of the draft. Bear could fall due to the injury. I think Aitcheson is probably gone as well, looking at his shot, his net front defense, and his physical play he's probably too enticing for him to make it to 13.

 

[Frk It]

Isn't the general consensus at this point that Martin will be long gone by 13? It seems like there are quite a few teams ahead of Detroit where they are almost certainly going to draft him. Eklund seems to have a shot at dropping due to size being prioritized at the top of the draft. Bear could fall due to the injury. I think Aitcheson is probably gone as well, looking at his shot, his net front defense, and his physical play he's probably too enticing for him to make it to 13.

I believe Bob’s final ranking comes out the week before the draft. Should give us our best guess where guys will go, but it’s always a bit of a free for all after the top 5.

I would bet on Mrtka being the 2nd defenseman taken. I think the range for where Smith and Aitcheson could go is pretty wide.

 

[lilidk]

Big skilled winger. If you squint your eyes, you can kind of see some Matt Boldy with him.

But the issue is he lacks intensity/urgency. Is that something that can be improved, or just how he is? If he puts it together he could definitely be a steal.

Players like this are hard to evaluate. I have a lot of time for him at #13 in a draft like this. But I would be surprised if Yzerman/Draper were as high on him. I think there is some truth to that saying you would rather try to get a player that has to dial it back as opposed to ratchet it up, as far as playing with intensity.

He has higher potential than Danielson, also good helping D . At this draft at 13 he is excellent pick. Personality , that is very important for me , I trust Draper and Yzerman

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Big skilled winger. If you squint your eyes, you can kind of see some Matt Boldy with him.

But the issue is he lacks intensity/urgency. Is that something that can be improved, or just how he is? If he puts it together he could definitely be a steal.

Players like this are hard to evaluate. I have a lot of time for him at #13 in a draft like this. But I would be surprised if Yzerman/Draper were as high on him. I think there is some truth to that saying you would rather try to get a player that has to dial it back as opposed to ratchet it up, as far as playing with intensity.

I get the argument of Lakovic as a swing for the fences-type pick. I also, however, see a decade plus of frustration with him given how he plays. I listened to that interview and had to turn it off when one of those clowns said it was easier to teach physicality/intensity than skating. Sorry, you are either aggressive or you aren't. Anyone with kids or grandkids will know what I mean.

If you take Lakovic, don't be upset when he does not become the intense, aggressive player that you want him to be.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I get the argument of Lakovic as a swing for the fences-type pick. I also, however, see a decade plus of frustration with him given how he plays. I listened to that interview and had to turn it off when one of those clowns said it was easier to teach physicality/intensity than skating. Sorry, you are either aggressive or you aren't. Anyone with kids or grandkids will know what I mean.

If you take Lakovic, don't be upset when he does not become the intense, aggressive player that you want him to be.

The only thing I can think of is maybe somebody like Kasper or MBN would create room for Lakovic to play the style he does? Sort of like how Mantha could look good with somebody like Bertuzzi around.

 

[Kingpin794]

I was listening to the grind line podcast last night and Tony Ferrari was very high on forward Lynden Lakovic if he’s available at 13. He had him ranked #8 on his board. Any thoughts?

GM's drafting him will hope they get Tom Wilson out of him but they won't. If they want to go F, at least pick a skilled F. We have plenty of big guys that can play middle six minutes.

 

[Kingpin794]

Isn't the general consensus at this point that Martin will be long gone by 13? It seems like there are quite a few teams ahead of Detroit where they are almost certainly going to draft him. Eklund seems to have a shot at dropping due to size being prioritized at the top of the draft. Bear could fall due to the injury. I think Aitcheson is probably gone as well, looking at his shot, his net front defense, and his physical play he's probably too enticing for him to make it to 13.

He's (Martin) going in the top 10. He's the type of players GM's love. He might top out as a 55-65 pt player in the NHL but he'll work his ass off while having a letter on his chest.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

GM's drafting him will hope they get Tom Wilson out of him but they won't. If they want to go F, at least pick a skilled F. We have plenty of big guys that can play middle six minutes.

While I question his intensity, at no point would I ever call Lakovic a low-skill player.

 

[schuelma24]

While I question his intensity, at no point would I ever call Lakovic a low-skill player.

yeah seems like the opposite problem, potentially.

 

[Run the Jewels]

I decided to make my first foray into trying to review a prospect, so I did a write up on Kashawn Aitcheson. Here's the link, no paywall, free to read.

Prospect Overview: Kashawn Aitcheson

A series on prospects in the 2025 NHL draft

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