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Why do people want Martin so bad? His stats in the regular season don't seem great and his playoff stats are bad. I know stats are everything, but he is also small.

I'll answer that question.

He looks just like Sam Bennett. He's built the same way and plays the same way. Guys like that help you win cups and it's exactly what Detroit is missing.
 
I'll answer that question.

He looks just like Sam Bennett. He's built the same way and plays the same way. Guys like that help you win cups and it's exactly what Detroit is missing.
Also I saw a chart showing that he improved his points per game the most from the first half of the season to the second half of the season of all the relevant draft prospects.
 
I'll answer that question.

He looks just like Sam Bennett. He's built the same way and plays the same way. Guys like that help you win cups and it's exactly what Detroit is missing.
We have MBN, I think we have everything, but nothing great, that is the problem. Seider is Pronger slight , Raymond is Marner slight, ASP is Makar slight. Martin is no Tom Wilson and never be one.
Draper is building team with higher flour and it might work or we going to be Like Nashville
 
My issue is upside.

@13 he should be a Holloway.

@13 he could be a random 3rd liner.

What I like about Spence is his athleticism and bullish attitude on ice. I wouldn’t say he’s a power forward, but he goes to the hard areas. He works really hard to get the puck back for his team and is heavy on the forecheck.

My gripe is I don’t think he has a single skill that’s above average outside of straight ahead speed. He also disappears for stretches. The shift by shift viewings I saw he was invisible more than not. It was like he got lost if his teammates had the puck. It left me underwhelmed.

I think he can be a player based on athleticism alone, but I don’t expect him to be more than a 3rd liner as a best case scenario.
 
Just saw this report:

Marco D'Amico
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Told that 2025 NHL Draft prospect Carter Bear only suffered a partial laceration of his Achilles tendon, which his medical team believes is fully healed.He's begun to skate, but won't participate in the NHL Combine testing as a precaution. Expected to be ready for Dev Camp.

If Bear’s injury is healed and looking good I run to the podium for him at 13. (Assuming Martin isn’t there.)





This last video reiterates my comments about Bear earlier in this thread. Skilled shooter and passer that can play uptempo or slow things down. Smart, feisty, unrelenting worker. Will be hated by opposing defensemen. His play at 4:50 of the last video shows how well he can read opposition and force them into mistakes.
 
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How are people feeling about Eric Nilson? Looks like McKeen's has him around the 27th ranked prospect, and Bob has him straight up buried on his list, but people who've seen him play seem to be impressed. Do you think he'd still be around when we draft in the second round?
 
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I noticed this draft seemed old. Then I went down the rabbit hole and this must be the oldest top half of the 1st round ever.

Hagens, Martone, Eklund, MacQueen, Aitcheson, Bear, Carbonneau, Spence, Hensler and Lakovic are all born in 2006.

That is 10 of the top 18 prospects or so….
 
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in that case is Bear even there at 13?
If he gets taken before 13 that means someone drops , probably a Dman with our luck. I’m expecting a Dman at this point although I’d rather we get agressive this time and jump off 4-6 spots for a Martin etc..

Schaefer misa frondell desnoyers hagens martone Martin O’Brien will 100% be gone

Eklund likely and mrtka since he’s a right Dman 6’6 someone will bite ... if bear goes leaves us 1 spot before us and gotta think someone bites on McQueen

I’ll probably be way off and someone else slips lol

A lot of ppl have eklund coming down to us at 13 I still don’t see it

Leaves us Aitcheson smith Lakovic nesbitt reschny maybe they go with a fiddler/Hensler to fill up our right side d core?

Don’t see a lot of forward options unfortunately .... at this point if it goes like this I’ll say we’ll gamble on Jackson smith as our #13 pick
 
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We have MBN, I think we have everything, but nothing great, that is the problem. Seider is Pronger slight , Raymond is Marner slight, ASP is Makar slight. Martin is no Tom Wilson and never be one.
Draper is building team with higher flour and it might work or we going to be Like Nashville

I said he's like Sam Bennett not Tom Wilson.
Having 1 physical forward in MBN isn't going to get us anywhere we need more.
Martin is not going to fall to Detroit but I would love him on the Wings.
 
I said he's like Sam Bennett not Tom Wilson.
Having 1 physical forward in MBN isn't going to get us anywhere we need more.
Martin is not going to fall to Detroit but I would love him on the Wings.
Guy was taken #4 in 2014. Did Calgary make good a choice drafting him?
 
PRONMAN MAY 16 1ST ROUND SCOUTING REPORT

Summary:

2. Michael Misa, C (Saginaw, OHL)
Elite in transition with speed and skill. Not a bruiser, but competes well and has the offensive instincts to thrive in high-pressure games.


3. Porter Martone, RW (Mississauga, OHL)
Big frame, soft hands, and plays with edge. Skating is a question, but he’s tailor-made for playoff hockey: net-front presence, board battles, and greasy goals.


4. Caleb Desnoyers, C (Moncton, QMJHL)
200-foot center with size, smarts, and a grinder's game. Reliable, matchup-ready, and capable of chipping in offensively. Coaches will love him in the postseason.


5. Jake O’Brien, C (Brantford, OHL)
One of the smartest players in the class. Creates offense at the net, especially 5v5. Not overly physical, but fearless with a 6’2” frame and legit courage.


6. Roger McQueen, C (Brandon, WHL)
Massive, skilled, and fast. If not for injury concerns, he’d be top 3 here. High ceiling with undeniable playoff upside.


7. Anton Frondell, C (Djurgarden, Allsvenskan)
Physical, mature, and versatile. Can play in traffic or with finesse. Already proven against men.


8. Kashawn Aitcheson, D (Barrie, OHL)
Physical and fearless. Not flashy, but defends hard, skates well, and plays a style coaches lean on in the playoffs.


9. Radim Mrtka, D (Seattle, WHL)
Big, mobile, and poised. Ideal for logging heavy minutes — eats up ice and breaks up plays under pressure.


10. Victor Eklund, LW (Djurgarden, Allsvenskan)
Undersized but relentless. High motor, fast feet, and an agitator’s edge. Will be a thorn in every playoff opponent’s side.


11. James Hagens, C (Boston College)
Elite skill and vision, but gets pushed outside too often. World Juniors performance was strong, but questions linger on how his game holds up when the ice shrinks.


12. Daniil Prokhorov, LW (Dynamo St. Petersburg, MHL)
Straight-line, heavy winger who finishes checks. Not flashy but dependable when the game gets hard.


13. Brady Martin, C (Sault Ste. Marie, OHL)
Tough, skilled, and relentless. If he were 6’2”, he’d be higher — but still a nightmare to play against.


14. Blake Fiddler, D (Edmonton, WHL)
Big, mobile, and physical. Risky with the puck, but projects as a shutdown playoff D.


15. Jackson Smith, D (Tri-City, WHL)
Big and mobile with offensive upside. Some scouts doubt his instincts, but his tools will earn him trust in crunch time.


16. Sascha Boumedienne, D (Boston Univ.)
Raw but athletic. Skating and size give him a clear NHL ceiling despite the growing pains.


17. Justin Carbonneau, RW (Blainville-Boisbriand, QMJHL)
North-south winger with speed, hands, and compete. Wins battles and scores goals.


18. Joshua Ravensbergen, G (Prince George, WHL)
Big-game mentality. Tracks well, fights through traffic, and makes timely saves.


19. Malcolm Spence, LW (Erie, OHL)
Steady, smart, and hard-working. Not flashy, but eats minutes and wears teams down.


20. Braeden Cootes, C (Seattle, WHL)
Quick motor, solid hands. Doesn’t project as a star but could carve out a Trocheck-style role.


21. Cameron Reid, D (Kitchener, OHL)
Not huge but skates extremely well. Reliable in transition, with flashes of offense.


22. Henry Brzustewicz, D (London, OHL)
Two-way with size, strength, and a reliable first pass. Has the grit to handle playoff pressure.


23. Simon Wang, D (Oshawa, OHL)
Raw offensively, but huge with decent feet and physical edge. Could earn trust late in games.


24. Carter Bear, RW (Everett, WHL)
Skilled and competitive, but lacks standout traits. More of a depth guy in a playoff run.


25. William Horcoff, LW (Michigan, NCAA)
Heavy but smart. Not a burner, but crafty enough to find space and score.


26. Lynden Lakovic, RW (Moose Jaw, WHL)
High-end tools but wildly inconsistent. Risky playoff bet unless the motor improves.


27. Milton Gastrin, C (MODO, SHL)
Steady, responsible center. Doesn’t stand out but won’t hurt you either.


28. Eddie Genborg, LW (Linkoping, SHL)
Big, fast, and nasty. Lacks finesse but coaches love the physicality in the postseason.


29. Cole Reschny, C (Victoria, WHL)
Super skilled and clever, but size and skating limit his playoff projection.


30. Jack Nesbitt, C (Windsor, OHL)
Tough and talented, but skating remains a big concern.


31. Jakob Ihs-Wozniak, LW (Lulea, SHL)
Great shot and tools, but inconsistent. Playoff pace might be too much right now.


32. Bill Zonnon, C (Rouyn-Noranda, QMJHL)
Safe, balanced skill set. NHL future likely, but hard to project impact in top-6 or special teams roles.
 
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