Prospect Info: 2025 draft discussion

[Reddwit]

i know, but he was trending towards 1oa and now i have a hard time seeing that happen. i think now he could slip as low as 5

didn't he have a major injury last year too?

I doubt he slips at all. He’s that good.

 

[FMichael]

Please forgive my ignorance, but is there anyone projected in the top 5 prospects that are eligible for the draft this summer a legit 1st line center, or top pairing D?

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

I doubt he slips at all. He’s that good.

i can't see a prospect going 1st or 2nd overall when they miss half of their draft year. has anything like that ever happened?

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

i know, but he was trending towards 1oa and now i have a hard time seeing that happen. i think now he could slip as low as 5

didn't he have a major injury last year too?

A broken collarbone is a concern to 0/32 teams.

 

[Gniwder]

i can't see a prospect going 1st or 2nd overall when they miss half of their draft year. has anything like that ever happened?

MacKinnon missed 24 games out of a 66 game season due to what looked like a sprained knee (lower body injury of course). He was picked #1 ahead of his teammate Drouin (#3 OA), who missed 19 games the same season due to a shoulder injury.

Yakupov missed 26 games the in the previous draft, but he was a lock for #1 having scored 100+ points in the OHL in his D-1 season. #2 OA Ryan Murray also missed 24 games.

And IIRC, Malkin missed a few games his draft year. There was some question as to if Ovie or Malkin should go #1. The Caps didn't have a 1C, Danius Zubrus centered the first line after the lockout, lol. So maybe he dropped one spot.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Please forgive my ignorance, but is there anyone projected in the top 5 prospects that are eligible for the draft this summer a legit 1st line center, or top pairing D?

Hagens and Misa are potential top centers and Schaefer is a potential top pair D.

 

[Geezer WC]

i can't see a prospect going 1st or 2nd overall when they miss half of their draft year. has anything like that ever happened?

Didn't McDavid miss time after breaking his hand in a fight in his draft year?

 

[schuelma24]

Hagens and Misa are potential top centers and Schaefer is a potential top pair D.

I'd add that if you believe what Pronman is hearing from scouts, Desnoyer could project as a top line center.

There's McQueen as well, but personally I wouldn't touch him given his back issues.

 

[Gniwder]

Didn't McDavid miss time after breaking his hand in a fight in his draft year?

He missed 21 games.

 

[lilidk]

Should we target Eklund ?

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Schaefer is going number 1, doesn’t matter if he’s injured or not. He’s just that dynamic and gives teams the best chance at an elite talent. The only one who could take one from him is hagens but I think it will be a big mistake.

 

[Hobnobs]

Should we target Eklund ?

No? I think he's a middle of the draft talent pack kinda pick. Around 15-17.

 

[SantosHalper]

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[Barry Amsterdam]

No? I think he's a middle of the draft talent pack kinda pick. Around 15-17.

i strongly disagree i have him at 5 behind the big 4

 

[ElProfessor]

Top-5 Prospects (Athletic/THN/SportsNet/McKeen's)

James Hagens(C, 5-11, 177)(1/2/4/2)
Porter Martone(RW, 6-3, 208)(2/4/3/4)
Matthew Schaefer(LHD, 6-1, 174)(3/3/1/1)
Michael Misa(C/LW, 6-1, 175)(4/1/2/3)
Anton Frondell(C, 6-1, 200)(5/6/5/8)
...
Victor Eklund(LW, 5-11, 161)(11/5/7/6)
Roger McQueen(6/16/6/5)


Hagens. To me, a top-10 pick in most drafts...but nothing more special than that.

Martone. I genuinely don't like him. Idk why people assume he's going to be physical at the next level. And he's not that skilled.

Schaefer. Don't get the hype around him either. Doesn't seem as exciting as a prospect to me as ASP was. I think it's just a bad draft yr.

MISA. He's the one guy in this draft that I think would be a top 2-3 pick in any draft. Very good player. Very skilled. Very exciting.

Frondell. Seems like a pretty basic top-10 to 20 pick in most drafts.

Eklund. Ditto.

McQueen. He's pretty interesting to me. Basically a 6-5 Danielson. I wonder if he'll stick at center or put on a ton of muscle and be a monster winger. He'd probably be my 2nd choice behind Misa.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Top-5 Prospects (Athletic/THN/SportsNet/McKeen's)

James Hagens(C, 5-11, 177)(1/2/4/2)
Porter Martone(RW, 6-3, 208)(2/4/3/4)
Matthew Schaefer(LHD, 6-1, 174)(3/3/1/1)
Michael Misa(C/LW, 6-1, 175)(4/1/2/3)
Anton Frondell(C, 6-1, 200)(5/6/5/8)
...
Victor Eklund(LW, 5-11, 161)(11/5/7/6)
Roger McQueen(6/16/6/5)


Hagens. To me, a top-10 pick in most drafts...but nothing more special than that.

Martone. I genuinely don't like him. Idk why people assume he's going to be physical at the next level. And he's not that skilled.

Schaefer. Don't get the hype around him either. Doesn't seem as exciting as a prospect to me as ASP was. I think it's just a bad draft yr.

MISA. He's the one guy in this draft that I think would be a top 2-3 pick in any draft. Very good player. Very skilled. Very exciting.

Frondell. Seems like a pretty basic top-10 to 20 pick in most drafts.

Eklund. Ditto.

McQueen. He's pretty interesting to me. Basically a 6-5 Danielson. I wonder if he'll stick at wing or put on a ton of muscle and be a monster winger. He'd probably be my 2nd choice behind Misa.

mcqueen over hagens is certainly a take

 

[ElProfessor]

mcqueen over hagens is certainly a take

Well he's 6 inches taller...skates about as well...and isn't very behind skill wise. He's not an elite skill guy like Rick Nash or anything. But maybe a poor man's Joe Thornton if everything goes well.

If I'm drafting him, I'm mailing him industrial barrels of protein powder and trying to get him up to 220, 230. He could be something.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Well he's 6 inches taller...skates about as well...and isn't very behind skill wise. He's not an elite skill guy like Rick Nash or anything. But maybe a poor man's Joe Thornton if everything goes well.

If I'm drafting him, I'm mailing him industrial barrels of protein powder and trying to get him up to 220, 230. He could be something.

he’ll be closer to rasmussen than thornton

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

If the Wings can win enough to be out of the absolute basement, that 1st round pick is good as gone, IMO. Yzerman just got shifted into win now mode, whether he likes it or not, and whether that's intelligent or not.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

If the Wings can win enough to be out of the absolute basement, that 1st round pick is good as gone, IMO. Yzerman just got shifted into win now mode, whether he likes it or not, and whether that's intelligent or not.

If that 1st gets traded for a young player (24 or under) then I’m all for it. Cozens or Mctavish or Beniers or someone like that? Yes please. No Zegras though.

 

[ElProfessor]

he’ll be closer to rasmussen than thornton

He's got very Danielson-like skill already. He'd have to regress QUITE a bit to get down to Ras level.

 

[HoweFan]

I’m 3/3 in the last 3 drafts where I said we’d take Kasper at 8, Danielson at 9 if Leonard wasn’t available, and MBN if he were available. I don’t see Frondell as a wings pick unless we’re middle of the first. THIS kid screams 3rd liner to me.

Aside from being Swedish I don’t see any appeal to Frondell. Not a top tier skater, shooter or playmaker. Not top tier grit, size or intangibles. Not top tier IQ. Danielson and Kasper each had at least 4 of the 7 traits I listed.

The Wings are trending toward a top 6 pick and I see about 10 forwards I like better than Frondell for that spot. I’m focusing my attention on them more.

Ok you can’t just leave us hanging. If we draft sixth and the big four are gone along with Frondel who are you taking. I like your scouting skills better than anyone’s on this board. By the way I was kinda thinking Frondel but not now

 

[schuelma24]

Ok you can’t just leave us hanging. If we draft sixth and the big four are gone along with Frondel who are you taking. I like your scouting skills better than anyone’s on this board. By the way I was kinda thinking Frondel but not now

I know you're not talking to me, but I'd lean Desnoyers or Eklund.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

If that 1st gets traded for a young player (24 or under) then I’m all for it. Cozens or Mctavish or Beniers or someone like that? Yes please. No Zegras though.

Rather keep that first and try and get another 1st like we did with bertuzzi to get debrincat and then make that move

We dont have alot of chips but if we can take advantage of talbot at 50% to a cash strapped contender and get it in a package deal I wouldnt even think twice hes getting up in age and has no longterm future here

Dont think mctavish will end up getting dealt and beniers 100% wont. But a similar deal(s) is what we should be aiming for

Hague / k'andre miller/byram

Cozens ... I know you said your against zegras and I know yzerman never would but I wouldnt hate it. Hes got a ton of skill which we need and we already have a bunch of 2 way guys to help him on the ice

apparently rangers are pissed at zibenajad??? Dont know his salary or contract but I'd consider it depending how many yrs he has left and if it's a cheap deal like trouba one

Ya scratch that gonna be 32 and still has 5 more years at 8.5 ... non mercie... should stick to 22-25 year olds

 

[Gniwder]

he’ll be closer to rasmussen than thornton

Watch 5 minutes of his highlights and you'll realize he really doesn't look like either player. He's well above Raz in skating, stick handling, puck protection, passing, and shooting. He needs to add some bulk, maybe add a little more power to his skating, but looks to me like 3C is his absolute floor while Raz is playing 4th line winger right now.