NHL 2025 DRAFT - Bruins pick 7th

On the flip side, I remember the injury concerns with Nolan Patrick. The Flyers took him at 2OA still and it tailspun his career like no tomorrow. One of the most unfortunate draft stories in the last decade.

Roger McQueen reportedly has spondylosis. It can be a chronic injury that affects the spine. A chronic back injury raises a BUNCH of red flags to me. The back ain't something to take lightly. I think with our prospects being as bare as they are, the risks outweigh the possible reward with him.

As you said, it really depends on how Boston's medical staff sees him. If they think this could be dealt with then it might be a chance worth taking in Sweeney's eyes. I just think that's a pick that a team like Anaheim or Buffalo could afford to take a swing on as they're not lacking in prospects.

I think with McQueen having the injury history he's had, the risks could lead to either

A) Stunt his career completely
B) Stunt his development if he can't stay healthy in his formative years which can limit his ceiling
C) lead him to be an effective, even high end NHLer who can't play a full 82.

I think the optimistic way to look at it is looking at Gabe Vilardi. He also had some reported chronic back issues and he's turned out to be an effective player. Even then, he's yet to play a full 82.

Either way, I hope he overcomes it no matter where he's drafted.
Yeah the Gabe Vilardi comparison isn’t overly optimistic. Seven years after he was drafted, he finally had his first 60 point season.

I’m with the majority here. McQueen may be an interesting player, but no way on God’s Green Hell do I take him at 7OA.
 
Am I the only one who wants McQueen over Desnoyers, Martin and O'Brien? YES

Bruins prospect list is thin, very thin
They have been fortunate to draft Lohreil & Poitras in round 2

Lysell seems to be a 1st round miss

BPA or Trade down for draft capital

#7 to Detroit for #13 + a 2nd
What the F? We have half the board “hoping we don’t pick this high again for a long time”, like this team is a quick fix, and one #7 makes us a contender. Then you have guys suggesting trade down. If this franchise doesn’t know how to pick a better player at #7 than #13, then that’s a shame and we should fire the whole scouting department.
 
Am I the only one who wants McQueen over Desnoyers, Martin and O'Brien? YES

Bruins prospect list is thin, very thin
They have been fortunate to draft Lohreil & Poitras in round 2

Lysell seems to be a 1st round miss

BPA or Trade down for draft capital

#7 to Detroit for #13 + a 2nd
Fwiw, I don't put McQueen over Desnoyers or O'Brien. I've watched him play, and yeah he's an enticing package at 6'5 with hands but so was Letourneau. Size and hands don't always equal production or dominance. If you project McQueen's production over 66 games he'd have 77 points, that's less than 6'1 Desnoyer's 99 points, 6'2 O'Brien's 98 points, it's even less than 6' (but 10x more physical) Martin's 83 points. Points aren't everything, but other big indicators of future success, like compete-level and pace aren't strong suits for McQueen either. It's his raw natural abilities that make him a high pick.
 
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Am I the only one who wants McQueen over Desnoyers, Martin and O'Brien?

I remember when injuries pushed teams away from drafting a young Czech winger so the Bruins got him late.

I am genuinely curious as to how much the Bruins and other teams medical staff will have access to McQueen.

Once Boston loses out on Misa, Hagens and Frondell at that point I am genuinely curious as to who would take a risk on the upside of McQueen over the 2nd line potential of Desnoyers, O'Brien and Martin.

Maybe Desnoyers upside is higher than what I've read.
Yes 100% you are the only one. I do fear more then anything McQueen. I know he has big time upside but he also has one of the lowest floors of the top guys in addition to the injury risk. That's just too much for me.
 
Yeah the Gabe Vilardi comparison isn’t overly optimistic. Seven years after he was drafted, he finally had his first 60 point season.

I’m with the majority here. McQueen may be an interesting player, but no way on God’s Green Hell do I take him at 7OA.
Nobody should be surprised if McQueen ends up as a top 3 forward from this draft, but nobody should draft him in the top 7 given his health uncertainty right now either.
 
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Second round I like Vaclav Nestrasil. Big boy. Has similarities to Washinton's Protas imo.
Protas younger brother Ilya just finished his junior career with the Windsor Spitfires. 6"5" 201 pounds. 128 points this past season. Drafted by Washington. These are the players Sweeney misses by not drafting enough CHL players. Guaranteed he won't be in the AHL too long.
 
Protas younger brother Ilya just finished his junior career with the Windsor Spitfires. 6"5" 201 pounds. 128 points this past season. Drafted by Washington. These are the players Sweeney misses by not drafting enough CHL players. Guaranteed he won't be in the AHL too long.
Protos was drafted out of the USHL and didn't commit to Windsor until after he was drafted by the Caps.

Maybe Sweeney should draft more USHL players?
 
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What the F? We have half the board “hoping we don’t pick this high again for a long time”, like this team is a quick fix, and one #7 makes us a contender. Then you have guys suggesting trade down. If this franchise doesn’t know how to pick a better player at #7 than #13, then that’s a shame and we should fire the whole scouting department.
Completely agree. Take the best guy. A longshot in the 2nd in a shallow draft isn't worth having your pick of players at 7. If there is someone there at the 2nd you have to have, move something else to get a pick there.
 
BPA all day. No trading down. No trading up. You need one stud and”multiple prospects” not only this year but also next. FA class is extremely top heavy. Chances are that Bruins don’t get a “prize” in free agency and that next year is a chase for the playoffs. That means at least another top 12 pick. They had a great run. The hope should be that over the next two drafts they fill the cupboard with talent while competing all year to make the playoffs. BPA every round. Wingers/Def/Centers. The team needs NEW talent everywhere.
 
Am I the only one who wants McQueen over Desnoyers, Martin and O'Brien?

I remember when injuries pushed teams away from drafting a young Czech winger so the Bruins got him late.

I am genuinely curious as to how much the Bruins and other teams medical staff will have access to McQueen.

Once Boston loses out on Misa, Hagens and Frondell at that point I am genuinely curious as to who would take a risk on the upside of McQueen over the 2nd line potential of Desnoyers, O'Brien and Martin.

Maybe Desnoyers upside is higher than what I've read.
Yes
 
It’s just not worth it to trade up a couple spots imo. None of these players have a clear consensus for #3 or #4 or anything like that, and you also don’t know who could fall to you at #7. Trading up for #2 for Misa would the only surefire player. If you were trading up to #2 with the Sharks, I’d try to grab Askarov at the same time but the cost either way is going to be quite uncomfortable.

I’d prefer we stay where we are, with a likely shot at O’Brien, even higher shot at Martin, and slim chance at Desnoyers, or trade back because someone tries to knock our socks off with a return that includes an NHL player. Something like our 2025 1st and Torontos 2026 1st + for Anaheims 10thOA and McTavish would be of interest to us, but maybe not Anaheim.
 
I just find the line between a C and Winger has becoming increasingly blurred every passing year, at the NHL level specifically, with the speed, pace and style of today's NHL game.

I recall a point you made awhile back about defensive zone systems, and how maybe the zone D systems are going the way of the dodo bird. And watching these playoffs I'm starting to think you are bang on. In a zone D, you need that strong defensive player in the middle to help defend down low. Is these more fluid hybrid or man-to-man systems which seems to be where the game is trending, I don't think it matters as much. You get situations where the wingers have to come down low, centers chasing up high. In the offensive zone in the case of a turnover, the high forward is just that, the high forward, doesn't really matter what position they started on the face-off.

Going back to the draft, I don't look at it as it's super-hard to find elite centers outside of the Top 10 of the draft, I see it as it's super-hard to find truly elite players outside the Top 10 of the draft. This league is driven by elite players, the more of them you have, the better.

Colorado found that out the hard way this year. For years people screamed that Toronto needs to trade Nylander and spread his cap around to beef up the D and G. I think it's clear they made the right call holding onto Nylander who may be their best player. I don't see them letting Marner walk this summer.

The only reason the Bruins didn't fall off earlier like Chicago is because they found an elite player in Pasta in the later part of the 1st round, and found a pseudo-elite D-man in McAvoy outside the Top 10. Those two picks extended the Bruins window beyond that of their late 2000s/early 2010 contemporaries.

If I'm drafting high, I wouldn't be picky and try to identify a positional need. Whoever I feel the best player available is, should also be the one with the best chance of becoming an elite player, take that player.
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Excellent points all.

I would even advise a second reading.

Especially given the way the NHL is trending toward elite talent Uber Alles and the ability of today's best forwards to play a hybrid wing/center, select the most elite talent @ #7 regardless of position.

To include defensemen.

All of the "second tier" draftees are intriguing, likely to help in significant fashion going forward, and you never know who might be available.

I trust Sweeney will prove more prepared for multiple contingencies in 2025 than he was in 2015.

Ed.Note: Make that *hope.*
 
Fwiw, I don't put McQueen over Desnoyers or O'Brien. I've watched him play, and yeah he's an enticing package at 6'5 with hands but so was Letourneau. Size and hands don't always equal production or dominance. If you project McQueen's production over 66 games he'd have 77 points, that's less than 6'1 Desnoyer's 99 points, 6'2 O'Brien's 98 points, it's even less than 6' (but 10x more physical) Martin's 83 points. Points aren't everything, but other big indicators of future success, like compete-level and pace aren't strong suits for McQueen either. It's his raw natural abilities that make him a high pick.
McQueen's also a year older than those other prospects. In his 17 year old season he had 51pts in 53 games which isn't very impressive. Easily the most overrated prospect in this draft to me.
 

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