NHL 2025 DRAFT - Bruins pick 7th III

[analyser]

Knee jerk decisions? I don't see that at all.

Did the Bruins acquire Pageau and I missed it

Their is talk going around about a big deal with the Islanders which would include Pageau. I think some of decisions he made at the trade deadline would qualify as knee jerk.

Things were not working out over the past season so he just decided to do something just to save his ass. He did not exactly handle free agency real well last season. I hope he does not screw up the 7th overall pick or waste the cap space he has available.

 

[Ratty]

I think people better not sleep on how high McQueen will go given his health.

With no injury issues, he was going #3...

According to reports McQueen’s injury was not muscular related, an issue that can be ongoing. It was a skeletal matter which has apparently healed. His performance in the exercises indicates that he has overcome his injury and returned to normal. That’s the way, anyway, I’m reading the reports.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If you look at the entire package I think Bennett was given for a 2nd round pick or something. It's bad real bad. Those 2 players are the best in the world right now.

No, they are not.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Their is talk going around about a big deal with the Islanders which would include Pageau. I think some of decisions he made at the trade deadline would qualify as knee jerk.

Things were not working out over the past season so he just decided to do something just to save his ass. He did not exactly handle free agency real well last season. I hope he does not screw up the 7th overall pick or waste the cap space he has available.

That sounds like bullshit to me.

 

[ODAAT]

Their is talk going around about a big deal with the Islanders which would include Pageau. I think some of decisions he made at the trade deadline would qualify as knee jerk.

Things were not working out over the past season so he just decided to do something just to save his ass. He did not exactly handle free agency real well last season. I hope he does not screw up the 7th overall pick or waste the cap space he has available.

there is no such thing as a "big deal" when the name Pageau is the centerpiece, a solid but hardly a needle mover player

 

[CellyHard]

Wouldn’t surprise me really Sweeney may want immediate help to insure they have a shot to make the playoffs,and not someone who may play for them a season or two down the road.Difficult call would normally say should keep picks and build from the draft ,but then I look at Florida who pretty much did the opposite.

Florida did the opposite but they targeted the perfect players all at the right age.

Tkachuk 25, Bennett 24, Reinhart 26, Verhaeghe 25, Forsling 24

They added these guys to a drafted Barkov and Ekblad with a signed #1 in Bob

Bruins have something similar in Pasta, McAvoy and Swayman they just need to target that 25 and under group and shoot big on someone like Elias Pettersson, JJ Peterka, McTavish

Then the other area of guys who have fallen out of favor like Nick Robertson, Jack Quinn, Mavrik Borque.

They can still look around free agency just like the Panthers did with getting Mikola, E-Rod, Kulikov but they didn't overpay and brought them into a system that fits their game (think Luke Kunin, Jeannot, that ilk)

I don't really think the method is that complicated it just comes down to targeting the right players.

Trading a boatload for an often injured 28 year old Barzal is not the same and Pageau is even farther from that.

 

[analyser]

That sounds like bullshit to me.

It can sound to you as you wish.

 

[yazmybaby]

According to reports McQueen’s injury was not muscular related, an issue that can be ongoing. It was a skeletal matter which has apparently healed. His performance in the exercises indicates that he has overcome his injury and returned to normal. That’s the way, anyway, I’m reading the reports.

I am sure the Bruins and any other interested teams that want to draft him have talked to medical specialists about the short term and long term effects of his injury.

 

[analyser]

there is no such thing as a "big deal" when the name Pageau is the centerpiece, a solid but hardly a needle mover player

Obviously it would incude some other pieces of which Dobson has been mentioned.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Florida did the opposite but they targeted the perfect players all at the right age.

Tkachuk 25, Bennett 24, Reinhart 26, Verhaeghe 25, Forsling 24

They added these guys to a drafted Barkov and Ekblad with a signed #1 in Bob

Bruins have something similar in Pasta, McAvoy and Swayman they just need to target that 25 and under group and shoot big on someone like Elias Pettersson, JJ Peterka, McTavish

Then the other area of guys who have fallen out of favor like Nick Robertson, Jack Quinn, Mavrik Borque.

They can still look around free agency just like the Panthers did with getting Mikola, E-Rod, Kulikov but they didn't overpay and brought them into a system that fits their game (think Luke Kunin, Jeannot, that ilk)

I don't really think the method is that complicated it just comes down to targeting the right players.

Trading a boatload for an often injured 28 year old Barzal is not the same and Pageau is even farther from that.

If you can pick up a player like Forsling off of waivers, that would be a big help.

 

[yazmybaby]

Florida did the opposite but they targeted the perfect players all at the right age.

Tkachuk 25, Bennett 24, Reinhart 26, Verhaeghe 25, Forsling 24

They added these guys to a drafted Barkov and Ekblad with a signed #1 in Bob

Bruins have something similar in Pasta, McAvoy and Swayman they just need to target that 25 and under group and shoot big on someone like Elias Pettersson, JJ Peterka, McTavish

Then the other area of guys who have fallen out of favor like Nick Robertson, Jack Quinn, Mavrik Borque.

They can still look around free agency just like the Panthers did with getting Mikola, E-Rod, Kulikov but they didn't overpay and brought them into a system that fits their game (think Luke Kunin, Jeannot, that ilk)

I don't really think the method is that complicated it just comes down to targeting the right players.

Trading a boatload for an often injured 28 year old Barzal is not the same and Pageau is even farther from that.

I count seven players from your mentioned list, we have 3 right now and you missed Seth Jones, who IMO was huge for the Panthers in the playoffs.
How do we get the other 4 players with the cap space we have?
This is a challenge we have along with all the NHL teams, how to balance the cap and keep talent?
You need a solid mix of draft picks and players making 1M year, a great goalie, at least 2 stud defencemen and three balanced offensive lines.
And a legit number one center which we do not have and is so hard to get.
Our issue is and always has been for the last 10 years is scoring goals. We need forwards that shoot and can put the puck in the net.
We had the third lowest goals for total last year.
Two players Geekie and Pasty scored more than 20 goals last year.
Hopefully DS addresses this with trades / draft picks and UFA signing this year.
Acquiring Barzal only makes sense to me if Casey is heading the other way along with another crappy contract like HL.
A trade like Barzal and Dobson for CM,HL and our first round pick this year would make a great deal of sense to me.
Our team is immediately better and we still have cap space to plug holes.
The best two players in this trade are coming to the Bruins.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I think people better not sleep on how high McQueen will go given his health.

With no injury issues, he was going #3...

Possibly, but you are then speculating that he would have had a monster season, and maybe he would have. If he played 60 games like the 18 he played he wouldn't be top 3

Looking back at preseason rankings, before the injuries McKenzies survey of scouts had Hagen as the consensus #1, with McQueen at 6 and Misa at 7, with Ryabkin as #5. So ultimately that shows that play on the ice really impacted rankings.

McQueen plays really well he is top 3, McQueen shows more and more of the questions he showed in 18 game without the injury, he might drop. As it seems people are giving him a bit of a pass for his limitations

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Possibly, but you are then speculating that he would have had a monster season, and maybe he would have. If he played 60 games like the 18 he played he wouldn't be top 3

Looking back at preseason rankings, before the injuries McKenzies survey of scouts had Hagen as the consensus #1, with McQueen at 6 and Misa at 7, with Ryabkin as #5. So ultimately that shows that play on the ice really impacted rankings.

McQueen plays really well he is top 3, McQueen shows more and more of the questions he showed in 18 game without the injury, he might drop. As it seems people are giving him a bit of a pass for his limitations

Ya think so?

 

[Dr Quincy]

I am sure the Bruins and any other interested teams that want to draft him have talked to medical specialists about the short term and long term effects of his injury.

Yes, but Columbus talked to medical specialists about Cayden Lindstrom last year and they all thought he was going to be ready for training camp. Didn't play until May. When it comes to backs, no doctor can really know for sure, because the minute the player starts training again or worse.. playing... all bets are off.

 

[CellyHard]

I count seven players from your mentioned list, we have 3 right now and you missed Seth Jones, who IMO was huge for the Panthers in the playoffs.
How do we get the other 4 players with the cap space we have?
This is a challenge we have along with all the NHL teams, how to balance the cap and keep talent?
You need a solid mix of draft picks and players making 1M year, a great goalie, at least 2 stud defencemen and three balanced offensive lines.
And a legit number one center which we do not have and is so hard to get.
Our issue is and always has been for the last 10 years is scoring goals. We need forwards that shoot and can put the puck in the net.
We had the third lowest goals for total last year.
Two players Geekie and Pasty scored more than 20 goals last year.
Hopefully DS addresses this with trades / draft picks and UFA signing this year.
Acquiring Barzal only makes sense to me if Casey is heading the other way along with another crappy contract like HL.
A trade like Barzal and Dobson for CM,HL and our first round pick this year would make a great deal of sense to me.
Our team is immediately better and we still have cap space to plug holes.
The best two players in this trade are coming to the Bruins.

If were just matching players up and nothing is apples to apples here but it's something like

Tkachuk - Pasta
Reinhart - Geekie (off-brand version)
Verhaeghe - ??
Bennett - Lindholm (as a #2C and production)
Barkov - ??
Lundell - Zacha

Ekblad - McAvoy
Forsling - H. Lindholm
Seth Jones - ??
Mikola - Zadorov

Bob - Sway

To reiterate, I am not comparing them as if the Bruins players are as good as the panthers but I'm designing to show that we essentially need a #1C (Barkov) a top tier goal scorer (Verhaeghe) and a top 3/4 defenseman (Seth Jones) and a couple of other decent players to round out the roster.

It may never be as good as Florida but you never know when you get into the playoffs. This team is a dynasty. It ain't going to be easy.

 

[yazmybaby]

Yes, but Columbus talked to medical specialists about Cayden Lindstrom last year and they all thought he was going to be ready for training camp. Didn't play until May. When it comes to backs, no doctor can really know for sure, because the minute the player starts training again or worse.. playing... all bets are off.

That is why IMO you pass on McQueen, unless he falls to a spot that the risk is worth it, like somewhere after pick 10.

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[Blowfish]

I heard this guy is good.

 

[DKH]

i thought we settled on JTS/jimmythinskinzzz

They were talking you up during one of the SC games on something - send me a pm with some juicy stuff. Boyle looks like the next star. Always pissed me off Donny didn’t grab him in 2015 as their 4th line center

Btw here is my top 7 as GM
Islanders - Schaefer
Sharks - Misa
Chicago -Desnoyers
Utah - Martin
Nashville - Hagens
Flyers - Frondell
Bruins - Martone

Book it

 

[goldenblack]

They were talking you up during one of the SC games on something - send me a pm with some juicy stuff. Boyle looks like the next star. Always pissed me off Donny didn’t grab him in 2015 as their 4th line center

Btw here is my top 7 as GM
Islanders - Schaefer
Sharks - Misa
Chicago -Desnoyers
Utah - Martin
Nashville - Hagens
Flyers - Frondell
Bruins - Martone

Book it

That we've had 4 different very good and very likely guys at 7 is fun.

I do think it's one of Martin, Martone, or McQueen.

 

[DKH]

That we've had 4 different very good and very likely guys at 7 is fun.

I do think it's one of Martin, Martone, or McQueen.

I’ve watched enough Martin to be all in

Bill Armstrong is a tough guy but a super person and all accounts fun upbeat. I can see Brady Martin being exactly what he wants

Martone I see Mark Stone more then Perry who’s kind of a prick and Tkachuks who are

I’d still love Eklund but Martone totally get and would take

Do the Bruins use the pick

 

[yazmybaby]

If were just matching players up and nothing is apples to apples here but it's something like

Tkachuk - Pasta
Reinhart - Geekie (off-brand version)
Verhaeghe - ??
Bennett - Lindholm (as a #2C and production)
Barkov - ??
Lundell - Zacha

Ekblad - McAvoy
Forsling - H. Lindholm
Seth Jones - ??
Mikola - Zadorov

Bob - Sway

To reiterate, I am not comparing them as if the Bruins players are as good as the panthers but I'm designing to show that we essentially need a #1C (Barkov) a top tier goal scorer (Verhaeghe) and a top 3/4 defenseman (Seth Jones) and a couple of other decent players to round out the roster.

It may never be as good as Florida but you never know when you get into the playoffs. This team is a dynasty. It ain't going to be easy.

You said it, " it ain't that easy".
Finding the number one center ( Barkov) is the hardest position to fill.
We are overloaded with bottom six forwards / fourth liners and 5/6 dee.
Hoping DS can draft a decent prospect with our 7th pick and one of Minten or Potsy can turn into a 50 points plus player next year.

 

[yazmybaby]

I’ve watched enough Martin to be all in

Bill Armstrong is a tough guy but a super person and all accounts fun upbeat. I can see Brady Martin being exactly what he wants

Martone I see Mark Stone more then Perry who’s kind of a prick and Tkachuks who are

I’d still love Eklund but Martone totally get and would take

Do the Bruins use the pick

Your comp on Martone is spot on.
Living close to Brampton, I watched him play this year and he is always making something happen.
My only concern with Martone is that sometimes he does not fully engage during the game and his compete level could be better.
Eklund is the opposite, he like a dog on a bone, never gives up and is always trying hard.

 

[Kegs]

the player i would trade for the #3 pick is Morgan Geekie.
Take advantage of his one year break out year.
save money on his expected raise for an extension.
draft your 2 centres of the future with the #3 pick and #7 pick.
use geekie money projected on another UFA

I do not think an unsigned geekie is worth the #3 pick. Maybe signed and traded at the deadline at late first or a second. Maybe a third now.

#3 pick will be expensive I expect.

 

[GordonHowe]

Brady Martin could be the next Sam Bennet. Could that entice Bruins to take him with the No. 7 pick?

With the No. 7 pick, the Bruins could target an on-ice wrecking ball in Brady Martin. But Martin's ceiling does raise some questions.

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