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Based on the 3 guys that now look possible at #7, someone sell me on O'Brien (who isn't in the 3 I speak of).

How reliable is he at 7? I've seen him go anywhere from 6 to 12 (which is part of the problem).

How mad would you be if they went O'Brien over Martone and Desnoyers? That's the universe where Martin and a healthy McQueen continue to get the buzz the street has right now (which might be nothing) and both land in the top 6.

I'm asking because both Desnoyers and Martone have ranked as high as #2 or #3 at times. Seems incredible to see their value down there at 7, and pass for O'Brien. I suppose we can ask the same question of picking O'Brien over Hagens if that choice is there.
I would go Desnoyers, Martone, Martin. O'Brien from the reports I have read could become a very good playmaking second line center or the next Casey Mittlestadt who never lives up to his potential. The gamble of an injured back on an 18 year old in McQueen or a gamble in O'Briens high end make neither great picks to me. Hagens is showing too many red flags to me, sounds to much like a Lysell.

If I had to pick between those three I would go with McQueen and hope his back holds up.
 
Jake O'Brien (Center)
Team: Brantford Bulldogs (OHL)
Size: 6'2", 170-177 lbs | Shoots: Right
Draft Look: Top 10 - Mid 1st Round

The Good:
Super Smart: High hockey IQ, always knows where to be.
Playmaker: Excellent at setting up goals for teammates.
Two-Way: Good at offense, but also very responsible defensively.
Good Size: Already tall, can protect the puck well.

Needs Work:
Get Stronger: Needs to add muscle to his frame.
Faceoffs: Can improve his win rate.

NHL Outlook: Looks like a future top-six center, probably a second-line star who makes his line better.
I love all of the "good" with him.
Needs work.....every player in this draft needs to mature and get stronger so that is not a concern for me.
He already gained around 30 pounds from his OHL draft year to date, so you can see his projection should be around 195 pounds when he is 22-24 YO.
The faceoff improvement is not a concern for me as well, this can be fixed with training and repetition.
He should be able to get to at least league average and will be a fine player.
 
I love all of the "good" with him.
Needs work.....every player in this draft needs to mature and get stronger so that is not a concern for me.
He already gained around 30 pounds from his OHL draft year to date, so you can see his projection should be around 195 pounds when he is 22-24 YO.
The faceoff improvement is not a concern for me as well, this can be fixed with training and repetition.
He should be able to get to at least league average and will be a fine player.
A good comp for JOB is Marc Savard--not saying he will be as good (I have no idea HOW good he will be)--but he is that type of player.

My worry is the difference between PP and ES for his points. What that does tell me that is good, is that if you get open, you WILL get the puck.

Of the players that might be available, I also like Martone (he's probably gone before 7) and Hagens. Both have 1st line potential. Does Eklund? I don't know.
 
Just watched the McKeens mock on Youtube and they had the Bruins taking Jackson Smith over Martin, Job, Eklund and McQueen.
And honestly, I'd probably get there on Jackson Smith, but there would be voices in my head over the guys we passed up. I would immediately be comparing our player to what could have been over and over again. And if half my guys are worse then Smith, and only half are better I will likely only remember the one(s) who is better and it will torment me for years, until he's finally traded away and the pain finally dissipates like JDB and the draft that is not to be mentioned. :)
 
Maybe the Bruins organization did not at the time have a problem with it. But I certainly remember Harry bitching about it and saying it was not cool to do it.

"Harry Sinden, then Bruins president, was notably unhappy about Ray Bourque bringing the Stanley Cup to Boston’s City Hall after winning it with the Colorado Avalanche, reportedly calling the event "embarrassing". Despite this, Bourque publicly defended Sinden during his jersey retirement ceremony, telling fans he respected Sinden and appreciated his role in his career—even asking the crowd to stop booing Sinden when he mentioned him. Bourque and Sinden never discussed the City Hall celebration directly, but Bourque said he had no problem with that. Sinden later praised Bourque’s professionalism and leadership, calling his career "a wonderful guide for how a professional athlete should appear and how he should behave and how he should play"."

No maybe.


Here's how it happened:
  • The Invitation: After the Colorado Avalanche won the Stanley Cup, Boston Mayor Thomas Menino's office contacted Bourque's agent to see if he would be willing to bring the Cup to Boston to celebrate with his former Bruins fans at City Hall.
  • Bourque's Hesitation: Bourque initially declined, as he didn't want to overshadow or embarrass the Bruins.
  • Bruins Approval: His agent then contacted the Bruins general manager, Mike O'Connell, who was okay with Bourque's celebration in Boston.
  • The Celebration: With the Bruins' approval, Bourque brought the Stanley Cup to Boston City Hall Plaza for a rally where he could share his victory with the fans who supported him throughout his long career with the Bruins.
Essentially, it was a gesture of goodwill initiated by the city and facilitated by the Bruins organization, allowing Bourque to share his long-awaited championship with his dedicated fanbase in Boston.
 
No maybe.


Here's how it happened:
  • The Invitation: After the Colorado Avalanche won the Stanley Cup, Boston Mayor Thomas Menino's office contacted Bourque's agent to see if he would be willing to bring the Cup to Boston to celebrate with his former Bruins fans at City Hall.
  • Bourque's Hesitation: Bourque initially declined, as he didn't want to overshadow or embarrass the Bruins.
  • Bruins Approval: His agent then contacted the Bruins general manager, Mike O'Connell, who was okay with Bourque's celebration in Boston.
  • The Celebration: With the Bruins' approval, Bourque brought the Stanley Cup to Boston City Hall Plaza for a rally where he could share his victory with the fans who supported him throughout his long career with the Bruins.
Essentially, it was a gesture of goodwill initiated by the city and facilitated by the Bruins organization, allowing Bourque to share his long-awaited championship with his dedicated fanbase in Boston.
I was speaking primarily of Harry's reaction at the time.
 
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I would go Desnoyers, Martone, Martin. O'Brien from the reports I have read could become a very good playmaking second line center or the next Casey Mittlestadt who never lives up to his potential. The gamble of an injured back on an 18 year old in McQueen or a gamble in O'Briens high end make neither great picks to me. Hagens is showing too many red flags to me, sounds to much like a Lysell.

If I had to pick between those three I would go with McQueen and hope his back holds up.
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If the Bruins wanted to get back into the 1st round, the two teams I'd look at are Chicago & Nashville.

Chicago - #25
Nashville - #23 & #26

Some names that could be available in that mid 20's range:


Benjamin Kindel (RW/C)​

  • Team: Calgary Hitmen (WHL)
  • Height/Weight: 5'10", 180 lbs | Shoots: Right
What Makes Him Good:

Kindel is a highly productive forward with excellent offensive instincts. He's a smart playmaker who sees the ice well and can make accurate passes, but also has a quick, dangerous shot. He's versatile enough to play center or wing, plays with a high motor and compete level, and works hard in all three zones. His quick skating helps him generate offense.

Areas to Improve:

He's a bit undersized, so he needs to get stronger to handle the physical demands of the NHL. He also needs to refine his shot for more consistent accuracy and improve puck management to reduce turnovers.

NHL Outlook: Projects as a skilled middle-six (2nd/3rd line) forward who can contribute on the power play and play a solid two-way game.


Jack Nesbitt (C)​

  • Team: Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
  • Height/Weight: 6'4", 185-205 lbs | Shoots: Left
What Makes Him Good:

Nesbitt has excellent size and a strong frame for a center, with room to add more strength. He's known for his high hockey IQ and being very reliable in a two-way role, always seeming to be in the right place. His offensive game grew significantly in his draft year, especially around the net with tips and rebounds. He's physical, competitive, and can play in all situations.

Areas to Improve:

His biggest area for improvement is his skating speed, particularly his first-step quickness and top-end speed, which is common for larger players but crucial for the NHL. He's more solid than flashy offensively.

NHL Outlook: Projects as a middle-six (2nd/3rd line) NHL center, likely a power forward type who excels in a responsible, two-way role.


Sascha Boumedienne (D)​

  • Team: Boston University (NCAA)
  • Height/Weight: 6'2", 183 lbs | Shoots: Left
What Makes Him Good:

Boumedienne's elite skating (speed, agility, edge work) is his standout trait, making him a fantastic puck-mover and transition defenseman. He's confident at carrying the puck up ice and making accurate passes. He has good offensive instincts from the blue line, with a quick shot and strong vision, showing his potential as a power-play quarterback.

Areas to Improve:

His main focus needs to be on his defensive consistency and decision-making, as he can be prone to turnovers or risky plays under pressure. He also needs to add strength and improve his physicality in board battles and net-front coverage.

NHL Outlook: Projects as a second-pairing offensive defenseman who can run a power play, but needs to round out his defensive game to be a consistent NHL regular.


Bill Zonnon (LW/C)​

  • Team: Blainville-Boisbriand Armada (QMJHL)
  • Height/Weight: 6'2", 190 lbs | Shoots: Left
What Makes Him Good:

Zonnon is a power forward with a strong frame who really "flipped a switch" in the back half of his draft year. He uses his size effectively to win puck battles, get to the net, and be strong on the forecheck. He plays a high-energy, competitive two-way game and has shown significant improvement in his offensive skill and playmaking, including strong passing. He's versatile, able to play both wing and center.

Areas to Improve:

While improved, his skating mechanics could still use refinement for better explosiveness. He needs to improve his shot selection and consistency in the defensive zone. Some consistency in his shift-to-shift intensity can also be developed.

NHL Outlook: Projects as a middle-six (2nd/3rd line) power forward who can contribute offensively, drive play, and bring a physical, tenacious element to a lineup. He has the potential to be a very valuable, well-rounded forward.


Blake Fiddler (Defenseman)​

  • Team: Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)
  • Height/Weight: 6'4", 209 lbs | Shoots: Right
What Makes Him Good:

Fiddler is a big, right-shot defenseman with impressive mobility and skating for his size. He's praised for his defensive game, including stifling rushes, strong gap control, and physicality in front of the net. He's reliable at moving the puck and transitioning play. His high hockey IQ and defensive instincts are key assets. He's also shown leadership, captaining Team USA at the Hlinka Gretzky Cup.

Areas to Improve:

While he shows flashes, his offensive game isn't dominant, and he needs to improve his consistency in puck handling and decision-making under pressure. His skating explosiveness could still get better to consistently handle NHL forwards.

NHL Outlook: Projects as a top-four, two-way defenseman, likely excelling in a shutdown role. His size, skating, and defensive reliability are highly valued by NHL teams, especially as a right-shot D.

I wouldn't trade future picks for picks in this draft. Not worth it. Combining 2nds from this years draft to move up? Maybe but only if a pick is up and a guy they love is there. I don't think you are getting any top 6 players or top 2 pair D in this draft once you get to 20 or something.
 
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I wouldn't trade future picks for picks in this draft. Not worth it. Combining 2nds from this years draft to move up? Maybe but only if a pick is up and a guy they love is there. I don't think you are getting any top 6 players or top 2 pair D in this draft once you get to 20 or something.

Here's the thing TOR 1st next year is likely where you'd be picking with this pick. The FLA pick isn't for another year and unless they suddenly fall apart, its going to be late 1st. It all depends on how you feel about upcoming drafts.

As for the bolded, the odds of getting that are low. If you look over the last 8-10 years, most late 1st rounders that do make it are usually what these guys project to be. Here is why each of these guys interest me:

Kindel - Went off for 35G & 99P in his 2nd WHL season. This was good for 7th in the league. The Bruins lack offensive talent in the prospect pool. Kindel has a good hockey IQ and plays a two-way game.

Nesbitt - You can't teach size and at 6'4 Nesbitt is a monster. He plays a good two-way game and can play with a physical edge. His got decent offensive numbers his 2nd season in the OHL and has a very projectable frame

Boumedienne - he's said to have elite skating and if true that's HUGE. We're seeing more and more how important skating is, especially on the backend. The Bruins defensive pipeline is underwhelming and with Lindholm, Zadorov & Lohrei in the mix, Boumedienne can develop nicely at BU and then up to PRO if needed.

Fiddler - The Bruins have no depth at RHD. Fiddler gives you size and a two-way game on the blueline. He's the son of former NHL Vernon Fiddler, so he has good pedigree. He's a Brandon Carlo type but more physical from what I've read.
 
Here's the thing TOR 1st next year is likely where you'd be picking with this pick. The FLA pick isn't for another year and unless they suddenly fall apart, its going to be late 1st. It all depends on how you feel about upcoming drafts.

As for the bolded, the odds of getting that are low. If you look over the last 8-10 years, most late 1st rounders that do make it are usually what these guys project to be. Here is why each of these guys interest me:

Kindel - Went off for 35G & 99P in his 2nd WHL season. This was good for 7th in the league. The Bruins lack offensive talent in the prospect pool. Kindel has a good hockey IQ and plays a two-way game.

Nesbitt - You can't teach size and at 6'4 Nesbitt is a monster. He plays a good two-way game and can play with a physical edge. His got decent offensive numbers his 2nd season in the OHL and has a very projectable frame

Boumedienne - he's said to have elite skating and if true that's HUGE. We're seeing more and more how important skating is, especially on the backend. The Bruins defensive pipeline is underwhelming and with Lindholm, Zadorov & Lohrei in the mix, Boumedienne can develop nicely at BU and then up to PRO if needed.

Fiddler - The Bruins have no depth at RHD. Fiddler gives you size and a two-way game on the blueline. He's the son of former NHL Vernon Fiddler, so he has good pedigree. He's a Brandon Carlo type but more physical from what I've read.
Boumedienne had a very disappointing season and his stock has dropped. I don't think Fiddler will have an offensive game at the next level. I'd be more into trading away a 2nd rd pick this year for a 2nd in next year's draft + something else. I'd also rather pick someone in the 1st next year with TOR's pick than someone in this draft. Sure, taking someone this year might mean 1 year closer to making it, but I just don't trust this draft at this point to want to move up.
 
This is EXACTLY how I feel. These Florida wins are much easier to handle when he is contributing so much. He’s no average 3rd liner. He’s been awesome and I love him. Screw his team.

Edit wrong thread.

For this thread. I am so excited about what will be on the board when we pick. I’m a tad concerned that we will go off board but not overly concerned like many. Here are most of the guys I could get on board with

Schaeffer
Misa
Frondell
Desnoyers
Hagens
Martone
Martin
Eklund
O’Brien
Atchieson
Mrtka
McQueen
If they take anyone that’s not on your list I’m switching teams.
 
Ask Dom for his analysis of the player.
In previous posts, he mentioned he would take O'Brien over Martin and I seem to recall he said O'Brien was the best pure playmaker in this draft.
As far as taking him over Martone and Desnoyers, we will not have to worry about that as both of these players will be gone before 7.
IMO, if Hagens and O'Brien are both available, you take Hagens all day long.
Here are some other stats to consider:
O'Brien is 6'2 182 lbs according to the measurements taken at the combine.
He was drafted 8th overall in his OHL draft year and weighed 150 pounds.
The major flaw in his game right now is the ability to win faceoffs, which he is working on this summer and is an easy fix with repetition.
OHL stats
GP = 162
Goals = 45
Assists = 127
TP = 172
Hagens is legit looking like a possible option which seems crazy to me.
 
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Who are they going to be better than in the East? Obviously need to wait until rosters but they need a lot of help.
Pittsburgh and Philly for sure. Philly still sucks and Pittsburgh just continues to get older. Probably Buffalo since it sounds like the they're going to have to ship out a couple of guys (Byram, Peterka)

I don't think it takes much to get them past those 3 teams.
 
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