NHL 2025 DRAFT - Bruins pick 7th III

[GordonHowe]

If we stand pat we get a very good player

Don't get cute Donnie.

 

[Oates2Neely]

i've heard he's very unlikely to get past 4. some teams apparently have him 2nd on their list.
couple of scouts i talked to last week also think he's the 2nd best guy in this draft. agree
or disagree, that's just the chatter out there. my personal feeling is chicago is gonna look
long and hard at him and frondell (and probably martone), and pick one. and if he's there
at 4, utah needs a 2C with size and grit and all that.

I think Desnoyers is the guy everyone at the top of the draft is going to regret not taking 5 years from now

 

[goldenblack]

be so funny to get the French Canadian star and then beat the habs with him. Again.

 

[LJReborn]

Don't get cute Donnie.

Can we at least let him "mess up" because we find fault with said pick?

 

[GordonHowe]

Can we at least let him "mess up" because we find fault with said pick?

Go for it.

Too smart for his own good. Don Sweeney's Disease.

 

[DaBroons]

I love this thread, which proves my point that this draft is totally wide open. I agree with Dan that this is going to be great fun on draft night.

I'll say this again, Desnoyers will play in the league for 15 years and be an excellent centerman, who plays a 200-foot game. But, IMHO, he WON'T be a number 1 center. High floor, more limited ceiling. His Memorial Cup poor showing isn't deterring teams at all.

Teams covet him because of that high floor; he's in the top 3 as far as probability of being what he looks to be. Teams that have a #1 center would be justified to pick him. He'd be an excellent choice.

If you think that Lindholm will be good enough to center Pasta and Geekie (he was great with Johnny Hockey and Tkaczuk), then yes, hope we get him.

But to paraphrase Obi-won-Kenobi, "He's not the drone we're looking for."

The other player that interests me in terms of where he's picked is Eklund. Most of the "draft experts" think that he's not a top 7 pick, more in the 10-12 range, IIRC. But it only takes one. Again, I think he's a high floor player, which interests teams to pick him higher than he's ranked.

 

[Gordoff]

be so funny to get the French Canadian star and then beat the habs with him. Again.

Difference is that Bergy didn't like or want to play for the Habs. Maybe the Nordiques (if they were still there) would've been fine for him sine IIRC he grew up in Quebec city?

 

[weaponomega]

I think it's fair value, but I like the idea of including a player instead of Toronto's 1st. Alan Ryan suggested Lohrei. 7th overall, Stl 2nd and Lohrei for 2nd overall?

I love Misa. I would give up a lot to get him.

I wouldn't. I think trading up for unknowns is too risky and not worth the assets.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

The impact of dropping two spots in the lottery has been huge

Had the Bs stayed at 5 so many of the suggestions on this Board become doable ...packaging the 5th plus assets to move up for Misa becomes more attractive to SJ ....trading for Nescas becomes an easier call for Colorado.....staying put and drafting the best player available-knowing there will be at least two top choices

Instead at 7 the Bs are in a good position but can't control much of what happens - who they draft or what trade they might make becomes much more dependent on what the six teams in front of them decide to do

Curse the gods of the lottery and the implementation of the double lottery draw

As well as the final OT point they had to win for no purpose.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I think it's fair value, but I like the idea of including a player instead of Toronto's 1st. Alan Ryan suggested Lohrei. 7th overall, Stl 2nd and Lohrei for 2nd overall?

I love Misa. I would give up a lot to get him.

Absolutely if they would do this. For all the joking around here about age, Lohrei is already 24/25 years old and incompetent defensively and leveraging his size. A larger Krug, where Krug at least gave effort defensively.

 

[neelynugs]

Since you are there is Hagens the guy who is most likely standing if Martin or OBrien go top 6

frondell or martone i believe in that case. also know the penguins love martone and dubas
is gonna try to move up (if that rangers pick goes to the pens, will be interesting to see how
aggressive he could get).

 

[DKH]

frondell or martone i believe in that case. also know the penguins love martone and dubas
is gonna try to move up (if that rangers pick goes to the pens, will be interesting to see how
aggressive he could get).

per betting odds Martin at +160 is heavy favorite to go 4

That is wild

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Absolutely if they would do this. For all the joking around here about age, Lohrei is already 24/25 years old and incompetent defensively and leveraging his size. A larger Krug, where Krug at least gave effort defensively.

I like Lohrei a lot, but he's still got a long way to go to earn a comparison to Krug. Krug was tougher, better on offense, and better on defense

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I love this thread, which proves my point that this draft is totally wide open. I agree with Dan that this is going to be great fun on draft night.

I'll say this again, Desnoyers will play in the league for 15 years and be an excellent centerman, who plays a 200-foot game. But, IMHO, he WON'T be a number 1 center. High floor, more limited ceiling. His Memorial Cup poor showing isn't deterring teams at all.

Teams covet him because of that high floor; he's in the top 3 as far as probability of being what he looks to be. Teams that have a #1 center would be justified to pick him. He'd be an excellent choice.

If you think that Lindholm will be good enough to center Pasta and Geekie (he was great with Johnny Hockey and Tkaczuk), then yes, hope we get him.

But to paraphrase Obi-won-Kenobi, "He's not the drone we're looking for."

The other player that interests me in terms of where he's picked is Eklund. Most of the "draft experts" think that he's not a top 7 pick, more in the 10-12 range, IIRC. But it only takes one. Again, I think he's a high floor player, which interests teams to pick him higher than he's ranked.

In terms f Desnoyers which #1 center are we saying he won't be, the legit #1's who there are maybe 10-12 of in the NHL, or the #1 who centers a first line because he is the best center on his team? I think Desnoyers can be a guy who in his best years puts up 65-70 points and centers a teams first line, but yes is probably not in that true #1 center group

 

[Oates2Neely]

I love this thread, which proves my point that this draft is totally wide open. I agree with Dan that this is going to be great fun on draft night.

I'll say this again, Desnoyers will play in the league for 15 years and be an excellent centerman, who plays a 200-foot game. But, IMHO, he WON'T be a number 1 center. High floor, more limited ceiling. His Memorial Cup poor showing isn't deterring teams at all.

Teams covet him because of that high floor; he's in the top 3 as far as probability of being what he looks to be. Teams that have a #1 center would be justified to pick him. He'd be an excellent choice.

If you think that Lindholm will be good enough to center Pasta and Geekie (he was great with Johnny Hockey and Tkaczuk), then yes, hope we get him.

But to paraphrase Obi-won-Kenobi, "He's not the drone we're looking for."

The other player that interests me in terms of where he's picked is Eklund. Most of the "draft experts" think that he's not a top 7 pick, more in the 10-12 range, IIRC. But it only takes one. Again, I think he's a high floor player, which interests teams to pick him higher than he's ranked.

So who is the sure cut #1 center in this draft (assuming Misa goes 2 to SJ)?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I like Lohrei a lot, but he's still got a long way to go to earn a comparison to Krug. Krug was tougher, better on offense, and better on defense

I suppose that drives my point - I would gladly see Lohrei in a trade to move to a stronger pick.

 

[DaBroons]

So who is the sure cut #1 center in this draft (assuming Misa goes 2 to SJ)?

There isn't one, which is why I am so high on Misa.

Some say Frondell could be, whereas others say his ceiling is a #2. Some say Hagens is potentially a #1, but, although his ceiling is higher, his floor is lower. Same comments for Martin and JOB as for Hagens. The concern about JOB is that his scoring at even strength is low, and Martin could end on the wing. Heck, even Misa could end up on the wing in SJ.

And what about McQueen?

Martone could be a #1 winger, according to many.

Again, that's why this draft is so interesting.

 

[DaBroons]

In terms f Desnoyers which #1 center are we saying he won't be, the legit #1's who there are maybe 10-12 of in the NHL, or the #1 who centers a first line because he is the best center on his team? I think Desnoyers can be a guy who in his best years puts up 65-70 points and centers a teams first line, but yes is probably not in that true #1 center group

I understand your 2nd sentence, and that could be true, similar to what I what I think of Lindholm. Desnoyers could put that many with the right wingers. So could JOB, I think, b/c he's an awesome playmaker, but his numbers at even strength is a concern.

I'm not clear what you are saying in the first so I won't respond. If you clarify, I'll be happy to comment.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I understand your 2nd sentence, and that could be true, similar to what I what I think of Lindholm. Desnoyers could put that many with the right wingers. So could JOB, I think, b/c he's an awesome playmaker, but his numbers at even strength is a concern.

I'm not clear what you are saying in the first so I won't respond. If you clarify, I'll be happy to comment.

My point is mostly there aren't 32 #1 centers in the NHL, so they are in my opinion 15-20 teams that have someone who play on the first line, but aren't a #1 center

 

[Patdud]

Wow that jersey sock combo is awful

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I suppose that drives my point - I would gladly see Lohrei in a trade to move to a stronger pick.

I'm not not really sold there is a deal for a stronger pick. If I were going to move Lohrei, I'd rather move him in a deal for an NHL player.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I'm not not really sold there is a deal for a stronger pick. If I were going to move Lohrei, I'd rather move him in a deal for an NHL player.

If you move Lohrei, all else aside, you lose the only defenseman capable of running a competent power play on your roster.

 

[DaBroons]

My point is mostly there aren't 32 #1 centers in the NHL, so they are in my opinion 15-20 teams that have someone who play on the first line, but aren't a #1 center

That is very true.

 

[DKH]

I think Desnoyers is the guy everyone at the top of the draft is going to regret not taking 5 years from now

Same