NHL 2025 DRAFT - Bruins pick 7th III

[Gee Wally]

Please continue and please keep discussion to this draft.
Thanks.

 

[DominicT]

I’d love to see your top 10-15.

Besides taking care of two grandkids, I have a lot of things on my plate.

Coming up:

I have the OHL media/scout consensus top 10 to do.

I am currently working on the Bruins prospect rankings - 30 players to do.

Am also currently working on potential Bruins picks from round 1 to 7 - potentially 40 players to cover.

Finally, I am currently working on my OHL final draft rankings.

I hope you know where you can find it all. Usually @Gee Wally posts them all here if you don't.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I have an honest question for those who know better than I. It’s not a challenge or an argument, but something to help me better understand.

Macklin Celebrini draft year:
38 games, 32 goals, 64 points

Adam Fantilli:
36 games, 30 goals, 65 points

Owen Power (defenseman):
33 games, 3 goals, 32 points

James Hagens:
37 games, 11 goals, 37 points

These are the top picks out of the same league the last five years, all top five in the draft and how Hagens stacks up statistically.

I feel like I’m missing something. It’s not that he’s scored less, but it’s by how much that I don’t understand. How is Hagens in the same conversation as these other prospects?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I have an honest question for those who know better than I. It’s not a challenge or an argument, but something to help me better understand.

Macklin Celebrini draft year:
38 games, 32 goals, 64 points

Adam Fantilli:
36 games, 30 goals, 65 points

Owen Power (defenseman):
33 games, 3 goals, 32 points

James Hagens:
37 games, 11 goals, 37 points

These are the top picks out of the same league the last five years, all top five in the draft and how Hagens stacks up statistically.

I feel like I’m missing something. It’s not that he’s scored less, but it’s by how much that I don’t understand. How is Hagens in the same conversation as these other prospects?

No one is saying Hagens approaches the overall talent of Celebrini - that kid is insane.

Power and Fantilli played in a lesser league then Hagens.

A PPG in Hockey East at his age is pretty legit.

 

[UncleRico]

I pray that Utah takes brady Martin. That means the odds of one of hagens, frondell or desnoyers falls to us increases

 

[BamBamCam]

I have an honest question for those who know better than I. It’s not a challenge or an argument, but something to help me better understand.

Macklin Celebrini draft year:
38 games, 32 goals, 64 points

Adam Fantilli:
36 games, 30 goals, 65 points

Owen Power (defenseman):
33 games, 3 goals, 32 points

James Hagens:
37 games, 11 goals, 37 points

These are the top picks out of the same league the last five years, all top five in the draft and how Hagens stacks up statistically.

I feel like I’m missing something. It’s not that he’s scored less, but it’s by how much that I don’t understand. How is Hagens in the same conversation as these other prospects?

I think it just might be the America Media. First time in awhile that Hagens is the only sure American born player to be pick in the top 20. Plus the NCAA angle. Possibly shows how weak this draft class is. (IMO)

 

[The don godfather]

7th overall pick and fabian lysell for ep40 and Vancouver 15th overall pick. Whose in?

 

[Absurdity]

I have an honest question for those who know better than I. It’s not a challenge or an argument, but something to help me better understand.

Macklin Celebrini draft year:
38 games, 32 goals, 64 points

Adam Fantilli:
36 games, 30 goals, 65 points

Owen Power (defenseman):
33 games, 3 goals, 32 points

James Hagens:
37 games, 11 goals, 37 points

These are the top picks out of the same league the last five years, all top five in the draft and how Hagens stacks up statistically.

I feel like I’m missing something. It’s not that he’s scored less, but it’s by how much that I don’t understand. How is Hagens in the same conversation as these other prospects?

I think that's the biggest knock on him. He hasn't been as successful as Celebrini at BU or Smith at BC. With that said, he was a PPG player as a freshman and has talent.

Someone who I recommend everyone watch if they have time are Simon St-Laurent's scouting reports on this year's draft. I don't agree with everything he says, but his analysis on players' strengths, weaknesses, and footage to support his claims in my opinion do a lot better to give fans a better understanding on each potential draft pick instead of the usual 5 minute highlight reels.

Here's what he says about Hagens:

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

No one is saying Hagens approaches the overall talent of Celebrini - that kid is insane.

Power and Fantilli played in a lesser league then Hagens.

A PPG in Hockey East at his age is pretty legit.

See this is why I ask.

I don’t know the quality difference between the Big-10 and Hockey East. I would have thought they would have been ranked similarly high among their NCAA counterparts.

How would you rank the Conferences?

 

[PlayMakers]

Macklin Celebrini draft year:
38 games, 32 goals, 64 points

Adam Fantilli:
36 games, 30 goals, 65 points

Owen Power (defenseman):
33 games, 3 goals, 32 points

James Hagens:
37 games, 11 goals, 37 points

These are the top picks out of the same league the last five years, all top five in the draft and how Hagens stacks up statistically.

I feel like I’m missing something. It’s not that he’s scored less, but it’s by how much that I don’t understand. How is Hagens in the same conversation as these other prospects?

I agree, that's been my question with Hagens. For a guy whose main asset is skill, his 37 points is disappointing. Will Smith put up 70 as a freshman. Leonard put up 60 as a freshman. And Hagens is a 2006.

It's why I'm not sold on a clear skill gap between the 3rd pick and the 7-9 picks.

 

[lopey]

7th overall pick and fabian lysell for ep40 and Vancouver 15th overall pick. Whose in?

Don you really want that EP. He is a headache

 

[PlayMakers]

I think it just might be the America Media. First time in awhile that Hagens is the only sure American born player to be pick in the top 20. Plus the NCAA angle. Possibly shows how weak this draft class is. (IMO)

It hasn't been that long, Will Smith was taken 4th overall in 2023.

 

[pucksindeep92]

7th overall pick and fabian lysell for ep40 and Vancouver 15th overall pick. Whose in?

You’re going to need to add to that one bud

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

See this is why I ask.

I don’t know the quality difference between the Big-10 and Hockey East. I would have thought they would have been ranked similarly high among their NCAA counterparts.

How would you rank the Conferences?

Hockey East is the best and hardest development league there is - sure it’s an opinion but it’s not really a controversial one given the depth of talent in that league.

Hagens also played with two puck dominant older players in Perrault and Leonard. Just counting points doesn’t do him justice.

 

[The don godfather]

Don you really want that EP. He is a headache

Just trying to protect the draft bust scenario and not waste pasta years.

 

[BamBamCam]

It hasn't been that long, Will Smith was taken 4th overall in 2023.

Sorry I meant that he is the only American prospect to be rated in the top 20 compared to other years when there was more than 1

 

[Kegs]

Besides taking care of two grandkids, I have a lot of things on my plate.

Coming up:

I have the OHL media/scout consensus top 10 to do.

I am currently working on the Bruins prospect rankings - 30 players to do.

Am also currently working on potential Bruins picks from round 1 to 7 - potentially 40 players to cover.

Finally, I am currently working on my OHL final draft rankings.

I hope you know where you can find it all. Usually @Gee Wally posts them all here if you don't.

We appreciate you Dom. Thanks.

 

[DaBroons]

I pray that Utah takes brady Martin. That means the odds of one of hagens, frondell or desnoyers falls to us increases

I read yesterday that Chicago is thinking about either Frondell or Desnoyers in the 3rd OA slot. I guess they want a 2nd-line center behind Bedard.

 

[Boston Bandit]

It hasn't been that long, Will Smith was taken 4th overall in 2023.

He also slapped Chris Rock the prior year and that didn’t go over too well..

 

[Dr Quincy]

7th overall pick and fabian lysell for ep40 and Vancouver 15th overall pick. Whose in?

Not Vancouver.

Lysell's value is practically nothing at this point, certainly not worth 15 OV. You can debate whether or not 7th OV for EP straight up makes sense for either team, but it's a lot closer in value.

 

[The don godfather]

Not Vancouver.

Lysell's value is practically nothing at this point, certainly not worth 15 OV. You can debate whether or not 7th OV for EP straight up makes sense for either team, but it's a lot closer in value.

Trying to also fix Donny swing and miss in the 1st round with lysell . Another potential bust .

 

[bruinmann77]

We appreciate you Dom. Thanks.

Yes we do Dom can’t wait to see your potential mock Draft for the bruins hopefully it include a goalie

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[Montecristo]

1. Michael misa
2. Matthew schaefer
3. James hagens
4. Porter martone
5. Anton frondell
6. Caleb desnoyers
7. Kashawn aitcheson
8. Roger mcqueen
9. Logan hensler
10. Jake o brien
11. Brady martin
13. Victor eklund
14. Jackson smith
15. Cullen porter


Thats my big board for the top 15. I wouldnt be surprised if any of these names end up the best player from the draft. Makes the pick at 7 difficult, i also wouldnt be surprised if any of these players ended up being underwhelming

 

[bme44]

1. Michael misa
2. Matthew schaefer
3. James hagens
4. Porter martone
5. Anton frondell
6. Caleb desnoyers
7. Kashawn aitcheson
8. Roger mcqueen
9. Logan hensler
10. Jake o brien
11. Brady martin
13. Victor eklund
14. Jackson smith
15. Cullen porter


Thats my big board for the top 15. I wouldnt be surprised if any of these names end up the best player from the draft. Makes the pick at 7 difficult, i also wouldnt be surprised if any of these players ended up being underwhelming

I sure hope some team takes Martin and Desnoyers drops to the Bruins