Toews2Bickell
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a guy that hasn't played a full 82 games in 6 years and has eclipsed a ppg season once....why is he even being discussed for this pick...go after Marner if you want a win now guy
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Kaners PPGs
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Vancouver didn't trade Boeser because his market was so bad so.......
At this rate Bedard might be a semi retired player-coach in his mid 40’s before we’re even sniffing our first playoff run. LOL
Patience! …it’s gonna be well worth the wait if it’s DONE RIGHT(aka not forced/rushed). Don’t make a splash move just for the sake of making a splash move. Just trust the process and relax.
Patience! …it’s gonna be well worth the wait if it’s DONE RIGHT(aka not forced/rushed). Don’t make a splash move just for the sake of making a splash move. Just trust the process and relax.
MicronMega
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I wouldn't be against a cheap Anthony Manta reclamation project. He played well under Blashill in Detroit.
Grab Mantha, Duchene and Nelson all on 1-2 year deals at big money than market value.
Duchene-Bedard-Mantha/Moore
TT-Nazar-Mikhyev
Dickenson-Nelson-Bertuzzi
Foligno-Veleno-Slaggert
Reichel
Or pass on Mantha and slot Moore with Bedard and Duchene.
Grab Mantha, Duchene and Nelson all on 1-2 year deals at big money than market value.
Duchene-Bedard-Mantha/Moore
TT-Nazar-Mikhyev
Dickenson-Nelson-Bertuzzi
Foligno-Veleno-Slaggert
Reichel
Or pass on Mantha and slot Moore with Bedard and Duchene.
I have a fun blockbuster idea. It's probably a pie-in-the-sky idea. Let me preface this by saying this is the bones of the proposal, and certainly not what the entire package could look like from both sides. There's been some chatter the Isles could be willing to move down, the Sharks want Schaefer, and the obvious fit that Hagens is a Long Island kid.
We've also seen rumors such as the Blackhawks being interested in a blockbuster with Buffalo that would include Byram and Peterka. I don't know how much I trust that particular source.
The Islanders have sort of flat-lined the past couple years. They are basically an average team of the past couple years that just had a #1 pick fall into their lap.
So let's get to it: it's obvious the Blackhawks need a legitimate star-caliber forward to play with Bedard. They need to get him some help and make the game fun for him again. We could draft a forward at #3, but it will be a minimum of a year (or final eight games of this year) until Bedard and said player touch the ice together. I don't want to wait any longer.
Barzal is a target that has been discussed. I would not trade #3 for Barzal straight up. However, Noah Dobson is a RFA. He's very good. Would it make any sense for the Blackhawks to package the 3OA pick in addition to a defensive prospect like Korchinski or Allan to get the conversations started to get BOTH Barzal and Dobson? In theory, the Islanders could hold onto the #1 pick, also land #3, and replace a very good forward and a very good defenseman with Schaefer (#1), Hagens (#3), and then potentially a secondary asset like Allan or Korchinski. This would give NYI a chance to sort of re-set the clock a little bit. Dobson and Barzal are in their primes, respectively, but you potentially extend your window once you do become good if Schaefer and Hagens become stars. The crux of it is that Barzal for #3 is a reach, but maybe including some D we feel expendable while adding Dobson to the fold would balance things out a bit. This would also obviously hinge on a Dobson extension. Before I get flamed for the idea, it's just to get the conversation started. Lou isn't in charge anymore, but this is an organization that also traded a prime Devon Toews for two 2nds.
Barzal-Bedard as the Vancouver-guys connection and a D core moving forward of Dobson, Vlasic, Levshunov, and Rinzel sounds pretty filthy. A man can dream.
We've also seen rumors such as the Blackhawks being interested in a blockbuster with Buffalo that would include Byram and Peterka. I don't know how much I trust that particular source.
The Islanders have sort of flat-lined the past couple years. They are basically an average team of the past couple years that just had a #1 pick fall into their lap.
So let's get to it: it's obvious the Blackhawks need a legitimate star-caliber forward to play with Bedard. They need to get him some help and make the game fun for him again. We could draft a forward at #3, but it will be a minimum of a year (or final eight games of this year) until Bedard and said player touch the ice together. I don't want to wait any longer.
Barzal is a target that has been discussed. I would not trade #3 for Barzal straight up. However, Noah Dobson is a RFA. He's very good. Would it make any sense for the Blackhawks to package the 3OA pick in addition to a defensive prospect like Korchinski or Allan to get the conversations started to get BOTH Barzal and Dobson? In theory, the Islanders could hold onto the #1 pick, also land #3, and replace a very good forward and a very good defenseman with Schaefer (#1), Hagens (#3), and then potentially a secondary asset like Allan or Korchinski. This would give NYI a chance to sort of re-set the clock a little bit. Dobson and Barzal are in their primes, respectively, but you potentially extend your window once you do become good if Schaefer and Hagens become stars. The crux of it is that Barzal for #3 is a reach, but maybe including some D we feel expendable while adding Dobson to the fold would balance things out a bit. This would also obviously hinge on a Dobson extension. Before I get flamed for the idea, it's just to get the conversation started. Lou isn't in charge anymore, but this is an organization that also traded a prime Devon Toews for two 2nds.
Barzal-Bedard as the Vancouver-guys connection and a D core moving forward of Dobson, Vlasic, Levshunov, and Rinzel sounds pretty filthy. A man can dream.
MicronMega
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What about something around Kreider, K Miller and 12th OA for 25th OA and KK
Hawks absorb a big contract, get a solid LHD and move up in the draft
Rangers get cap space, slide down in the draft and get a solid offensive D on an ELC
Rangers maybe add?
Hawks absorb a big contract, get a solid LHD and move up in the draft
Rangers get cap space, slide down in the draft and get a solid offensive D on an ELC
Rangers maybe add?
Kevin Musto
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Seems awful for the Rangers
They downgrade 12 to 25
and they downgrade Miller to Korchinski
all to move a contract that only has 2 years left?
featherhawk
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mantha is toast, not something that I would be on board with. Blashill or not this is a firm no from my end.
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Not sure Korchinski has shown enough yet to be throwing weight around in a trade proposal
MicronMega
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What about removing KK and Miller.
Just Kreider and 12 for 25th and/or Reichel/Kurashev
Toews2Bickell
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DK has the Marner odds up...
Top 5 are Vegas +650, TOR +650, LA +650, UTA +800 and CHI +800
How does Vegas have any money lol
Top 5 are Vegas +650, TOR +650, LA +650, UTA +800 and CHI +800
How does Vegas have any money lol
Kevin Musto
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They’re trading us their depth players for space
ColbyChaos
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Their gm runs their team like they are playing a video game. They have shown in the past they have no qualms with trading people if a better option was available, loyalty be damned
Yea ironically enough if he had shown enough no one would be throwing his name around in trade proposals
Callidusblackhawk
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Taking a quick look at Capwages and Karlsson sticks out as the guy they would probably look to move to make room for Marner. They'd then have like 2-4 million left to sign 4 forwards.They’re trading us their depth players for space
Not sure how he's viewed around the league but his stat line wasn't very inspiring last season. He has M-NTC so he might not be an option for the Hawks. Everyone on that team with a cap hit above 3.5M has some sort of M-NTC lol.
TheFridge
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He's got a 10-team no-trade list. I can think of 10 other places I'd rather not be than CHI around the league. We'd be taking him as a cap dump, so 2026 2nd round pick + Karlsson for future considerations sounds about right.
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SavBigMoneyAtBedards
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Putt Pirate
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Chris Johnston mentioned on his show that Chicago and Carolina are 2 teams he expects to make some of the biggest offers for Marner money wise.
Kevin Musto
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Didn't Scott Powers already say the Hawks are out on Marner?
DisgruntledHawkFan
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It's all white noise until it isn't. I never understand why some of you take media speak so seriously.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Marner loves playing in Toronto and he wanted to be a Leaf for life. Talk isn't even cheap it's free.
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