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Toews2Bickell said:
Good point about the floor for a return being the likely OS compensation
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Yes the floor is OS sheet compensation BUT for playoff teams as no non-playoff level team is offersheeting Peterka and giving up a top 10, top 40, and top 70 pick for him. Someone like the LA Kings or Minnesota (they'ld have to reacquire their 2nd) are the type of team that is way more likely to offersheet Peterka than a bottom feeder like the Hawks.
 
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The people with desire to trade this year... or next year's pick are all constantly impatient fans who want the team to have been better and not tanking last year even. Its just not being on page with a rebuild that should be seeking 3-4 high end talents through the draft, then consider trading or ufa adding after you feel you have that
 
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I think Buffalo wouldn’t want 2026 first especially with top 5 protection they are done with adding picks at this point. Byram also might be out the door so Korch could be a fit but with a pretty big add, I could see them probably asking for Boisvert instead of a pick as well
 
ChicagoHockeyFan said:
I think Buffalo wouldn’t want 2026 first especially with top 5 protection they are done with adding picks at this point. Byram also might be out the door so Korch could be a fit but with a pretty big add, I could see them probably asking for Boisvert instead of a pick as well
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Korch is not fit for what Sabres want

They already have Power (Who's D game is still major work in progress) and Dahlin for PP as well

One of the issues with Byram is that he wants bigger role but offensively he is behind those two in Buffalo
 
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ChicagoHockeyFan said:
I think Buffalo wouldn’t want 2026 first especially with top 5 protection they are done with adding picks at this point. Byram also might be out the door so Korch could be a fit but with a pretty big add, I could see them probably asking for Boisvert instead of a pick as well
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I would trade Korchinski + Boisvert for Peterka (sign + trade), no problem
 
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Blackhawkswincup said:
Korch is not fit for what Sabres want

They already have Power (Who's D game is still major work in progress) and Dahlin for PP as well

One of the issues with Byram is that he wants bigger role but offensively he is behind those two in Buffalo
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Korchinski is not at Byram’s level yet and would be happy to just play in NHL at this point. Power play both sides so Korch could have path to second pair LD and second PP time. Not his best fit but it could work
 
ClydeLee said:
The people with desire to trade this year... or next year's pick are all constantly impatient fans who want the team to have been better and not tanking last year even. Its just not being on page with a rebuild that should be seeking 3-4 high end talents through the draft, then consider trading or ufa adding after you feel you have that
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I don’t think people truly understand how long a rebuild takes. You need multiple homegrown difference makers. Hawks were fortunate to get Bedard.

I think AFTER the 26 draft you can start to consider moving picks/prospects for proven guys.

I’m blown away seeing people suggesting 3rd overall for Barzal or similar.
 
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HawksDub89 said:
I don’t think people truly understand how long a rebuild takes. You need multiple homegrown difference makers. Hawks were fortunate to get Bedard.

I think AFTER the 26 draft you can start to consider moving picks/prospects for proven guys.

I’m blown away seeing people suggesting 3rd overall for Barzal or similar.
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last thing anyone should want to see is them spend multiple years on this teardown but they don't walk away with the elite talent needed to be a real contender to make this all worth it...not trying to see them just be a playoff team that gets bounced early year after year tbh, if that means 5 years of them being trash fine but get the blue chip talent in the process
 
ColbyChaos said:
How about we just settle on not trading our 2026 first rounder or a top prospect since by large that is a dumb decision considering how high that will be
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imagine if they tore it to the studs to get halfway then trade some of their best future assets for players like Barzal and JJ Peterka...but 100 point Marner that would cost nothing but cap space is off the table lol
 
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Toews2Bickell said:
imagine if they tore it to the studs to get halfway then start trading some of their best future assets for players like Barzal and JJ Peterka...but 100 point Marner that would cost nothing but cap space is off the table lol
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What do you mean players like Peterka? The guy is an established 60 point player, you hope and pray Boisvert ever becomes that. It is certainly no guarantee.

And Korchinski is quickly becoming the most expendable D man we have. For a 23 year old forward likely to get better still? Davidson better think long and hard about it, because if either of those guys busts or even disappoints, not making that trade looks horrible in hindsight.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
What do you mean players like Peterka? The guy is an established 60 point player, you hope and pray Boisvert ever becomes that. It is certainly no guarantee.

And Korchinski is quickly becoming the most expendable D man we have. For a 23 year old forward likely to get better still? Davidson better think long and hard about it, because if either of those guys busts or even disappoints, not making that trade looks horrible in hindsight.
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What percent chance do you put it at that Boisvert ends up as good or better than Peterka?
 
Toews2Bickell said:
What percent chance do you put it at that Boisvert ends up as good or better than Peterka?
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20%. Not going to be like Musto saying Boisvert is straight up bad or anything.

But he’s still a flawed player, he may well top out at 50 points and iffy defensively. Peterka put up 68 last year and on pace for 70. That’s rare enough in the NHL.
 
Hattrick Kane said:
20%. Not going to be like Musto saying Boisvert is straight up bad or anything.

But he’s still a flawed player, he may well top out at 50 points and iffy defensively. Peterka put up 68 last year and on pace for 70. That’s rare enough in the NHL.
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20%? He went 16 picks higher than Peterka and seemed to maintain his value as a freshman this year, but lets just say his base case is a production level that is 10 points lower than Peterka on average, is that worth giving Buffalo a freeroll on a former 7th overall pick for an extra 10 points of production?
 
Toews2Bickell said:
20%? He went 16 picks higher than Peterka and seemed to maintain his value as a freshman this year, but lets just say his base case is a production level that is 10 points lower than Peterka on average, is that worth giving Buffalo a freeroll on a former 7th overall pick for an extra 10 points of production?
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I mean Peterka is also only 23. There’s a chance he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet either. 3 years in a row he’s increased his points total. It’s not like it’s screwing up the rebuild, he’d slot right in with the future.

I don’t care where these guys were drafted. Just because they were drafted high, doesn’t mean they are going to develop as such. Based on where these players are right now, Peterka has a far higher ceiling than either Korchinski or Boisvert, and together, it’s probably far off.

Tbf, I would prefer to throw one of the late firsts with one of them instead and see if it works.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
I mean Peterka is also only 23. There’s a chance he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet either. 3 years in a row he’s increased his points total. It’s not like it’s screwing up the rebuild, he’d slot right in with the future.

I don’t care where these guys were drafted. Just because they were drafted high, doesn’t mean they are going to develop as such. Based on where these players are right now, Peterka has a far higher ceiling than either Korchinski or Boisvert, and together, it’s probably far off.

Tbf, I would prefer to throw one of the late firsts with one of them instead and see if it works.
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Maybe give Korchinski chance to develop too. D-men always take longer and he is just 20. Boisvert is flawed but so is Peterka, his defensive play leaves a lot to be desired. Both can develop for sure but how much that is the hard question?
 
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Peterka is only 23 has established himself as a high quality NHL guy and probably projects better than any forward in Hawks org either than Bedard and Nazar. He fits exactly what we need no excuse to not go after him.
 
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What about a trade with Detroit

Tarasenko and Soderblom for Murphy and Reichel?

Dailyface-off had Tarasenko, Murphy and Reichel all on that list. This would suit both teams. Chicago gets a goal scorer and some size/brother of Arvid.
 
MicronMega said:
What about a trade with Detroit

Tarasenko and Soderblom for Murphy and Reichel?

Dailyface-off had Tarasenko, Murphy and Reichel all on that list. This would suit both teams. Chicago gets a goal scorer and some size/brother of Arvid.
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No need for Tarasenko, too old and we plenty of youngsters to give ice time
 
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