Don't forget that they have Kantserov coming over soon as well. I'm not saying that they should only draft 6'2"+ forwards going forward, but I frankly have a hard time justifying picking players that are 5'10" or shorter right now. Draft-eligble players like Kindel, Potter, and Schmidt would not be high on my board.
The Panthers are statistically the 9th tallest and 24th heaviest team in the NHL. The Leafs, who they beat, are #1 in both height and weight.
www.eliteprospects.com
Interesting, I didn’t realize that.
Everyone seemed to know the 🌩 were dirty with their big d, stars with a bit of the timely edge like Kucherov, and great 2way depth with edge like Paquette/Coleman/Goodrow typed and they had that style where the refs won't just keep calling penalties, that's how they go, so stay over the edge and you're good.
True. Which makes a guy like Desnoyers, who is apparently a leave it all on the ice type, appealing.
Don’t hate on Raleigh. Been here for years and definitely prefer it to Chicago.
Agreed. Not to mention it is so much easier to get around here. Do not miss big city traffic. I will admit though that Chicago traffic is way better than Boston’s.
Having access to Chicago is much better than living there full time. Not the same there as 25-50 years ago. I get it if you’re in your 20’s, but not with a family. I live in Western Michigan on the lakeshore. Raised my family here. Way better than Chicago, and better than the North Shore where I grew up. Got my city fix anytime I wanted, hit up the sports, museums, and performing arts with the family, and then back to the relative peace and quiet here. My boys live there now, but they likely eventually will leave too.
How much of Donato's time was spent with Bedard compared to Turbo and Bert?
donato: 420:55, 2.71 on ice gf/60
i know you think that, and i think you think that for the reasons i outlined above. if he's not nhl good at anything, then you have to explain why bert and turbo are nhl good at something but objectivley less efficient at scoring 5v5 and not significantly better at all strengths.
Because Turbo is a far better play maker with far better hands. Bert is a 20-20 guy who's really good around the net. Donato is a depth scoring winger who was really good at scoring some soft goals.
Teuvo is great and smart defensively, idk how you came to the statement hes not known for that. And yeah, Donato is known to be a bit of trouble defensively because he doesn't often overwork or battle.
exactly, Doug Gilmour and Theoren Fleury come to mind, both very tough despite small stature
Nobody ever got ruined from getting held back. There have been countless examples of prospects getting ruined by being rushed to the NHL. Make them prove it in Rockford.
and yet, even before donato's individually anomalous 24-25 season, he was on average a more efficient scorer than either at 5v5. considering that the relative all strengths gulf between him and turbo last season was only ~-0.5p/60 while the 5v5 was ~+0.3, that tells me that the difference between the two wasn't really that great, and that your evaluations are oriented towards aesthetics rather than outcome or results.
his season was a statistical anomaly. i fully well expect him to score less than 2.85p/60 next season. rather, if he resigned i would expect him to score somewhere between 1.9 and 2.5, about like i expect from bert and turbo. my point is that even taking away the career year, donato is comparable to bert and turbo in terms of points production efficiency. again: if donato is clearly worse than either of these two players, it has to be for some reason other than point production, and no one has offered me any other satisfying reason so far.
the point i was making is that neither of bert or turbo are known to be exceptional defensive forwards, and that donato is not known to be an exceptionally bad defensive forward. they are all pretty middling. i'd say turbo is probably considered the best, followed by donato and bert. the exact breakdown is neither here nor there, because what's important is i don't think there's anything to indicate that either bert or turbo's defensive contributions are so overaweing as to place them clearly head-and-shoulder above donato when considering their respective all around games.
to me, donato is a hard working middle-six forward who you can be confident will give you somewhere between 15-25 goals 40-60 points in 14 minutes a night. well worth the ~6.25% of the cap bert got, which would place him around a $5.96 mil cap hit this offseason. i do that for 3-5 years no problem. certainly far easier for me to offer him that than offer anyone else on the market $8+mil for 6+ years.
