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DisgruntledHawkFan said:
The sticker price on guys like Ehlers and Bennett this summer is going to melt brains. The only reason I'm against paying Marner is that it kills the Bedard took less so you'll take less narrative.
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As in you’re holding out hope that Bedard takes less so don’t make any big moves until he extends so they follow suit?

But yeah, Ehlers/Bennett/Boeser contracts are going to all be pretty bad I think.
 
Deputy McRizzy said:
As in you’re holding out hope that Bedard takes less so don’t make any big moves until he extends so they follow suit?

But yeah, Ehlers/Bennett/Boeser contracts are going to all be pretty bad I think.
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Yep. Build from within. Are you better than our best player? Tampa did it. Build a winning team first culture.

Bedard is going to set the Chicago cap. If you let an outsider do it Bedard's contract goes up. If Bedard isn't that guy we're not winning anything anyway.
 
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It has never happened where the cap has been announced to go up as much as it will in the following 3 seasons. So I think we're going to see guys get significantly more than we think that they're worth because the market it changing. You're increasing supply of cap space without adding any more players to the market.

The whole 'we can't pay you more than this guy' thing will die. It's going to be more of when you're up for your next contact against how valuable you are compared to other guys on the team.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Yep. Build from within. Are you better than our best player? Tampa did it. Build a winning team first culture.

Bedard is going to set the Chicago cap. If you let an outsider do it Bedard's contract goes up. If Bedard isn't that guy we're not winning anything anyway.
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Wasn't Eichel the top cap hit for Vegas when they brought him in and went on to win a Cup?
 
Hawkaholic said:
I dont see how that relates to the Hawks? One was a team that was a player or 2 from the cup, with their core in place. The other has almost nothing, and no where near the playoffs.
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Yes, it was obviously a different situation, it's just a counter to the point that you can't bring in someone paid more than your current best player which was the original point.

Then you add in the fact the point is to build a winning culture.... But then you overpay guys like Brodie, Alec Martinez, Foligno, and others double what they're worth? I don't buy it.
 
Deputy McRizzy said:
Yes, it was obviously a different situation, it's just a counter to the point that you can't bring in someone paid more than your current best player which was the original point.

Then you add in the fact the point is to build a winning culture.... But then you overpay guys like Brodie, Alec Martinez, Foligno, and others double what they're worth? I don't buy it.
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They had to get to the cap floor.
 
Hawkaholic said:
They had to get to the cap floor.
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Yes, figured that much was obvious.

I don't think overpaying old washed up vets to hit the cap floor who don't play hard and skip every practice is going to be all that conducive to this winning culture we're talking about building.
 
Deputy McRizzy said:
Yes, figured that much was obvious.

I don't think overpaying old washed up vets to hit the cap floor who don't play hard and skip every practice is going to be all that conducive to this winning culture we're talking about building.
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There's no reason to add those anymore, which is helped by the Weber deal for this seaosn... then next season Bedard will be a paid guy and you can set around trying to add to that roster with hopefully another high end pick
 
ClydeLee said:
There's no reason to add those anymore, which is helped by the Weber deal for this seaosn... then next season Bedard will be a paid guy and you can set around trying to add to that roster with hopefully another high end pick
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They have what, about $5M to spend to hit the floor next year I think I saw at some point?
 
CallMeShaft said:
Hossa missed a shit ton of practices. Missing practice doesn't mean they coasted.
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Hossa was a key cog and his main priority was to help bring this team a Cup, not mentor young players. Foligno is an overpaid veteran who is expected to do nothing but lead and be a good influence for the young guys. Not even remotely comparable roles.

You're telling me you think 37 year old Folgino busted his ass every single game and shift on the second worst team in the league?
 
Deputy McRizzy said:
Hossa was a key cog and his main priority was to help bring this team a Cup, not mentor young players. Foligno is an overpaid veteran who is expected to do nothing but lead and be a good influence for the young guys. Not even remotely comparable roles.

You're telling me you think 37 year old Folgino busted his ass every single game and shift on the second worst team in the league?
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I think he did what he could, and I think the young guys on the team love him.
 
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Zawaski has said that he feels very confident the Hawks and Davidson will be very aggressive this summer adding a top 6 forward at the least, maybe 2 if they can, I hope that doesn't mean replace the SJ contract with another SJ contract or trading unprotected 1sts
 
Toews2Bickell said:
Zawaski has said that he feels very confident the Hawks and Davidson will be very aggressive this summer adding a top 6 forward at the least, maybe 2 if they can, I hope that doesn't mean replace the SJ contract with another SJ contract or trading unprotected 1sts
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The rebuild is at stake here, really hope Davidson doesn't flub it up.
 
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Deputy McRizzy said:
Hossa was a key cog and his main priority was to help bring this team a Cup, not mentor young players. Foligno is an overpaid veteran who is expected to do nothing but lead and be a good influence for the young guys. Not even remotely comparable roles.

You're telling me you think 37 year old Folgino busted his ass every single game and shift on the second worst team in the league?
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I dont know what games you watched but effort and compete wasnt the problem with Folingno, its just that his age is starting to show. But he can still set an example with his play as he doesnt take shifts off, is physical and will drop the gloves to stick up for teammate.

Captain doesnt have to best player on a team, there is so much more to being captain. Hawks clearly respect him a great deal.

Hossa had the same effect on his team, players look around and see him busting his ass of to defend and backcheck. That set example for rest of the team.
 
BHawks77 said:
I dont know what games you watched but effort and compete wasnt the problem with Folingno, its just that his age is starting to show. But he can still set an example with his play as he doesnt take shifts off, is physical and will drop the gloves to stick up for teammate.

Captain doesnt have to best player on a team, there is so much more to being captain. Hawks clearly respect him a great deal.
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I’m not saying he coasted nightly, but there were absolutely games he was a passenger. It’s just expected of a guy his age.
 
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