2025 26 Roster…too Soon

[Muffinalt]

I didn't watch Cuylle as much this year compared to last year, but unless he really improved his skating, I wouldn't classify him as fast. Knies for example was always a much better skater for the big guys.

Yeah fair enough. Should've said he's not a bad skater.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Im completely flabbergasted that someone would pay even at the lower end of that range plus the compensation necessary. You might be right that someone will, but my goodness that’s a franchise ruining decision.

And to bring it back to Hawks, we’re really expected to be paying Colton Dach 6-9 million after his 45 points next year? I just can’t wrap my head around these numbers. I expect inflation due to cap increase but this is silly season. The conservative franchises will win if everyone’s just going to blow their wad on this level of talent.

And if someone offer-sheeted Dach at that level the Hawks would get their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round DP.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

I would give up Hawks 3rd overall pick + to get Matthew Knies to Chicago. I doubt Toronto wants to part with him but they can´t keep everyone there. Some rumors says that Knies agents wants around 9 million per year for their client services.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

I didn't realize Jason Robertsons is in the last year of his deal next season and then an RFA. Is there any scenario in which Dallas can't afford him? Probably not with the cap increase but man what an addition he would be.

 

[Drumman44]

I would give up Hawks 3rd overall pick + to get Matthew Knies to Chicago. I doubt Toronto wants to part with him but they can´t keep everyone there. Some rumors says that Knies agents wants around 9 million per year for their client services.

We almost got him for Fleury and Hagel

 

[featherhawk]

I didn't realize Jason Robertsons is in the last year of his deal next season and then an RFA. Is there any scenario in which Dallas can't afford him? Probably not with the cap increase but man what an addition he would be.

Dallas has an exodus of contracts so re-signing Robertson is likely to happen.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

Dallas has an exodus of contracts so re-signing Robertson is likely to happen.

Who is the odd man out then? These guys are already locked up.

Heiskanen 8.45M
Rantanen 12M
Hintz 8.45M
Johnston 8.4M
Oettinger 8.25M

Harley is an RFA in 2 years. Seguin still has 2 years after this season at 9.85M.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

We almost got him for Fleury and Hagel

They did? Bummer!

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Dylan Cozens made 7.1 million off a 68 point age 22 season with top of draft pedigree. The cap goes up 10% and contracts for middling youngsters goes up 30-40%?

To be clear I’m not arguing with you I’m arguing with this market if this Cuylle stuff has any legs to it. It’s Bryan Bickell but on Steroids.

The market is going to reset in an insane way this summer I believe. Sticker shock galore.

 

[ColbyChaos]

We almost got him for Fleury and Hagel

We likely don’t get Rinzel if that happened

 

[featherhawk]

Who is the odd man out then? These guys are already locked up.

Heiskanen 8.45M
Rantanen 12M
Hintz 8.45M
Johnston 8.4M
Oettinger 8.25M

Harley is an RFA in 2 years. Seguin still has 2 years after this season at 9.85M.

not sure what you mean by odd man out however as indicated they have a good number of expiring contracts, thus UFA and RFAs for next year:

UFA:
Benn
Ceci
Dadanov
Granlund
Duchene
Blackwell
Smith

RFA:
Bourque
Lundquist

With the amount of contracts expiring a Robertson deal will no doubt get done.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Dallas is fine for next year, their depth probably takes a hit (I doubt they could win a round with Robertson and Heiskanen on the shelf like this year) but they will have space to keep all their main guys. Perhaps a decision after 2025-26, but they're in their window right now so they'd be silly to do anything drastic.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

If the Hawks go into next season with Nazar as the second best offensive forward are you mad or feeling okay with it?

This would assume none of Marner, Ehlers, or Boeser are signed and Miss isn’t there at #3. Also no clear cut stud forward is traded for.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

If the Hawks go into next season with Nazar as the second best offensive forward are you mad or feeling okay with it?

This would assume none of Marner, Ehlers, or Boeser are signed and Miss isn’t there at #3. Also no clear cut stud forward is traded for.

That would be unacceptable, and I love Nazar.

At that point you have to overpay to bring in an older guy like Giroux, Nelson, or Duchene on a 1-2 year deal.

Next year should be a breakout type year for Bedard but it’s going to require some help from his linemates.

 

[x Tame Impala]

It's Marner or nothing if we're handing out a major UFA contract. BIG NO on Boeser and Ehlers. I'd be ok with a 1-2 year deal for any of these guys but I doubt that's realistic. Even if we offer someone like Giroux 2 x $9 or something.

Bedard will be better because the team around him will be a little bit better. We'll have to wait and see what our options are but I really hate the idea of lighting our cap space on fire to bring in a guy like Boeser

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If the Hawks go into next season with Nazar as the second best offensive forward are you mad or feeling okay with it?

This would assume none of Marner, Ehlers, or Boeser are signed and Miss isn’t there at #3. Also no clear cut stud forward is traded for.

Yeah UFA is not the root Davidson is going if it’s not Marner. I’ve been saying it and I’ll keep saying it, it’s why he went and took in Weber’s contract.

I’m also 95% sure that before the draft, Davidson is making a big trade for a young forward, and 100% sure they don’t have the leafs pick come the draft.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Yeah UFA is not the root Davidson is going if it’s not Marner. I’ve been saying it and I’ll keep saying it, it’s why he went and took in Weber’s contract.

I’m also 95% sure that before the draft, Davidson is making a big trade for a young forward, and 100% sure they don’t have the leafs pick come the draft.

Who are some names that you think could be the future Hawks?

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Who are some names that you think could be the future Hawks?

And that’s where the hard part comes. It wouldn’t seem there are a lot of names out there at this time. I’m obviously not in the inner circle to know these things, but there are guys always available for the right price.

I just look at the prospect pool knowing they can’t all be players, I’d happily dip into getting some help for the team.

I mentioned Lafreniere depending on how the Rangers feel, they’re in a very precarious spot. Peterka as well. Rossi sounds like he’s available but he’s another small guy we don’t need.

Or if you’re willing to take a flier on a less established player, I have some interest in Josh Doan. Whether he’s available or not is another story, but Utah is loaded at forward so you never know.

 

[Taze em]

If you sign Bedard to a longterm deal on July 1st then what's the rush in trading draft capital or prospects? If you don't sign Bedard July 1st then you're going to need to be a bit more aggressive for 25-26. It all depends on Connor. It all depends on this next contract, literally the future of the franchise depends on it and the level of aggressiveness (beyond a shot in the dark at Marner). Too much discussion about what all of us would do and not nearly enough discussion about who Bedard's agent is and what he's done with other clients in this situation.

Dahlin, McTavish, The Tkachuks. In general the Newport clients seem to go long and loyal. But I am so much more concerned about this than the draft it isnt even close in terms of future impact on the franchise.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I don't see Bedard going the Matthews route where he wants to make every single dollar possible by being more strategic with his contracts, but you never know...I would put 8yr 12-12.5m per on the table and see if he goes for it.

This also doesn't seem like the offseason to get super aggressive with trades or UFA signings, you have some excess capital in the TOR/FLA picks if a young top 6 potential forward is there to move it if a deal presents itself, but don't get crazy looking for one and potentially force the issue.

I will have no problem if they ride into next year with the same roster/coaching staff that they finished the season with and make all their picks in the current draft and mostly add rentals in UFA if they strike out on Marner.

This is the part of the rebuild where patience is required or you potentially stall it and end up like Buffalo, capped out and still a basement team in a few years.

 

[ChicagoHockeyFan]

Need to make a big forward splash, would be unacceptable to not add a top 2 line player this offseason. Something to motivate and encourage the team, cannot have another season like last 2.

 

[Taze em]

Bedard July 1st 100 Million for 8 years to kick off the 100th year of Hawks hockey.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Just overpay Bedard as long as it gets you 8 years. Who cares. If he busts the whole rebuild likely busts. The world where Bedard making $2 million extra is what holds Chicago back is likely pretty slim.

 

[Cashman]

I don't see Bedard going the Matthews route where he wants to make every single dollar possible by being more strategic with his contracts, but you never know...I would put 8yr 12-12.5m per on the table and see if he goes for it.

This also doesn't seem like the offseason to get super aggressive with trades or UFA signings, you have some excess capital in the TOR/FLA picks if a young top 6 potential forward is there to move it if a deal presents itself, but don't get crazy looking for one and potentially force the issue.

I will have no problem if they ride into next year with the same roster/coaching staff that they finished the season with and make all their picks in the current draft and mostly add rentals in UFA if they strike out on Marner.

This is the part of the rebuild where patience is required or you potentially stall it and end up like Buffalo, capped out and still a basement team in a few years.

You have to make some kind of trade. You have too many D-men.

 

[ello]

Need to make a big forward splash, would be unacceptable to not add a top 2 line player this offseason. Something to motivate and encourage the team, cannot have another season like last 2.

Exactly what was said last season and we added a top 6 forward in Teravainen who almost scored 60 points, a middle 6 guy in Bertuzzi and Donato scored 30 goals and 60 points yet we stilll sucked so bad.

Who we sign probably can come in and replace Donato's production since he's probably gone or at the very least not replicationg last year, but where does that leave us. I think our success largely hinges on Bedard and Nazar's development