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I think looking at the Sabres RFAs is the most possible chance to get a player that is
a) NHL ready
b) helping the team now
c) young enough to grow with the team

I don't think they will be looking for a major shakeup trading the higher paid players. I doubt they will look to send one of their D away.
They have to give Peterka, McLeod and Quinn new contracts.
Benson will need an extension 1 year later with Tuch.
Giving them Picks and ELC players could really be enough to get one of their RFA Wingers.
 
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Bubba88 said:
I think looking at the Sabres RFAs is the most possible chance to get a player that is
a) NHL ready
b) helping the team now
c) young enough to grow with the team

I don't think they will be looking for a major shakeup trading the higher paid players. I doubt they will look to send one of their D away.
They have to give Peterka, McLeod and Quinn new contracts.
Benson will need an extension 1 year later with Tuch.
Giving them Picks and ELC players could really be enough to get one of their RFA Wingers.
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I think Quinn especially is definitely available, but it's all going to be time locked, because they will try to go big game hunting with their premium assets. Once that settles, we can pick up what's left.

I think McLeod would be a nice player for us. JJ obviously, but he's the least available. Quinn is more like a reclamation project at this point. Tuch would be amazing but I doubt he's made available.
 
I just noticed that on Capwages, in their expected next contract tool, Wyatt Kaiser is either worth 6 X 5.5M or 3 X 3.2M for his next contract. Say what you want about that tool but I feel like it's pretty good about most guys.
 
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I just noticed that on Capwages, in their expected next contract tool, Wyatt Kaiser is either worth 6 X 5.5M or 3 X 3.2M for his next contract. Say what you want about that too but I feel like it's pretty good about most guys.
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5.5M at any term for Kaiser is a fireable offense.
 
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There seems to be a lot of coaches and GMs who think offer sheets are going to be thrown around this year. I’d love for the hawks to get in on it, but they have to keep their 2026 1st, which would limit them unfortunately.

The Rangers already have 85 million committed next year which is pretty shocking, leaving them vulnerable to offer sheets. Will Cuylle is the guy I see being targeted hard. I could easily somebody going to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd compensation trying to get him.
 
Muffinalt said:
I think Quinn especially is definitely available, but it's all going to be time locked, because they will try to go big game hunting with their premium assets. Once that settles, we can pick up what's left.

I think McLeod would be a nice player for us. JJ obviously, but he's the least available. Quinn is more like a reclamation project at this point. Tuch would be amazing but I doubt he's made available.
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Tuch would be a great addition
 
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Hull2Roenick2Kane said:
open question to everyone. Do the Blackhawks resign Crevier and how much/term do you think its going to be?
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His QO is 813k. I think the Hawks probably give him a 1 or 2-year deal at or around a million. He showed well this year, but with Rinzel and maybe Levshunov breaking camp with the team next year, it'll be tough to find playing time for him consistently. They'll want him around as a reliable depth D though.
 
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no one has benefitted more from the offer sheets last year than Will Cuylle. A middling prospect who played his first full season at 23 and scored 45 points and people all over the NhL are ready to risk it all? What am I missing. It’s like if Dach next year had Bertuzzi’s numbers from this year.
 
Taze em said:
no one has benefitted more from the offer sheets last year than Will Cuylle. A middling prospect who played his first full season at 23 and scored 45 points and people all over the NhL are ready to risk it all? What am I missing. It’s like if Dach next year had Bertuzzi’s numbers from this year.
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As it turns out, having a guy who is 6’3 who can put up 45 points is incredibly important in this league. The Hawks currently don’t have that. Per the the offer sheet compensation, You can offer someone 9 million dollars and only give up a first, second and third.

That’s not risking it all. If you expect to be a playoff team, a first round pick is 16th-32nd, a 50-50 shot of even being an NHL player, and the other picks even less. Minnesota gave up a full draft of picks for Jiricek and he is legit garbage.

Also, if Dach starts proving like that, it’s a home run and you lock him to an 8 year deal asap.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
As it turns out, having a guy who is 6’3 who can put up 45 points is incredibly important in this league. The Hawks currently don’t have that. Per the the offer sheet compensation, You can offer someone 9 million dollars and only give up a first, second and third.

That’s not risking it all. If you expect to be a playoff team, a first round pick is 16th-32nd, a 50-50 shot of even being an NHL player, and the other picks even less. Minnesota gave up a full draft of picks for Jiricek and he is legit garbage.

Also, if Dach starts proving like that, it’s a home run and you lock him to an 8 year deal asap.
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A 45 point scorer with a one year track record deserves 8-9 million?! It’s like Bryan Bickell on steroids.

To confirm you want to give up 9 million in cap space, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd for a 23 year old 45 point scorer?

I have to be misunderstanding.
 
Taze em said:
A 45 point scorer with a one year track record deserves 8-9 million?! It’s like Bryan Bickell on steroids.

To confirm you want to give up 9 million in cap space, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd for a 23 year old 45 point scorer?

I have to be misunderstanding.
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To confirm, I don’t want to give up our 2026 first period.

I’m telling you someone is going to throw that kind of money at Cuylle for the above reasons. And it can be 6.8-9.1 million in that compensation range, not just 9 million, it could be less.

But that’s how offer sheets work, you’re going to have to overpay if you want an actual chance at the player. So don’t hate the player, hate the game.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
To confirm, I don’t want to give up our 2026 first period.

I’m telling you someone is going to throw that kind of money at Cuylle for the above reasons. And it can be 6.8-9.1 million in that compensation range, not just 9 million, it could be less.

But that’s how offer sheets work, you’re going to have to overpay if you want an actual chance at the player. So don’t hate the player, hate the game.
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Im completely flabbergasted that someone would pay even at the lower end of that range plus the compensation necessary. You might be right that someone will, but my goodness that’s a franchise ruining decision.

And to bring it back to Hawks, we’re really expected to be paying Colton Dach 6-9 million after his 45 points next year? I just can’t wrap my head around these numbers. I expect inflation due to cap increase but this is silly season. The conservative franchises will win if everyone’s just going to blow their wad on this level of talent.
 
Taze em said:
Im completely flabbergasted that someone would pay even at the lower end of that range plus the compensation necessary. You might be right that someone will, but my goodness that’s a franchise ruining decision.

And to bring it back to Hawks, we’re really expected to be paying Colton Dach 6-9 million after his 45 points next year? I just can’t wrap my head around these numbers. I expect inflation due to cap increase but this is silly season. The conservative franchises will win if everyone’s just going to blow their wad on this level of talent.
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Get used to it man, this is what contracts are going to look like moving forward. 6 million is the new 4 million. If you’re 6’3+ and putting 45 points or above you’re getting the bag. They aren’t that common.
 
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Get used to it man, this is what contracts are going to look like moving forward. 6 million is the new 4 million. If you’re 6’3+ and putting 45 points or above you’re getting the bag. They aren’t that common.
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There were 166 45+ point scorers this year.
 
Dylan Cozens made 7.1 million off a 68 point age 22 season with top of draft pedigree. The cap goes up 10% and contracts for middling youngsters goes up 30-40%?

To be clear I’m not arguing with you I’m arguing with this market if this Cuylle stuff has any legs to it. It’s Bryan Bickell but on Steroids.
 
Taze em said:
A 45 point scorer with a one year track record deserves 8-9 million?! It’s like Bryan Bickell on steroids.

To confirm you want to give up 9 million in cap space, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd for a 23 year old 45 point scorer?

I have to be misunderstanding.
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I'm a huge fan of Cuylle and before the Rangers moved off of Trouba's money I had him circled as a the main offer-sheet target for us.

It's not the 45 points, he just set the franchise record for hits in the season, he's fast, very good on the boards/net front, has a nice shot and can score off tips a lot.

He's only 23, so there is a lot of potential for some more, and he's already a mid 6 - top 6 option as the complimentary 3rd player next to two skilled guys.

Of course not worth a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, but i'd pay 6-7M for him easy, and Rangers would match that instantly.

I think the problem though is that the offer sheet compensations are going to have to be adjusted to the cap increased AAVs because they're already not matching in value. Those Cuylle numbers are going to be the norm going forward for contracts, but the value in terms of assets remains the same, so the offer sheet compensation suddenly becomes unreasonable.

I think they will take care of it, but even as soon as this year already, the lacking behind could lessen the offer sheet possibilities. You're simply not going to want to send as many picks for a guy that's worth 2-3m less in AAV just a year before, but then the guy won't sign the offer sheet if he can get more in open negotiations.

This could effect Peterka's offer sheet situation for example, Vilardi, Knies and the other higher profile ones as well.
 
Muffinalt said:
It's not the 45 points, he just set the franchise record for hits in the season, he's fast, very good on the boards/net front, has a nice shot and can score off tips a lot.
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I didn't watch Cuylle as much this year compared to last year, but unless he really improved his skating, I wouldn't classify him as fast. Knies for example was always a much better skater for the big guys.
 
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