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2025 26 Roster…too Soon

With Marner
Marner - Bedard - ?
Bert - Nazar - Teravainen
Mikheyev - Dickenson - Moore/Slaggert
Foligno - Reichel - Veleno

Without Marner
? - Bedard - ?
Bert - Nazar - Teravainen
Mikheyev - Dickenson - Moore/Slaggert
Foligno - Reichel - Veleno

I feel like we have to sign at least 1 other player to play with Bedard. 2 if we dont get Marner.

Drouin could be a nice get, Benn, on a short expensive deal, Kane is always a dream but aint happening.
 
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Giovi said:
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Unless he's both healthy and good, I bet he gets waived/bought out if not already on LTIR. Hawks re-sign Soderblom (who just eked out a positive GSAE on the season) and start year with Knight/Soderblom with Commesso waiting in the wings (last year of ELC).
 
Saying Brossoit is a possibility next year might be more strategy to get Soderblom to re-sign for cheap than it is to think LB would actually win one of the two spots in goal. It's just a negotiating tactic.

A career backup goalie in his 30s that has not played for an entire season is not someone you are realistically penciling in to an NHL roster.
 
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CallMeShaft said:
He needs to cook in Rockford another year or two.

I'd imagine the plan is for Soderblom to be-resigned for a year or two and once he's out of the way, Commesso can become the backup.
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I think the ideal situation is this. Give Soderblom a qualifying offer and sign him for one more year. The interesting thing is Knight/Commesso/Soderblom can all be extended July 1. Has Knight shown enough to get a long term deal? He already makes $4.5m per which is alot. Soderblom played better this season and they both had almost identical numbers. Do you give Soderblom a qualifying offer or is he looking to try to start somewhere else given the improvement he had this season?

Knight for Chicago - .896 and a 3.18
Soderblom for Chicago - .898 and a 3.18

Brossoit in the mix and you got too many cooks in the kitchen. I figured Brossoit is a buyout candidate. Commesso will have played two full seasons in the AHL and maybe ready sooner than later to contribute. Or you trade him if you signing Knight long term. Lots of options.
 
OldScool said:
I think the ideal situation is this. Give Soderblom a qualifying offer and sign him for one more year. The interesting thing is Knight/Commesso/Soderblom can all be extended July 1. Has Knight shown enough to get a long term deal? He already makes $4.5m per which is alot. Soderblom played better this season and they both had almost identical numbers.

Knight for Chicago - .896 and a 3.18
Soderblom for Chicago - .898 and a 3.18

Brossoit in the mix and you got too many cooks in the kitchen. I figured Brossoit is a buyout candidate. Commesso will have played two full seasons in the AHL and maybe ready sooner than later to contribute. Or you trade him if you signing Knight long term. Lots of options.
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Think waiving Brossoit is the way to go. Let him play in Rockford, we've got the cap space to eat up all of his salary next season.

You are right, it makes more sense to wait on re-signing Knight. Maybe see how he's doing by December or January and go from there. His contract being as high as it is, despite him spending most of this season as a backup to Bob, makes it hard to know how much he's actually worth.
 
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CallMeShaft said:
Think waiving Brossoit is the way to go. Let him play in Rockford, we've got the cap space to eat up all of his salary next season.

You are right, it makes more sense to wait on re-signing Knight. Maybe see how he's doing by December or January and go from there. His contract being as high as it is, despite him spending most of this season as a backup to Bob, makes it hard to know how much he's actually worth.
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Issue is then he is making almost $3 million in Rockford instead of half that if you buy him out...Do you want to pay him $3M to play in Rockford?
 
Is there any concern about Lardis injury affecting his long-term ceiling and/or ability to compete for a roster spot at some point next year?
 
OldScool said:
Issue is then he is making almost $3 million in Rockford instead of half that if you buy him out...Do you want to pay him $3M to play in Rockford?
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No, but it's not my money. Danny might prefer a buyout and ultimately he's in charge.

If we're taking dollars out of the equation, we know with 100% certainty we won't be near the ceiling next year. Whether or not we pickup Marner or Kaprizov or whoever in the next year or two, I think management would probably like to not waste $760k the following season when we can just eat the entire contract now.
 
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If he wants to stay, then he has to compromise. I don’t mind upping the dollars a bit, but you can’t give him more than 4 years, preferably 3 though.
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Yeah sounds like he might take a 5 year deal if someone else offers him one. Outside of I Lou Lamoriello don’t see it happening.
 
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DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Bedard Turbo Foligno Dickinson Bertuzzi Reichel Nazar Veleno Mikheyev have spots locked up as of now. Kurashev is an RFA that I don't really want back. I'm expecting a Donato or better addition and a vet spare forward. That leaves two spots for a whole mess of kids.
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Crow said:
Yeah sounds like he might take a 5 year deal if someone else offers him one. Outside of I Lou Lamoriello don’t see it happening.
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Why let him leave? For Donato I can see base of 3 years at 4M per. The easy way to handle this is to make it worth his while: Make this an incentivised contract with individual milestones. Throw another $500K if the hawks make the playoffs as a team milestone etc.

For individual milestones how about something like this?

+$500K if you get 25 goals
+$1M if you get 30
+$2M if you get 35
+3M if you get 40
+4M if you get 50


This gives both sides something. It will also probably make him a leader in the locker room. If he turns out to be a perienial 30 goal scorer than he's probably is worth 5M per season and the Hawks should be willing to pay him that. If he pops 50 he's probably worth 8M.

If he shits in the bed you only pay him 4M.

Look the specifics can be changed, but this is a way for the Hawks to avoid the FA market and wind up overpaying someone (Boeser etc).

Look, I would love to get Marner, but thats probably unlikely. So who's else is out there? and at what price?

Keep Donato and see if he is really is just a late-bloomer. Does it not break your heart when you see someone like D-Cat playing for the Wangs and still doing well? Hagel? Even Strome? (cheap plug for KMusto).
 
Flahawkfan said:
Why let him leave? For Donato I can see base of 3 years at 4M per. The easy way to handle this is to make it worth his while: Make this an incentivised contract with individual milestones. Throw another $500K if the hawks make the playoffs as a team milestone etc.

For individual milestones how about something like this?

+$500K if you get 25 goals
+$1M if you get 30
+$2M if you get 35
+3M if you get 40
+4M if you get 50


This gives both sides something. It will also probably make him a leader in the locker room. If he turns out to be a perienial 30 goal scorer than he's probably is worth 5M per season and the Hawks should be willing to pay him that. If he pops 50 he's probably worth 8M.

If he shits in the bed you only pay him 4M.

Look the specifics can be changed, but this is a way for the Hawks to avoid the FA market and wind up overpaying someone (Boeser etc).

Look, I would love to get Marner, but thats probably unlikely. So who's else is out there? and at what price?

Keep Donato and see if he is really is just a late-bloomer. Does it not break your heart when you see someone like D-Cat playing for the Wangs and still doing well? Hagel? Even Strome? (cheap plug for KMusto).
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Can’t do that incentivized contract with Donato, only elcs and 35+ contracts can have incentives
 
CallMeShaft said:
Think waiving Brossoit is the way to go. Let him play in Rockford, we've got the cap space to eat up all of his salary next season.

You are right, it makes more sense to wait on re-signing Knight. Maybe see how he's doing by December or January and go from there. His contract being as high as it is, despite him spending most of this season as a backup to Bob, makes it hard to know how much he's actually worth.
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If the Hawks don't have room for Brossoit and he's healthy, they'll trade him for nothing before waiving him IMO. You can't just banish vets to the AHL. You don't want that rep as a GM/team. Now if Brossoit is healthy and playing terribly, that's a different story but prior to the injury he was a very solid NHL backup, no reason to think he wouldn't be solid again if he was healthy.
 
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If the Hawks don't have room for Brossoit and he's healthy, they'll trade him for nothing before waiving him IMO. You can't just banish vets to the AHL. You don't want that rep as a GM/team. Now if Brossoit is healthy and playing terribly, that's a different story but prior to the injury he was a very solid NHL backup, no reason to think he wouldn't be solid again if he was healthy.
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I'm sure they'd go looking for a trade partner. Not sure they'd get it though. Not without retaining salary at least, and we're already without one of our retention spot because of you know who.
 
CallMeShaft said:
I'm sure they'd go looking for a trade partner. Not sure they'd get it though. Not without retaining salary at least, and we're already without one of our retention spot because of you know who.
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I don't think they'd have to retain at all. Brossoit isn't overpaid. 3.3M for a good backup/maybe 1B guy isn't very pricey. The question is just his health at this point.
 
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