OT: 2024 Washington Commanders thread: change we can believe in!

[Ridley Simon]

He didn’t have great or even good or OK QB play…..he had dogshit.

You dislike the player….got it.

I dislike his age and his salary. Like I said, if they could get him for under 20m a season? And no high draft picks?

All IN

WR’s fall off faster than any position (perhaps RB), so…..

Do you want to give up 30m in cap space PLUS higher draft picks to get a disgruntled player on on the downside of his career?

The CCR i know, would NOT.

So what am I missing?

I like Tee Higgins a lot and will be happy if they pursue him but this team also needs speed. Higgins is more of a contested ball catcher, which he’s elite at and we could definitely use, but outside of Terry we really don’t have anyone that can run by guys. Dyami Brown, I guess, but not consistently.

So get someone that isn’t going to be 31. He’s not Darrell Green. His legs get hurt. He doesn’t have much time life with his “speed”, IMO.

Obv I could be wrong

 

[Ridley Simon]

I like Tee Higgins a lot and will be happy if they pursue him but this team also needs speed. Higgins is more of a contested ball catcher, which he’s elite at and we could definitely use, but outside of Terry we really don’t have anyone that can run by guys. Dyami Brown, I guess, but not consistently.

So get someone that isn’t going to be 31. He’s not Darrell Green. His legs get hurt. He doesn’t have much time left with his “speed”, IMO.

Obv I could be wrong

 

[kicksavedave]

He “was” the Cheetah. First thing athletes lose is speed.

Dude will be 31 next season, and is owed a shit ton of guaranteed money. Contract was 3/90 w 60m guaranteed.

We can to spend assets for that?

Apparently he has an out clause in his contract that makes it basically guaranteed for only one more year. The team could release him after 2025 and owe him nothing. But as I understand it, Miami would be eating a massive dead cap hit if they trade him an they can likely only do that if he's designated as a post June 1 cut. Trading him might make the Fins eat the whole dead cap money, which means, its a big fat mess.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Apparently he has an out clause in his contract that makes it basically guaranteed for only one more year. The team could release him after 2025 and owe him nothing. But as I understand it, Miami would be eating a massive dead cap hit if they trade him a they can likely only do that if he's designated as a post June 1 cut. Trading him might make the Fins eat the whole dead cap money, which means, its a big fat mess.

We should look elsewhere and let someone else take on the old DIVA WR.

We’ve seen enough of these short videos to know to Stay Away, if premium assets and cash are needed!

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

I don’t want Hill after thinking about it more

He would have to be waived or cut us free

 

[RedRocking]

I wonder about Garrett Wilson.

Next year will be his 4th, so he’s eligible for an extension this summer. Maybe staying in NY doesn’t make sense for either party?

Sub 4.4 guy, great catch radius (less of a body catcher than Terry).

I know Higgins would only cost cap space, but it’s shaping up to be a colossal overpay (for an oft injured guy) based on the market.

 

[ynotcaps]

So how much you would trade for two years of TH then let him walk?

None. I would keep the trade chips and use the cap space to sign a 25-year old WR who's got a big body and terrific hands and has proven adept at catching passes from a former LSU QB...

 

[g00n]

Pierce out in LV. Another opening.

Meanwhile, Kraft is advertising the fact that they gave interviews to some black guys so everything looks A-OK wrt the Rooney Rule when they hire Vrabel like they already planned to when then fired Mayo right after the game on Sunday.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Pierce out in LV. Another opening.

Meanwhile, Kraft is advertising the fact that they gave interviews to some black guys so everything looks A-OK wrt the Rooney Rule when they hire Vrabel like they already planned to when then fired Mayo right after the game on Sunday.

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They are replacing a black coach. So they cannot be accused of not being a part of the rule.

 

[g00n]

They are replacing a black coach. So they cannot be accused of not being a part of the rule.

Every new hire opportunity is a new chance to violate the rule. They're waving a big obvious flag imo.

I like this for CHI and Caleb.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Every new hire opportunity is a new chance to violate the rule. They're waving a big obvious flag imo.

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I like this for CHI and Caleb.

I think Pete would be better than most in CHI.

On the Patriots…..is interviewing knowing you’re unlikely to hire someone (or even knowing you want to hire another candidate) a violation? I thought the point of the rule was to get these guys (and now also women) into the meetings with ownership/management/HC’s so they can show out well. Opportunity.

The Rooney Rule | NFL Football Operations

operations.nfl.com

 

[Ridley Simon]

I think Pete would be better than most in CHI.

On the Patriots…..is interviewing knowing you’re unlikely to hire someone (or even knowing you want to hire another candidate) a violation? I thought the point of the rule was to get these guys (and now also women) into the meetings with ownership so they can show out well. Opportunity.

The Rooney Rule | NFL Football Operations

operations.nfl.com

Agreed. If you know you have your individual, then it’s all kinda bunk anyway.

It’s not — for me — colour vs not. Mike Tomlin or Tony Dungy want new jobs (just off the top
Of my head), they get it without any other applicants.

We will see

 

[Devil Dancer]

Doesn't the current regime talk a lot about acquiring good character guys? Hard to see how a guy who quits on his team and publicly says he's out fits that model.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Apparently the Fins laid down the law to him in a meeting, but he didn’t request a trade at that time.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Apparently the Finns laid down the law to him in a meeting, but he didn’t request a trade at that time.

??

Oh — Hill.

Sorry, I was reading hockey and saw Fins and thought Finland.

Ima dummy

 

[usiel]

??

Oh — Hill.

Sorry, I was reading hockey and saw Fins and thought Finland.

Ima dummy

My brain went the Finland route also.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

My brain went the Finland route also.

Two NN’s my bad….changed it.

 

[Neil Racki]

I wonder about Garrett Wilson.

Yes .. could be Aiyuk 2.0 situation .. like Hill and McCaffrey and Orlando Brown

Young disgruntled studs can be traded for

Would 100% give our late 1st for Wilson

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

With our draft history with wide receivers other than scary Terry, we have been pretty miserable. You could definitely talk me into trading our first round pick into an established player.

I think I would prefer defense. But we definitely need some offensive lineman with those first round picks.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

The Bears seemed to interview everyone for head coach and Kliff not on the list of them yet. Ill take that as good news

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

The Bears seemed to interview everyone for head coach and Kliff not on the list of them yet. Ill take that as good news

I don’t think they can request until after the WC game…(3 days after final game)…

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

I don’t think they can request until after the WC game…(3 days after final game)…

Hopefully they hire someone before they get the chance at him.

 

[ynotcaps]

With our draft history with wide receivers other than scary Terry, we have been pretty miserable. You could definitely talk me into trading our first round pick into an established player.

I think I would prefer defense. But we definitely need some offensive lineman with those first round picks.

I'm not worried about our (agreed) lousy history w/ 1st round WRs -- whole new regime and all that -- but there probably won't be a WR or an OL worth the squeeze when we pick.

The first round is lousy w/ EDGEs, so there could be a worthwhile guy there, or a guy like a Warren or Jeanty could conceivably slip and be available.

Wilson would be amazing if the Jets were dumb enough to let him go. If our first would do it, hell yeah -- he'd be impactful (and for just as long) as anybody we could draft. If they ask for more than that, though, I'd probably be a no. (Unless the more was an overpriced DT...)