Rumor: 2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Thread: Post Deadline

[Richard88]

Not Colton. He’s a 3rd line player, Drouin isn’t. JD is a top 6 forward. With Landy back, top 6 will be full, and don’t think Drouin fits well on 3rd line. I think he’s gone. Also Colton is developing solid chemistry on the 3rd line with Coyle, and we have Coyle another year. They’ll want to keep those two together

If Drouin can't play on the 3rd line just keep him in the top 6 and have one of Landeskog/Lehkonen/Nichushkin bossing it on the 3rd line with Coyle.

 

[the_fan]

Dont you dare think about letting JD walk. I already had to accept my 2nd favorite team not extending Michal dal Colle, losing JD is not an Option. He's a great player, produces well, turned into a great 2 way player and has insane chemistry with Nate. Keep him!

They may not have a choice but to let Drouin go. If Landy is back, healthy, gets back to his old self which means he should be one the 1st or 2nd line, what do you do with Drouin? As I mentioned in my other post, Drouin won’t help us on the 3rd line. He need to be on top 2 lines to produce.

Unfortunately Drouin might be the casualty of not only the cap, but Landy being back and healthy. We also can’t keep Landy on the 3rd line forever paying him 7 mill. He’ll probably be on the 3rd line if he comes back in the playoffs, but not for long once he gets back to shape.

 

[the_fan]

If Drouin can't play on the 3rd line just keep him in the top 6 and have one of Landeskog/Lehkonen/Nichushkin bossing it on the 3rd line with Coyle.

I could maybe see Lehky on the 3rd line, but he also does so much on top 2 lines, not sure it’s a good idea to move him down, same with Val. This whole thing depends on Landy and what his future gonna be as far as health. If he fully recovers and stays healthy, they’re not gonna pay Landy 7 mill to be a 3rd line winger

 

[BobRossColton]

And what about your 13F and 7D?

Don't need em, especially with the health of our team.

 

[niwotsblessing]

 

[the_fan]

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Does this mean McDavid doesn’t want to be an Oiler anymore and gonna demand a trade to the Avs?

 

[niwotsblessing]

Does this mean, McDavid doesn’t want to be an Oiler anymore and gonna demand a trade to the Avs?

Him and Sid both.

 

[John Mandalorian]

There's no reason to trade both Girard and Manson, unless you're dead set on keeping Colton for whatever reason. I'd trade Colton way before moving either Girard or Manson.

He said the reason. By having a less expensive third pairing, in theory, the can have a better third pairing. A better third pairing means better depth and being more adaptable to injuries. But you’re not trading Girard for the sake of trading him. It depends on what opportunities come from doing this.

 

[the_fan]

Him and Sid both.

So you’re saying our center depth would be

MacKinnon
McDavid
Crosby
Nelson

 

[missionAvs]

Not if you ask DeBrincat

Talking about Debrincat, Little G better be back by Tuesday when we face off against the Wings. There's always a chance to see sparks when those 2 are on the ice.

 

[Richard88]

They may not have a choice but to let Drouin go. If Landy is back, healthy, gets back to his old self which means he should be one the 1st or 2nd line, what do you do with Drouin? As I mentioned in my other post, Drouin won’t help us on the 3rd line. He need to be on top 2 lines to produce.

Unfortunately Drouin might be the casualty of not only the cap, but Landy being back and healthy. We also can’t keep Landy on the 3rd line forever paying him 7 mill. He’ll probably be on the 3rd line if he comes back in the playoffs, but not for long once he gets back to shape.

I could maybe see Lehky on the 3rd line, but he also does so much on top 2 lines, not sure it’s a good idea to move him down, same with Val. This whole thing depends on Landy and what his future gonna be as far as health. If he fully recovers and stays healthy, they’re not gonna pay Landy 7 mill to be a 3rd line winger

There is a another option other than letting Drouin walk or wasting one of Lehkonen/Nichushkin/Landeskog on the 3rd line... which is to trade a winger for a RHD. I'll leave it at that lol

 

[The Moops]

Does this mean McDavid doesn’t want to be an Oiler anymore and gonna demand a trade to the Avs?

Only way he'd ever win a cup

 

[Richard88]

He said the reason. By having a less expensive third pairing, in theory, the can have a better third pairing. A better third pairing means better depth and being more adaptable to injuries. But you’re not trading Girard for the sake of trading him. It depends on what opportunities come from doing this.

Do you mean that with a less expensive third pairing they can have a better third line? If not I'm not sure I understand your post.

 

[flyfysher]

Talking about Debrincat, Little G better be back by Tuesday when we face off against the Wings. There's always a chance to see sparks when those 2 are on the ice.

Meanest midget toe to toe fight I ever saw in the NHL.

 

[the_fan]

There is an another option other than letting Drouin walk or wasting one of Lehkonen/Nichushkin/Landeskog on the 3rd line... which is to trade a winger for a RHD. I'll leave it at that lol

I know you’re suggesting we trade Lehky or Val for a RHD, but unfortunately because of an infraction, I can’t use the Olli angry face emoji

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I know you’re suggesting we trade Lehky or Val for a RHD, but unfortunately because of an infraction, I can’t use the Olli angry face emoji

 

[Richard88]

@MarkT

So I previously suggested trading Manson and rolling with EJ/Malinski on the right until a 2 RHD can be found by the TDL... that is, the group below:

Toews - Makar
Girard - EJ
Lindgren - Malinski
Middleton

... But what if you did that but then played Lindgren on the right and added a 3rd pairing LHD (as shown below)?

Toews - Makar
Girard - Lindgren
LHD - Malinski
Middleton/EJ

The handedness with a LHS on the right is an issue but at least this way you're maximizing assets and getting younger and healthier by choosing Lindgren over Manson, and you'll still have a solid top 4.

The only issue is the handedness, but that can be resolved in time, as the idea would be to find a long-term 2 RHD as the cap rises to push Lindgren back down. In the meantime you sign a bottom pairing LHD to a short-term deal who gets pushed down to 7D whenever a RHD is found.

With the signings listed below you'd have 21 guys and $1.6m in capspace to spend on a 3rd pairing LHD in the offseason. The LHD could either be a 2025 UFA who you sign to a 1-2 year deal, or you could trade for a guy with 1-2 years term left with a low enough caphit. Maybe you shave off $500k somewhere and have around $2.1m to play with which would be enough for a pretty decent bottom pairing Dman.

Nelson $7m
Drouin $3.5m
Vesey $800k
Lindgren $4.5m
Malinski $1.5m

 

[the_fan]

Manson is signed for another year, and maybe he fully recovers in the offseason and goes into next season at 100%. In which case Avs don’t need to trade for another d-man. Re-sign Lindgren and we have our d core set

 

[John Mandalorian]

Do you mean that with a less expensive third pairing they can have a better third line? If not I'm not sure I understand your post.

Not at all. But that’s possible. Bednar plays Makar and Toews a lot of minutes. He also plays MacKinnon a lot of minutes. Makar likely gets overplayed for several reasons. He’s on the PK. Manson is often injured. And not having an adequate 2nd line will lead to Bednar wanting MacKinnon and Makar on the ice together to compensate. By having a situation where there is a less significant drop off between the 2nd and third pairing, you have more flexibility to move guys up and down depending on circumstance. Manson Girard work ok provided Manson stays healthy. But he’s injured a lot. Everyone thinks it’s ok as long as he’s healthy for the post season. But if the cost is overplaying Makar during the regular season, that should be heavily considered.

 

[Richard88]

He said the reason. By having a less expensive third pairing, in theory, the can have a better third pairing. A better third pairing means better depth and being more adaptable to injuries. But you’re not trading Girard for the sake of trading him. It depends on what opportunities come from doing this.

Not at all. But that’s possible. Bednar plays Makar and Toews a lot of minutes. He also plays MacKinnon a lot of minutes. Makar likely gets overplayed for several reasons. He’s on the PK. Manson is often injured. And not having an adequate 2nd line will lead to Bednar wanting MacKinnon and Makar on the ice together to compensate. By having a situation where there is a less significant drop off between the 2nd and third pairing, you have more flexibility to move guys up and down depending on circumstance. Manson Girard work ok provided Manson stays healthy. But he’s injured a lot. Everyone thinks it’s ok as long as he’s healthy for the post season. But if the cost is overplaying Makar during the regular season, that should be heavily considered.

Thanks for clarifying.

I'm not understanding why a less expensive third pairing means that they can have a better third pairing. If the 3rd pairing is cheaper it would most certainly be worse more often than not, because better players tend to cost more.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Thanks for clarifying.

I'm not understanding why a less expensive third pairing means that they can have a better third pairing. If the 3rd pairing is cheaper it would most certainly be worse more often than not, because better players tend to cost more.

I said a better third pairing, not a less expensive one. If anything, it’s the opposite.

 

[LTCPain75]

Somebody mentioned Behrens as an option for the Avs' D next season. Highly doubtful. Behrens is recovering from a torn ACL and missed the entire 2024/2025 season. He only played two games with the Eagles before the injury. If he plays next season it will be for the Eagles. Any talk of Behrens taking a roster spot with the Avs next season, IMHO, is wishful thinking

 

[GirardSpinorama]

A better 3rd pairing relieves the 2nd pairing and also makar and toews play less PK. We need decent specialists on the 3rd pairing.

 

[Richard88]

I said a better third pairing, not a less expensive one. If anything, it’s the opposite.

You literally said that...

He said the reason. By having a less expensive third pairing, in theory, the can have a better third pairing. A better third pairing means better depth and being more adaptable to injuries. But you’re not trading Girard for the sake of trading him. It depends on what opportunities come from doing this.

 

[John Mandalorian]

You literally said that...

Sorry. Meant to say less expensive 2nd pairing. Would have thought context of the rest of the comment would have clarified I misspoke (especially given genesis of this was about having a less expensive 2nd pairing).