U18: 2024 Team USA
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Team USA Announces Roster for U18 Men's World Championship
Pardue is the odd man out at forward.
Hutson and Lapointe the odd men out on defense.
They have 1 roster spot open, so I would imagine they are waiting to see if Hutson gets cleared to play, and if not, they'll eventually register Lapointe.
Pardue is the odd man out at forward.
Hutson and Lapointe the odd men out on defense.
They have 1 roster spot open, so I would imagine they are waiting to see if Hutson gets cleared to play, and if not, they'll eventually register Lapointe.
Pavel Buchnevich
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My guess is that Hutson isn't ready yet. Might need another week. They'll try to keep a spot open for him to potentially rejoin the lineup for the elimination rounds. But if a player gets injured and they are down to five, they might have to abandon that plan.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I think we have a medal chance with this team, but most likely it's not our year.
Goaltending is shaky. I have little confidence in Kempf, and none in Heil and Parsons. We don't even know who the goalie will be for game 1.
The defense is big and physical and good defensively, but not that much offense. No Hutson, if he doesn't play, would be a big loss. He's the only defenseman that has more than moderate offense.
The forwards are probably a little better than we worried they could be. Adding Connelly helps, but it's not a great forward group. It's highly reliant on two players.
The lack of promotions from the 17's was stupid. This team needed reinforcements, and for some reason we didn't get many. The other teams aren't that good, so we'll have a chance. But I don't think this is a vintage team for us.
Goaltending is shaky. I have little confidence in Kempf, and none in Heil and Parsons. We don't even know who the goalie will be for game 1.
The defense is big and physical and good defensively, but not that much offense. No Hutson, if he doesn't play, would be a big loss. He's the only defenseman that has more than moderate offense.
The forwards are probably a little better than we worried they could be. Adding Connelly helps, but it's not a great forward group. It's highly reliant on two players.
The lack of promotions from the 17's was stupid. This team needed reinforcements, and for some reason we didn't get many. The other teams aren't that good, so we'll have a chance. But I don't think this is a vintage team for us.
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Good first period. This team has so many offensive weapons.
Hagens
Connelly
Mooney
Eiserman
Hutson
Stiga
They also have some really solid role player types up front, and well rounded group od mobile defensive dmen.
They may not be as deep as the 2019 or 2022 teams, but I think this group is being slept on a bit.
Hagens
Connelly
Mooney
Eiserman
Hutson
Stiga
They also have some really solid role player types up front, and well rounded group od mobile defensive dmen.
They may not be as deep as the 2019 or 2022 teams, but I think this group is being slept on a bit.
Holy crap what a goal. That was some globetrotter shit.
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Been watching on and off, but it's men vs boys here. USA is the much more talented squad. Hagens, no words. Special talent. Hensler too.
Bednarik has caught my eye and I liked what I saw from Emery and Skahan as well so far.
Bednarik has caught my eye and I liked what I saw from Emery and Skahan as well so far.
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Aren't eight defensemen usually allowed in IIHF tournaments? It's a big shame whenever one guy works for two years and then gets sidelined at the last minute. I think Lapointe is also a bit more balanced compared to a few others who are in the team. It's not a big deal, of course, and it doesn't affect the outcome in any way.
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Am I being overly optimistic if I say Eiserman, Buium, Connelly, Bednarik, Stiga, Hutson and Emery all go in the first round?
William H Bonney
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Yes. Not that it couldn't happen but only the first 3 are locks
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13/7 is the norm, but some teams (I think Russia would often do this) will do 12/8 (4 lines and 4 pairs) occasionally.
I think Pardue and Lapointe are likely injury replacements so they're probably still around staying ready. Kids get cut every year and they're aware of course that it's a possibility when they join the program. Most of the time, the writing has been on the wall for a while as they'll spend the entire season as an extra. It can be complicated when a really strong group is a year below a weak group (01s taking the spots of 00s).
They're usually fairly conservative with callups/demotions, such as this year with only one callup (Mooney) and one other "ringer" (Connelly) brought in. I'd imagine not messing wanting to mess up chemistry/create bad feelings heading into the tournament plays a big part of that, because you don't want players being too upset their friends didn't make the team. Everyone knows though that some kids from the U17 team are just too good to leave off the roster or if there is a more specific need.
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There is also nothing to demote them to go do as last minute cuts as the NTDP isn't in the USHL playoffs.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Hagens really turned it on after I thought his first couple of shifts were pretty weak. That whole line was great. Ziemer had a very good game, and Stiga was good too. Didn't think Eiserman had a good game. Sounds crazy for a guy that had three goals, but he can do the "play poorly and still score goals" thing better than anyone in the 2024 draft. Plante didn't have it either. Bednarik was decent because he's not really reliant on others in how he plays the game, but I don't think this line clicks well. Didn't think the third line clicked well either. Connelly, Humphreys, and Mooney all had their moments, but they created even less than the second line. To be fair, Connelly has only played one exhibition game with this team, so they may need more time to click. But this line has no center. Should promote LVV to 3C and make Humphreys the 13F, but I don't think that'll happen. Fourth line wasn't bad, but created very little against a bad team. If they don't hurt the team, that's a positive game and they didn't in this game.
Thought the defense was decent. Hutson being back was a great surprise. This team needs him a lot. And he was impactful right away. Hensler, Skahan, and Emery were all solid. Skahan even looked better with the puck in this game. Bottom three guys all were okay. If you look at the minute distribution, they all played similar amounts. There's a huge drop-off between the minutes the top 4 are playing and the bottom 3. And that kind of jives with what we know about this defense. Not that the bottom three are that bad though. I thought Kempf had a very strong game. I have some slight worries about what happens when he comes up against a Canada or Sweden or Finland, but I don't see many strong goaltenders at this tournament and I don't think he's bad. He's just not going to steal games and win us the tournament. But he's likely capable of not losing it for us, and this team might be good enough to win with that type of goalie.
Thought the defense was decent. Hutson being back was a great surprise. This team needs him a lot. And he was impactful right away. Hensler, Skahan, and Emery were all solid. Skahan even looked better with the puck in this game. Bottom three guys all were okay. If you look at the minute distribution, they all played similar amounts. There's a huge drop-off between the minutes the top 4 are playing and the bottom 3. And that kind of jives with what we know about this defense. Not that the bottom three are that bad though. I thought Kempf had a very strong game. I have some slight worries about what happens when he comes up against a Canada or Sweden or Finland, but I don't see many strong goaltenders at this tournament and I don't think he's bad. He's just not going to steal games and win us the tournament. But he's likely capable of not losing it for us, and this team might be good enough to win with that type of goalie.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I would echo this.
I have been impressed by Hensler, Skahan and Ziemer the most relative to my own expectations, Hagens is a lot of fun to watch. Eiserman just does very little for me, it’s great he scores a ton, but it just seems like he rarely does any of the actual good work that leads to goals, while not looking very engaged anytime the puck isn’t within 10 feet.
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