Transfer: 2024 Summer Transfer Window - Open Window Discussion

[Jussi]

Is there any reason to think RVN is actually good at coaching forwards other than the simple assumption that because he was a forward, he'd be good at it?

Is there any reason NOT to believe he's capable of doing it?

 

[gary69]

Is there any reason to think RVN is actually good at coaching forwards other than the simple assumption that because he was a forward, he'd be good at it?

I think he did well as PSV manager couple of seasons ago, when PSV were top scorers in the league with 89 goals. It was Xavi Simons breakthrough season (if you count him as a forward) with 19 goals and he revitalised Luuk de Jong for 14 goals.

Actually I think he did better than Ten Hag or Slot, given the resources at his disposal, even if he didn't win the title but finished 2nd. He quit because PSV wouldn't back him in the transfer market for the next season.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I mean it’s your own fault. United should clearly win or compete by just having one playmaker and one striker… I rag on united a lot but getting another player to take pressure off Bruno isn’t something rival fans can laugh at.

There’s so much to rag on United for… we clearly have plenty of work to do. But all this uproar for signing a playmaking forward is kinda funny to me, whether or not it works out.

 

[bluesfan94]

I think he did well as PSV manager couple of seasons ago, when PSV were top scorers in the league with 89 goals. It was Xavi Simons breakthrough season (if you count him as a forward) with 19 goals and he revitalised Luuk de Jong for 14 goals.

Actually I think he did better than Ten Hag or Slot, given the resources at his disposal, even if he didn't win the title but finished 2nd. He quit because PSV wouldn't back him in the transfer market for the next season.

De Jong's last season at PSV prior to 22-23 saw him scoring 28 goals. He scored 6 with Barcelona in 3 fewer games the year prior, and my guess is a lot fewer minutes. I'm not sure I'm giving Ruud credit there.

Is there any reason NOT to believe he's capable of doing it?

Sure. Often gifted players make terrible coaches.

 

[Jussi]

Sure. Often gifted players make terrible coaches.

He's clearly been somewhat successful at PSV despite challenging conditions.

 

[gary69]

De Jong's last season at PSV prior to 22-23 saw him scoring 28 goals. He scored 6 with Barcelona in 3 fewer games the year prior, and my guess is a lot fewer minutes. I'm not sure I'm giving Ruud credit there.

Sure. Often gifted players make terrible coaches.

You have to consider De Jong's age though when comparing to those previous seasons in the Eredivisie. Granted, he scored some vital goals in Spain, so he wasn't washed up by any means when he returned to Holland.

But he got a regular spot in the PSV line-up and has kept on scoring since. Obviously only those present in the team training and meetings know the exact effect van Nisterooy had on him, but looking from outside it seems to have been positive.

 

[Jussi]

Should have bought Gakpo instead if you want somebody to link up play.

Well different people were in charge then...

 

[les Habs]

Any of you bums badmouthing De Jong will answer to me. “Use the force Luuk.”

 

[Savant]

Should have bought Gakpo instead if you want somebody to link up play.

You know I’m still not convinced Gakpo is good at anything. If anything I think he is less versatile than I thought he was

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I am not the biggest fan of Gakpo but watching him playing with Netherlands made me realize he is a great crosser of the ball and he has been not used properly with LFC. I think under Slot he will be the new LW and Diaz or Nunez will play striker.

 

[Evilo]

Cubarsi, just this year. One year younger, too.

He has 19 games at age 17.
I didn't call Yoro generational after 19 games. I waited until he had a full season. He has 60 games. Roughly 50 were dominant.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811665529033163122

 

[luiginb]

There’s so much to rag on United for… we clearly have plenty of work to do. But all this uproar for signing a playmaking forward is kinda funny to me, whether or not it works out.

A lot of people will eat crow on Zirkzee. I fully expect him to replace Hojlund by winter.

Beste only cost Benfica 8 mil, what a deal!

 

[Jussi]

DiMarzio reporting that Greenwood is taking a few days (until Monday) to decide what to do following the mayor of Marseille's recent comments.

Napoli are interested in adding an attacker to bolster Conte's side.

If the OM deal falls through, Napoli may attempt a similar deal but with payments structured over time.

 

[Savant]

I am not the biggest fan of Gakpo but watching him playing with Netherlands made me realize he is a great crosser of the ball and he has been not used properly with LFC. I think under Slot he will be the new LW and Diaz or Nunez will play striker.

I still don’t think there is a ton of evidence Gakpo is athletic enough to play LW in the PL. PL is a lot faster than international games. Still think he is a tweener

 

[luiginb]

Sergio Gomez from City to Real Sociedad for 9 mil. Good business for the Basques for a player that's very versatile.

 

[bluesfan94]

Can't say I expected the mayor of Marseille to have that much moral fiber but good on him.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811768882257940862

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Can't say I expected the mayor of Marseille to have that much moral fiber but good on him.

Yeah, I think it's a clear instance of where we see how European football clubs are a lot more community-based/intricately linked to their cities than say, American sports franchises.

It really doesn't feel out of place for the mayor of Marseille to try and shotcall here.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah, I think it's a clear instance of where we see how European football clubs are a lot more community-based/intricately linked to their cities than say, American sports franchises.

It really doesn't feel out of place for the mayor of Marseille to try and shotcall here.

Tbf the holdup on the deal is currently with Greenwood not the club itself. But either way good on the mayor I do agree.

 

[Jussi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811800288887755189

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811801294308290622

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811801263496904958

 

[The Abusement Park]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811800288887755189

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811801294308290622

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811801263496904958

Boooo.

 

[phisherman]

All that character assassination only to let him back into the team without the demanded apology

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811796259595866260