Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season - Complete without a great title in keeping with the performance

[Blitzkrug]

And it’s dawned on people that it miraculously guarantees runs in the postseason too.

The straight answer is that you can legitimately throw any stats from the regular season out the window once postseason comes around. It wouldn’t even shock me if the Dodgers get swept by the Padres/Braves.

Dodgers fans punching the air right now. We all know it's coming but they think differently lmao.

(Turns out that rotation compiled of guys that are made of glass didn't survive the whole season. whodathunkit?)

 

[ryno23]

Why are we moving Springer to DH? His bat barely plays as is at RF but at the very least he brings consistently average defence there.

where are you going to put him? I want to bring in 2 middle of the order OF's. In an ideal world you dump is salary ala Jason Heyward and move on

 

[GoonieFace]

Ah yes because a 2 game sample size (in Baltimore's case against one of the best rotations in baseball) is totally enough to discredit that argument

It's not that simple, but it also kinda is when the rest of your offensive stats are actually decent.

Baltimore also pooped their pants last year. I’m just saying baseball is just so unpredictable. The Jays season sucked this year, but anything can happen next season. Granted, they have some work to do, but it’s not all doom and gloom

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841499788459540630

They can't be serious with some of these quotes.

Shapiro is protecting his own job by keeping his fall guys alive as long as possible. He's a used car salesman.

 

[Cloned]

Baltimore is in pretty much the exact same position the Jays were in a year ago.

Regular season success after a rebuild without any playoff success. It’ll be interesting to see how they approach it compared to what Atkins “did.”

 

[Eyedea]

where are you going to put him? I want to bring in 2 middle of the order OF's. In an ideal world you dump is salary ala Jason Heyward and move on

I’m keeping him at RF, or he moves to LF where we can actually extract some leftover value out of him. Point is it’d be better to get a bat like Horwitz’s in at DH against righties than to just stick Springer there.

I think a 3B would need to come via trade (Bo ain’t moving there), and then a corner OF in FA (Soto… Santander, Teo, Conforto).

 

[metafour]

The strikeouts argument is so disingenuous it kinda pisses me off.

Aaron Judge finished 7th in the majors for strikeouts when he had his monster 2022 season. According to Ross Atkins, this is less valuable to him despite Judge hitting 62 homers and having the best all around offensive season we'd seen since Barry Bonds head turned into a thumb. Adolis Garcia finished 8th in 2023 before going on to have a postseason for the ages while you guessed it, striking out a bit under a third of the time. (18 Ks/62 ABs)

Then there's the guys like Kyle Schwarber who while they strike out a ton, still manage to get incredible value despite it.

The Jays finished 2024 with the fifth fewest strikeouts as a team. Four of the six teams who won division titles this year finished in the top 10 for home runs in New York, Philly, Los Angeles and Houston as already pointed out. To further that, 8 of the teams who made the playoffs as a whole finished in the top 12 for home runs. Detroit and Kansas City are the only outliers. Boy striking out less really helped all those not runs you scored, Ross! f***ing dork.

Dear god, take a Valium.

He did not state that home-runs (or power) aren't important. Can you try to not be hyperbolic?

Here is a fun stat for you all: the team K% ranking of each World Series winner since 2015:

2015 Kansas City - 1st
2016 Chicago - 15th
2017 Houston - 1st
2018 Boston - 3rd
2019 Washington - 5th
2020 Los Angeles - 3rd
2021 Atlanta - 22nd
2022 Houston - 2nd
2023 Texas - 15th

6 of the past 9 World Series winners were Top 5 in team K% (66%).
Only 1 of the past 9 World Series winners were in the bottom-half of the league in team K%.

Here is what he actually said: "In today's game, you have to be cognizant of strikeouts when you add power." There is nothing factually incorrect about what he stated. It has been proven time and time again that contact hitting becomes incredibly important in the playoffs. You are literally seeing it play out in real time with the Padres and Royals ranking #1 and #3 in K% this season. The Royals just blanked the Orioles, and the Padres are well on their way to quick-timing the Braves.

The Houston/Detroit series is the opposite of this trend so obviously this isn't a "law", but its not some far out conclusion to see that timely hitting generally becomes more important in the playoffs because the drastic increase in pitching quality makes relying on home runs to be less successful than it normally is in the regular season.

 

[MK78]

Baltimore is in pretty much the exact same position the Jays were in a year ago.

Regular season success after a rebuild without any playoff success. It’ll be interesting to see how they approach it compared to what Atkins “did.”

They also completed an ownership change this season, so they may just start spending more.

Hopefully not for the Jays sake, hehe.