Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season (better title pending)

[Da Cool Rula]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819133368128143430

Wow interesting. Thx for sharing that.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Do the Jays go out and spend some money on catching? Or they can run with Kirk and an absolute black hole offensively as his backup? I am not so sure.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Do the Jays go out and spend some money on catching? Or they can run with Kirk and an absolute black hole offensively as his backup? I am not so sure.

I just can't see a world where Kirk is an absolute undisputed #1.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I just can't see a world where Kirk is an absolute undisputed #1.

I guess they can still try to sign Jano, but depends on how much money they have total to spend and how much they want to allocate to the catching position.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Do the Jays go out and spend some money on catching? Or they can run with Kirk and an absolute black hole offensively as his backup? I am not so sure.

Get me Josh Thole.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Get me Josh Thole.

Is RA Dickey coming out of retirement too?

 

[trellaine201]

Get me Josh Thole.

There was another catcher that must have been waivers a whack of times and then the Jays would pick him up again once the next team put him on waivers and I can’t remember his name. It was fairly recent though. Maybe 3/4/5 years ago.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Enmanuel Bonilla

Whats the latest on this kid?

 

[phillipmike]

Ranking the Prospects Traded at the 2024 Deadline

Post-trade deadline, these 92 prospects will try to make the majors with new orgs.

blogs.fangraphs.com

4. Bloss
25. Clase
29. Paulino
31. Coffey
56. Wagner
57. Rivera
59. Pinango
70. McAdoo
83. Sharp
86. Schreck
87, Harry
89. Batista

I would have thought Clase, Paulino, Wagner and Coffey would have been higher. I would have thought McAdoo and Batista would have been much higher.

 

[Bjindaho]

Ranking the Prospects Traded at the 2024 Deadline

Post-trade deadline, these 92 prospects will try to make the majors with new orgs.

blogs.fangraphs.com

4. Bloss
25. Clase
29. Paulino
31. Coffey
56. Wagner
57. Rivera
59. Pinango
70. McAdoo
83. Sharp
86. Schreck
87, Harry
89. Batista

I would have thought Clase, Paulino, Wagner and Coffey would have been higher. I would have thought McAdoo and Batista would have been much higher.

Bloss is 92nd on their list.

Unfortunately, they don't really like any of the other prospects (with all of them projecting as lower upside in their opinion).

 

[Eyedea]

Loperfido also would’ve slotted 9th on that list if he was still rookie eligible.

There’s very little variance between a host of those FVs so I’d gather much of the list is interchangeable. However just tossing a 35 on McAdoo might be a little too bearish.

 

[Amadeus]

Bloss is 92nd on their list.

Unfortunately, they don't really like any of the other prospects (with all of them projecting as lower upside in their opinion).

That's exactly it. We unloaded dead weight and the prospects we got are nothing to write home about.

Atkins should be fired regardless.

 

[trellaine201]

Ranking the Prospects Traded at the 2024 Deadline

Post-trade deadline, these 92 prospects will try to make the majors with new orgs.

blogs.fangraphs.com

4. Bloss
25. Clase
29. Paulino
31. Coffey
56. Wagner
57. Rivera
59. Pinango
70. McAdoo
83. Sharp
86. Schreck
87, Harry
89. Batista

I would have thought Clase, Paulino, Wagner and Coffey would have been higher. I would have thought McAdoo and Batista would have been much higher.

Should help our 26/27/28 ranked farm system a bit

 

[Blitzkrug]

That's exactly it. We unloaded dead weight and the prospects we got are nothing to write home about.

Atkins should be fired regardless.

What exactly where you expecting return for a lot of these guys?

Surely you weren't expecting a king's ransom for *checks notes* 39 year old Justin Turner and well cooked Kevin Keirmeier?

 

[Ale Brew]

What exactly where you expecting return for a lot of these guys?

Surely you weren't expecting a king's ransom for *checks notes* 39 year old Justin Turner and well cooked Kevin Keirmeier?

I think we had a good deadline with mostly solid returns and a great return on Kikuchi.

That said Atkins should still be fired. We have a mediocre major league squad and a pretty mediocre system even after this deadline. He’s had 6+ years to build a roster and a system and has been given the resources to get it done.

 

[Blitzkrug]

I think we had a good deadline with mostly solid returns and a great return on Kikuchi.

That said Atkins should still be fired. We have a mediocre major league squad and a pretty mediocre system even after this deadline. He’s had 6+ years to build a roster and a system and has been given the resources to get it done.

I agree. I was done with him when nothing changed after the end of last season.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Clase reminds me a bit of Victorino but with a below average arm. How possible is it to improve arm strength at this stage? If he can get his up to average it would help him profile better in CF long term.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Clase got a card for his MLB debut in the Show this year and i only hit .145 with him

Bust confirmed.

 

[saska sault]

Any word on when estimated first pitch is?

 

[Deebo]

Any word on when estimated first pitch is?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819518179221426404

 

[phillipmike]

Not a good start for Kikuchi.

First pitch double and then next batter HR

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Not a good start for Kikuchi.

First pitch double and then next batter HR

Settled in nicely afterwards. A ridiculous 26 whiffs

 

[aingefan]

Hoping Roden and Palmegiani finish strong. Bay first guys who aren’t far off.
Useful players or decent trade chips.

Speaking of players to watch. How bout Trenton Wallace, 25yo lhsp at NH. Putting up his fourth good year in the system, drafted as a senior out of Iowa (good college career too) basically moving up a level a year. Career pro numbers so far: 2.62era, 1.073whip, 11.3k/9ip over 220ip.

Not sure on his stuff, and not a huge frame for a starter - solid at 6’1/190, but the results are there. Hard to find info on him actually. He’s kinda hiding in plain sight.

In general, Jays seem hyper cautious about innings for their prospects and conservative with promotion. Odd that they were happy enough to take fast-tracked 2023 picks from other organizations at the deadline, but don’t do it much on their own.

I’ll be following this dude, he’s likely due to be protected on the 40 man this year; and seems worth it.

And on cue, TDub gets promoted to AAA for the start.
(And gets knocked around some).

 

[shaner8989]

Justin Turner his a grand slam in his first game
Kikuchi sets an Astros record striking out 8 straight batters in his debut. Also a W.

Typical

 

[canucksfan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819744364333002883