Patriots/NFL 2024 Regular Season: Part II - If the NFL season ended today, the Patriots would have the No. 4 pick in the draft

[JRull86]

The more I've sat on this quote, I just cant fathom how Kraft can bring back this staff in any way shape or form next year if he cares at all about turning it around.



This guy is in so far over his head, and completely unqualified. It's clear the defense was run by Steve and not him. There's zero reason for the type of regression theyve had, even with injuries.

This feels like Jeff Saturday coaching the Colts

 

[DKH]

The more I've sat on this quote, I just cant fathom how Kraft can bring back this staff in any way shape or form next year if he cares at all about turning it around.



This guy is in so far over his head, and completely unqualified. It's clear the defense was run by Steve and not him. There's zero reason for the type of regression theyve had, even with injuries.

This feels like Jeff Saturday coaching the Colts

lol

Could not disagree more



Media & fans in Boston least patient highly critical

No wonder Mrs Monty wanted out of here

 

[PeanutButter37]

Good left tackles rarely hit the free agent market, though.

I've seen some places rate Campbell down in the mid-to-late teens, citing significant concern that he doesn't have the length to be a tackle.

It sounds like this year isn't great for LT at the top of the draft, but supposedly OL is really deep. It sucks that when we really need a LT, there's no top end talent. I do hope they draft a couple of actually LT prospects this year though, with how deep the draft is. I'm sick of the team drafting swing linemen and trying to force them into LT.

 

[yazmybaby]

If you've got some time on your hands. Go back to NFL.com and pull some of the Draft & Combine profiles of some of the current starting left tackles in the league. For shits and grins, I pulled David Bakhtiari's from 2013. Probably one of the best LT in the NFL for the past decade, before his career ended due to injury. Drafting O lineman is only half the battle. Having a great O Line coach is arguably more important.....

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Linemen are like goalies that are drafted in the NHL...can take 4-5 years of development before they hit their ceiling IE Trey Smith.
I agree coaching is very important as well....Jason Kelce would be a nice add to our staff.

 

[yazmybaby]

Alaric Jackson and Trey Smith are available and would be huge upgrades on our line.

It sounds like this year isn't great for LT at the top of the draft, but supposedly OL is really deep. It sucks that when we really need a LT, there's no top end talent. I do hope they draft a couple of actually LT prospects this year though, with how deep the draft is. I'm sick of the team drafting swing linemen and trying to force them into LT.

I think you can score a decent OL / OG in the later rounds, focus on them in rounds 4-7.
Sign Trey Smith and Alaric Jackson this off season, our O line will be vastly improved.
We have the money.

 

[PeanutButter37]

Alaric Jackson and Trey Smith are available and would be huge upgrades on our line.

I think you can score a decent OL / OG in the later rounds, focus on them in rounds 4-7.
Sign Trey Smith and Alaric Jackson this off season, our O line will be vastly improved.
We have the money.

I would love this strategy. Grab a pass rusher and some offensive help early, then draft 3 OL (2 LT prospects) in round 3-7. I'd still throw a bunch of money at an established LT though.

This draft has depth in a lot of places, so I would prefer a trade down from a top 5 pick, if possible. Need an edge rusher for sure and some help on offense obviously. Jack Sawyer early in the 2nd would be great - he looked difficult in their last game against Indiana. Playmaking TE would be nice as well - Loveland in the late first, early second round would be ideal or I'd take a flyer on Fannin in the mid rounds. RB should be a priority at some point, but there are so many good options this year.

 

[JRull86]

lol

Could not disagree more



Media & fans in Boston least patient highly critical

No wonder Mrs Monty wanted out of here

There's a difference between not being patient/critical when you can see the direction it's heading IE Red Sox currently. No one likes how it got to where it is over the past 5 seasons, but it looks like it's going to pay off for them big time.

Compared to the Patriots, having a terrible roster and a coaching staff that doesn't give any type of confidence in their ability to actually COACH moving forward.

I completely disagree with anyone who thinks Mayo will turn it around. Maybe in a different situation he could've been the guy, but adding a rookie head coach with a less than veteran staff around him, massive roster/talent issues, is just setting the entire franchise up to spin it's wheels for another few seasons.

The league see what Drake Maye is, and the potential he has. Do the right thing and bring in either an offensive guy (Johnson) with good defensive support staff around him, or a veteran coach in the league, someone like Vrabel or Daboll.

I don't know, maybe the practice/meetings Mayo is vastly different, but what I've seen through 12 games is a coach who clearly is in way over his head.

 

[McGarnagle]

This is just a weird situation of a season that we haven't seen in Boston since probably the Jason Allison era Bruins. You've got a young team with guys you want to see learn and start making leaps, but also you want them to be in good draft position because they're a high pick or a trade in a critical position away from becoming a playoff team. So you kind of want them to lose (i.e. if they're not making the playoffs then it's better to be dead last than 9th in the conference) but to look good doing it while not totally destroying your young foundational pieces' confidence.

You have players who aren't going to be part of the next core taking up space in the room, those are the guys laughing. Your future guys like Maye and Gonzo are taking it seriously, and that I like to see.

 

[RoccoF14]

lol

Could not disagree more

Honest question: Are you really that bullish on Mayo, or is that opinion solely based on your strong dislike of Belichick?

I don't have a dog in that fight, and could care less who the Pats head coach is. But I watched that game yesterday (due to betting interest only), and the pre-snap penalties and decision making is just not good.

I had the sound turned down, but I thought I was seeing things in the first half when NE challenged that Waddle catch, even though Defensive Holding was already called on the play.........but nope. Was that 10-12 extra yards really so important that a challenge needed to be risked?

Did Mayo address that in the press conference?

 

[Smitty93]

 

[Troublesome 85]

I wanna know who was laughing

 

[ON3M4N]

Patriots have 81 penalties through 12 games..... they had 89 penalties last season in 17 games. They're on pace for 115 penalties, which would be the 2nd most in the last 15 years for the Patriots. The lack of discipline on this team is a massive killer

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Honest question: Are you really that bullish on Mayo, or is that opinion solely based on your strong dislike of Belichick?

I don't have a dog in that fight, and could care less who the Pats head coach is. But I watched that game yesterday (due to betting interest only), and the pre-snap penalties and decision making is just not good.

I had the sound turned down, but I thought I was seeing things in the first half when NE challenged that Waddle catch, even though Defensive Holding was already called on the play.........but nope. Was that 10-12 extra yards really so important that a challenge needed to be risked?

Did Mayo address that in the press conference?

Krafts stock and reputation are dropping firing a coach after 1 year would make things worse.

0-3 or 0-4 start next year and he's gone.

Just keep losing and get McMillan. I want the tackle from Minnesota in the second round.

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

You can always trade with a team that gives you a 2025 first and a 2026 first.

Agree. That was what is I had. Two firsts. Two seconds. Issue is for next 3 drafts only two teams have 2 seconds ( buff and chitown).

 

[GatorMike]

I want the tackle from Minnesota in the second round.

I like him, too... but he probably won't be available in the 2nd round. He's more of a mid-to-late 1st at this point.

 

[CDJ]

Starting LG Michael Jordan released, replaced by waiver claim G Lester Cotton of the dolphins

IIRC Jordan ranks 75th out of 82 guards in football according to PFF

 

[GatorMike]

Starting LG Michael Jordan released, replaced by waiver claim G Lester Cotton of the dolphins

IIRC Jordan ranks 75th out of 82 guards in football according to PFF

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Patriots have 81 penalties through 12 games..... they had 89 penalties last season in 17 games. They're on pace for 115 penalties, which would be the 2nd most in the last 15 years for the Patriots. The lack of discipline on this team is a massive killer

Let's bring back the dude who just beat up his girlfriend that should help!

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Krafts stock and reputation are dropping firing a coach after 1 year would make things worse.

0-3 or 0-4 start next year and he's gone.

Just keep losing and get McMillan. I want the tackle from Minnesota in the second round.

Ok, but we still need some coaches. All these guys seem over their heads. We cant execute or adjust to basic football schemes. If they want to keep Mayo, someone needs to get a DC, OC and someone to manage game situations. Elliot Wolf seems to be an idiot. Is he the guy to pick coaches, or draft picks for that matter?

 

[BradPark22]

Let's bring back the dude who just beat up his girlfriend that should help!

Allegedly.