Patriots/NFL 2024 Regular Season: Part II - If the NFL season ended today, the Patriots would have the No. 3 pick in the draft

[Oates2Neely]

Nothing is guaranteed regardless of the money or picks. Play to win no for draft picks, They can rebuild faster by signing free agents that want to come here to win.

Worst sport in the world when you are losing every week getting your body destroyed for what?

Winning brings talent in FA, trust in a coaching staff brings FA

Okay but who are you referring to? I don’t think the team is intentionally losing. I think the roster lacks talent and the coaching staff is in way over their heads. Fans here are discussing reality, and reality is right now the team stinks and is drafting 4th overall as of today

 

[Smitty93]

I think Mason Graham would be my pick no matter what spot they end up drafting

 

[sarge88]

The purpose of trying to win every game is to find out who on your roster is worth keeping as you head into the post season. Finding out who is going to fight for a job, and figuring out who's gonna compete and who's gonna quit is a lot more important than whether you pick 4th or 14th.

I'll use Carolina as a good example.....They've got nothing to play for, but the last 4 weeks those guys competed. I respect that. The Bears actually competed pretty hard as well over the past 3 weeks against some pretty good teams. They finally realized that they had a bumblef*** for an Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach, and addressed it.

Pats should have won that game yesterday. The fact that they didn't, isn't a good thing.

I'm not suggesting they lose on purpose --- I'm just saying that I won't be upset if they go out and end up losing 4 more and getting a top 5 pick.

As for their loss yesterday ---- and pretty much every other one --- how they lose only really matters if it's the same guys making the same mistakes next season. This includes coaches, players, and coordinators.

You can learn from mistakes and losses without it making you become mistake-prone "losers".

I do get what you're saying --- but TBH they've got so much payroll/roster flexibility that I'm not worried that losing will become a habit because I think they'll weed out those who they need to for next year.

 

[RoccoF14]

I'm not suggesting they lose on purpose --- I'm just saying that I won't be upset if they go out and end up losing 4 more and getting a top 5 pick.

As for their loss yesterday ---- and pretty much every other one --- how they lose only really matters if it's the same guys making the same mistakes next season. This includes coaches, players, and coordinators.

You can learn from mistakes and losses without it making you become mistake-prone "losers".

I do get what you're saying --- but TBH they've got so much payroll/roster flexibility that I'm not worried that losing will become a habit because I think they'll weed out those who they need to for next year.

I don't have a dog in this fight. Not a Pats fan. However I think the evaluation/accountability goes beyond just roster talent. I think NE needs to take a very hard look at coaching and Front Office as well. They've been simply awful drafting players. Including this year. The Maye pick was a no-brainer but man that trade down in Rd 2 to pass on McConkey and take Polk is just brutal and it gets worse and worse each week.

McConkey had 9 for 117....yesterday. Polk has 12 for 87 for the SEASON. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Polk has been healthy most the year as well?

I get that some picks don't work out, but you just can't miss THAT badly on high picks when you are short on talent. Curious to see what the Pats do about that, if anything....

 

[sarge88]

I don't have a dog in this fight. Not a Pats fan. However I think the evaluation/accountability goes beyond just roster talent. I think NE needs to take a very hard look at coaching and Front Office as well. They've been simply awful drafting players. Including this year. The Maye pick was a no-brainer but man that trade down in Rd 2 to pass on McConkey and take Polk is just brutal and it gets worse and worse each week.

McConkey had 9 for 117....yesterday. Polk has 12 for 87 for the SEASON. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Polk has been healthy most the year as well.

I get that some picks don't work out, but you just can't miss THAT badly on high picks when you are short on talent. Curious to see what the Pats do about that, if anything....

Agreed.

They need talent. The silver lining, seems to be that QB should be set for 8-10 years.

They need at least 3 upgrades on the OL --- and that's if Andrews doesn't call it quits and a legit #1 WR......... But it's definitely possible with the cap space and picks they have.

Good news is that once Soto signs with the Sox -- Kraft, et. al. are going to do what they need to do to keep up with them.

 

[smithformeragent]

Hot-seat checks for seven coaches under fire: Should the Patriots, Giants and Bengals make a move?

Seven struggling teams lost again in Week 13, putting more pressure on their embattled head coaches. Let's evaluate each situation.

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[yazmybaby]

I think Mason Graham would be my pick no matter what spot they end up drafting

We have so many holes to fill ( except for QB and perhaps RB), I take the best player available, regardless of the position they play.

 

[DangleCity]

Patriots are in a rebuild. We are being realistic here with the path that's ahead of them to get good again and that is going to take time and unfortunately, losses.

The way they are losing is horrific, that loss yesterday was brutal. If you want to look at it as simple as, loss = higher pick = good, then there is no use even watching the games.

 

[PB37]

The way they are losing is horrific, that loss yesterday was brutal. If you want to look at it as simple as, loss = higher pick = good, then there is no use even watching the games.

Maybe for you there isn't. I'm being entertained watching Maye and Gonzalez develop and the close games keep me interested enough to see how it ends.

 

[Oates2Neely]

If they remain at 4th overall would they pick McMillan AND make an offer to Higgins?

 

[RoccoF14]

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Hot-seat checks for seven coaches under fire: Should the Patriots, Giants and Bengals make a move?

Seven struggling teams lost again in Week 13, putting more pressure on their embattled head coaches. Let's evaluate each situation.

www.espn.com

I didn't have as much of an issue with them not going for 2 against Tennessee as I did with them last week when they wasted a challenge on a completed catch.....on the same play that they were called for Defensive Holding. That was Eberflus-level stupid......

The 68yd field goal try had me scratching my head too, but what do I know?

 

[Smitty93]

I don't have a dog in this fight. Not a Pats fan. However I think the evaluation/accountability goes beyond just roster talent. I think NE needs to take a very hard look at coaching and Front Office as well. They've been simply awful drafting players. Including this year. The Maye pick was a no-brainer but man that trade down in Rd 2 to pass on McConkey and take Polk is just brutal and it gets worse and worse each week.

McConkey had 9 for 117....yesterday. Polk has 12 for 87 for the SEASON. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Polk has been healthy most the year as well?

I get that some picks don't work out, but you just can't miss THAT badly on high picks when you are short on talent. Curious to see what the Pats do about that, if anything....

Part of the issue is that there are so many problems, it's difficult to tell which one is the biggest. We could've said that before Belichick was fired last year. And if that's the case, then the safest play is to simply clean house and start fresh.

That's the biggest issue with this past offseason. They went half-measure with the re-org. It's like they trusted that Belichick had hired all the right people (besides the offensive coaching staff) and if the new leadership simply listened to them, everything would be good.

 

[RoccoF14]

That's the biggest issue with this past offseason. They went half-measure with the re-org. It's like they trusted that Belichick had hired all the right people (besides the offensive coaching staff) and if the new leadership simply listened to them, everything would be good.

Yes. I found that odd as well. Not sure what the thought process was there.

 

[Johnnyduke]

At least the Jets had to announce that Aaron Rodgers will still be their QB. Seeing that giant career losing player a-hole go through this brings a smile to my face.

 

[Oates2Neely]

At least the Jets had to announce that Aaron Rodgers will still be their QB. Seeing that giant career losing player a-hole go through this brings a smile to my face.

You’ll hate him even more so when he & Belichick head to Vegas together next summer

 

[GatorMike]

The way they are losing is horrific, that loss yesterday was brutal. If you want to look at it as simple as, loss = higher pick = good, then there is no use even watching the games.

If every game were a repeat of the Miami performance, then I would agree.

But they're competitive with teams on the fringe of the playoffs more often than not. They're just not talented enough to seal the deal.

 

[RoccoF14]

LOL. Classic Jameis Winston game. 6TD passes, with 2 of them going to the wrong team.....

EDIT: Almost had a 3rd one too!

 

[GatorMike]

Brilliant. Problem solved.

Although, if I were a Bucs fan, I'd be wondering why he didn't think of this years ago.

 

[CDJ]

If you put aside the SA allegation and the full throated support for Deshaun Watson, Jameis is f***ing hilarious



They went in on him

 

[EverettMike]

If you put aside the SA allegation and the full throated support for Deshaun Watson, Jameis is f***ing hilarious



They went in on him

"Besides that Mrs. Lincoln...."

 

[Johnnyduke]

Not sure if Nick Caserio ever kissed Robert Kraft's feet in Jerusalem but if anyone was deserving of an "in waiting" title it would have been him as GM. Not Mayo as HC.

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Johnnyduke]

 

[Oates2Neely]

Meanwhile Ladd McConkey whom the Pats passed on has been on fire. Shades of 2015 Bruins draft. Is Elliot Wolf a Harvard grad too?

 

[Gordoff]

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