Patriots/NFL 2024 Regular Season: Part II - If the NFL season ended today, the Patriots would have the No. 1 pick in the draft

[Johnnyduke]

I dont get the Sanders and Hunter obsession

Nor do I see Kraft bringing in Sanders as a coach. Thats a media circus he doesnt want.

He rather keep mayo and fail until his son takes over

I honestly dont know who I want the next coach to be. Someone new and fresh honestly.

I can understand not buying in on Sanders but I think the buzz around Hunter is 100% deserved. Nobody does what he did in college. Just doesn't happen. Closest maybe Charles Woodson at Michigan and even then his WR role was extremely limited.

 

[Johnnyduke]

So, you're just going to continue to ignore the examples of Hall of Fame quarterbacks that had horrible records as a rookie? After Peyton Manning went 3-13 with 37,000 interceptions as a rookie, the Colts should have traded him and drafted Tim Couch in 1999?

And what is it about Shedeur Sanders that makes him "legit" that isn't there with Maye? Because I think most analysts would argue that Maye's the better prospect. Hell, Sanders is even six months older than Maye is.

I think you're replying to the guy who tried telling everyone Drake Maye wasn't a mobile QB. Yet he is way more mobile than Sanders. I think you get the picture of where this guy's mind is at.

 

[Johnnyduke]

And yet there are people on this board expecting an NFL team to throw a boatload of picks at NE to move up to draft him?

Those 2 points of view don’t jive…

I don't know what the haul would be but it really depends on if you can drag multiple teams into the bidding war. Regardless I am doing everything I can to trade down. If it's not a great offer from other teams just take your top rated player. Or actually take Mel Kiper's top player not Eliot Wolf's.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Bills QB Allen to start to maintain streak, then sit

Bills quarterback Josh Allen will start Sunday at the Patriots to keep his consecutive starts streak going but then soon after come out of the game, coach Sean McDermott said Monday.

www.espn.com

I find this to be extremely lame

And:

 

[StreetHawk]

I can understand not buying in on Sanders but I think the buzz around Hunter is 100% deserved. Nobody does what he did in college. Just doesn't happen. Closest maybe Charles Woodson at Michigan and even then his WR role was extremely limited.

I don’t think Hunter can do enough film study to play that many snaps on both sides. Has to specialize in one and limit his reps on the other side to certain packages. If he’s a CB who can play some WR how many reps will he get with Maye? Conversely, if he’s a WR how many reps will he get to communicate properly with his safeties to know when he should pass off his guy or when he has help over the top.

 

[Johnnyduke]

I don’t think Hunter can do enough film study to play that many snaps on both sides. Has to specialize in one and limit his reps on the other side to certain packages. If he’s a CB who can play some WR how many reps will he get with Maye? Conversely, if he’s a WR how many reps will he get to communicate properly with his safeties to know when he should pass off his guy or when he has help over the top.

I don't expect him to be playing full time on both sides of the ball. I just think it would be crazy to entirely limit him to one side of the ball. There hasn't been a player like him in a long time. Maybe ever in terms of playing offense and defense.

 

[CDJ]

I don’t think Hunter can do enough film study to play that many snaps on both sides. Has to specialize in one and limit his reps on the other side to certain packages. If he’s a CB who can play some WR how many reps will he get with Maye? Conversely, if he’s a WR how many reps will he get to communicate properly with his safeties to know when he should pass off his guy or when he has help over the top.

I don’t even think it’s a film study thing as much as it is a workload thing. He’s a very intelligent guy. Workload is why I think he should be full time WR and then CB in specific situations- it’s tough to play 120 snaps a game against nfl competition and stay healthy through it all

 

[GatorMike]

Las Vegas currently has the 8th pick.

They're a team I could see being interested in jumping up to take Sanders.

That'd be the range where I'd start to feel OK about taking someone like Will Campbell or Kelvin Banks, as well.

 

[CDJ]

I’d be looking to trade down to 2 or 3 or 8

2/3 if they want Hunter, 8 if they want Banks

 

[Shaun]

if gruden is on the table you have to interview him. drake would throw 50 touchdowns and he knows goodell is a clueless, anti football p***y.

 

[Johnnyduke]

As long as Eliot Wolf isn't calling the shots I'll feel better

if gruden is on the table you have to interview him. drake would throw 50 touchdowns and he knows goodell is a clueless, anti football p***y.

Isn't Jon Gruden basically black balled from the league at this point? I would be stunned if a team turns to a 60 year old Barstool employee.

 

[GatorMike]

if gruden is on the table you have to interview him. drake would throw 50 touchdowns and he knows goodell is a clueless, anti football p***y.

I'm thinking there's a pretty good reason why he doesn't have an NFL job at this point.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Pats need 2 weapons at WR. Maybe McMillan is the pick. Add a Higgins or Metcalf. Spend some money in free agency for o-lineman. Draft o-lineman with your later picks (2nd & beyond) with an eye towards the future.

I have no faith this front office will draft capable WR’s unless they’re obvious picks at top of draft.

 

[Shaun]

I'm thinking there's a pretty good reason why he doesn't have an NFL job at this point.

pelisero had a report he was offered the saints OC job but opted to be a consultant because he was waiting for a head coaching job

 

[GatorMike]

pelisero had a report he was offered the saints OC job but opted to be a consultant because he was waiting for a head coaching job

...which is why he's now working for Barstool.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Pats need 2 weapons at WR. Maybe McMillan is the pick. Add a Higgins or Metcalf. Spend some money in free agency for o-lineman. Draft o-lineman with your later picks (2nd & beyond) with an eye towards the future.

I have no faith this front office will draft capable WR’s unless they’re obvious picks at top of draft.

If the Krafts stick with Wolf and the utterly useless Matt Groh they should hand them the consensus draft rankings and force them to pick from those. No picking someone like Polk who a lot of people had going later in the draft--and now we see why.

 

[GlenFeatherstone]

Pats need 2 weapons at WR. Maybe McMillan is the pick. Add a Higgins or Metcalf. Spend some money in free agency for o-lineman. Draft o-lineman with your later picks (2nd & beyond) with an eye towards the future.

I have no faith this front office will draft capable WR’s unless they’re obvious picks at top of draft.

I think Higgins is a must. I like McMillan a lot as well but I think they are both X receivers. Although it works with Higgins and Green so I’ve talked myself into a 180 let’s do it haha.

 

[Johnnyduke]

In regard to Vegas I am at least mildly intrigued by how Brady approaches his ownership stake. Is he just in it for the money or does he view it as a chance to impact an organization. Does he want to try and turn the Raiders into a winner...

 

[Score08]

Mayo needs to go, let the new coach hire his own staff. Mayo is a horrible leader, and a coward that dodges responsibility by blaming his subordinates. He was a good player but very obviously doesn’t possess coaching/leadership skill set. He was hired by Kraft as last ditch attempt at the HOF .

 

[Johnnyduke]

Nick Cattles 100% unlistenable

 

[GatorMike]

Out of curiosity...

What would your reaction be if the Krafts decided not to fire either Mayo or Wolff, but instead decided that they're both going to report to a new President of Football Operations? And their new President of Football Ops is someone with some name recognition and some gravitas - I'm thinking Pete Carroll, Bill Cowher, Tom Coughlin... someone like that?

 

[Johnnyduke]

Out of curiosity...

What would your reaction be if the Krafts decided not to fire either Mayo or Wolff, but instead decided that they're both going to report to a new President of Football Operations? And their new President of Football Ops is someone with some name recognition and some gravitas - I'm thinking Pete Carroll, Bill Cowher, Tom Coughlin... someone like that?

I am completely fine with that IF the Krafts actually give that person final say on roster and coaches. If that person wants to remove/demote Mayo/Wolf don't stand in the way and don't be cheap.

 

[Therick67]

Out of curiosity...

What would your reaction be if the Krafts decided not to fire either Mayo or Wolff, but instead decided that they're both going to report to a new President of Football Operations? And their new President of Football Ops is someone with some name recognition and some gravitas - I'm thinking Pete Carroll, Bill Cowher, Tom Coughlin... someone like that?

Anything is better than just sticking with this duo and hoping they can figure it out..

 

[EverettMike]

The headline is a little sensational, but this is a very well-done, very fair piece that is still scathing for the coaching staff and Wolf based on just the cold hard facts.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/12/31/sports/patriots-final-week-change/

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Las Vegas currently has the 8th pick.

They're a team I could see being interested in jumping up to take Sanders.

That'd be the range where I'd start to feel OK about taking someone like Will Campbell or Kelvin Banks, as well.

They'd be better off dealing a 2nd to Minnesota for Darnold