OT: 2024 Olympics: Member when they were amateurs?

[Boom Boom Apathy]

With how dominant Amit Elor is at 21 years old, would one conclude that she has a genetic advantage in a combat sport?

I 100% applaud her accomplishments and think it's fantastic.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

With how dominant Amit Elor is at 21 years old, would one conclude that she has a genetic advantage in a combat sport?

I 100% applaud her accomplishments and think it's fantastic.

Olympic wrestling and combat sports like MMA aren't always perfect translations. Amit is so good at what she does, though, that she has a real chance at getting unusually-high levels of name recognition outside of niche circles by 2028 in Los Angeles.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Swedens team go from 0-2 to 3-2 in the semifinals against Japan in the table tennis. Was so nervous, the game ended 11.30 PM here. First time in history Sweden gets two medals in table tennis in the same Olympics (got silver in the mens single tournament). Finals tomorrow against either China or France.

Great Olympics for Sweden so far, 8 medals (3 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze) and one medal coming soon in the table tennis. Also some candidates left (handball, beachvolleyball, sailing) for some more.

 

[LakeLivin]

Watching rhythmic gymnastics this morning, more entertaining than I'd of thought. Women throwing a ball or hoop 50 feet in the air and catching it with their feet, e.g. Plus the artistry that used to be more integral to women's floor ex a long time ago before it became basically just tumbling (not that I don't enjoy the tumbling that, as Leslie Jones says, makes gravity look like just a suggestion).

 

[hblueridgegal]

Sweet gig!

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

That minute run from Curry was insane. I don’t know that I have seen a minute like that since Jason (Jay) Williams willed Duke back over Maryland.

That last shot was wild.

 

[LakeLivin]

Nice to see Jordan Chiles get a bronze, but did that Romanian gymnast get hosed? They accepted the U.S. appeal to review her start score, which bumped Chiles up a tenth and into third. But they penalized the Romanian a tenth for stepping out, which replays seem to show she didn't. But they apparently wouldn't accept her appeal to review the penalty, which if taken away would have put her above Chiles adjusted score. ruh?

I don’t pretend to understand gymnastics or its rules. The 2nd Romanian that went after Biles looked better than Chiles and the Romanian who lost her medal

Yeah, shes the one I was talking about that had the tenth seemingly wrongly deducted and then her appeal to look at it denied. I wasn't talking about the Romanian who was temporarily in third before Chiles' appeal (didn't realize that she was also Romanian or else I'd have been clearer about who I meant). Tbh, I thought the one we're both talking about looked a lot better than even Biles, but I understand the concept of Biles start score being so much higher than everybody else that even if she stepped out a couple times she could still outscore most others

edit: I'm no expert either, but the commentators, who are, thought that Sabrina Voinea (that's who we're talking about) should have jumped into first over the other Romanian after she finished her routine (that was before Biles and Andrescue went).

So they've now determined that the U.S. coaches were 4 seconds too late in appealing Chiles start value and awarded the bronze to the Romanian. And still didn't get it right because it should have gone to the other Romanian (Voinea), the one who had the tenth deducted for stepping out when she really didn't. What a clusterf#&K.

edit: they haven't yet announced if they'll take away Chiles bronze or not.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Since it was judges error...multiple times..., they really should just share the medal between the three.

And speaking of sharing medals, the American jumper who refused to share gold with the New Zealander and then lost in the jump off must be kicking himself.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

China will have the most gold medals

 

[WreckingCrew]

China will have the most gold medals

Awarded or earned?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Awarded or earned?

Well we shocked and won gold in track cycling. So we can tie them if the WBB team wins

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Swedens team go from 0-2 to 3-2 in the semifinals against Japan in the table tennis. Was so nervous, the game ended 11.30 PM here. First time in history Sweden gets two medals in table tennis in the same Olympics (got silver in the mens single tournament). Finals tomorrow against either China or France.

Great Olympics for Sweden so far, 8 medals (3 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze) and one medal coming soon in the table tennis. Also some candidates left (handball, beachvolleyball, sailing) for some more.

We did well in terms of Gold medals - 3 is above average (average is 2.5), but low on overall medal count - just 5.
We usually operate around 8 to 11.

 

[Porvari]

After teetering on the edge for decades, Finnish Olympic sports went finally off the cliff this year. 0–0–0

 

[Unsustainable]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1822265132849770748

 

[cptjeff]

Well we shocked and won gold in track cycling. So we can tie them if the WBB team wins

Road race as well. Turns out that Kristen Faulkner is pretty good.

Honestly, kinda stupid how some sports like swimming and track have two zillion medals while cycling has like four. The medal count stuff is just silly to me given the huge disparity in medals available by sport. And the major team sports only count for one each. Pretty sure the women's soccer gold is a little harder to get than the 150m on a tuesday doggy paddle medal.

 

[DaveG]

Road race as well. Turns out that Kristen Faulkner is pretty good.

Honestly, kinda stupid how some sports like swimming and track have two zillion medals while cycling has like four. The medal count stuff is just silly to me given the huge disparity in medals available by sport. And the major team sports only count for one each. Pretty sure the women's soccer gold is a little harder to get than the 150m on a tuesday doggy paddle medal.

I think it's more about the lack of medals in cycling on that one. For swimming you have the absolute freaks like Phelps that can dominate in every event they qualify for, but there's a lot of specialization in the sports. 400M free is a very different beast than the 100 or even 200, and the 1500 is even more dramatic a difference than that. From having done it at a high level (backstroke and breaststroke *giggity* were my specialties) there's a lot of specialization involved. Like, people can compete with Katie Ledecky at the shorter distances like the 200 but she just outright destroys everyone at the 800 and 1500. There's a lot more to cycling than just the few events they give out the medals for, and frankly in France of all damn places to hold the Olympics you would think they'd introduce medals for something like a climbing stage type event.

 

[LakeLivin]

Since it was judges error...multiple times..., they really should just share the medal between the three.

And speaking of sharing medals, the American jumper who refused to share gold with the New Zealander and then lost in the jump off must be kicking himself.

I'd like to see them just admit it was a clusterf@%k and give it to Voinea, the gymnast with the clear best performance of the three. I say "clear best" not just based on the inexpert opinion of everyone I've talked to who saw it, but on that of the announcers, U.S. gymnasts who are experts.

This is different from a missed call during a game where the act of making (or missing) a call impacts what happens afterwards and therefore makes it impossible to determine what would have happened had the correct call been made. The routines were the routines, weren't impacted by the judges, and will never change, period. Admit that the administrative aspect of the judging was a clusterf@%k and correct just that part, not the evaluative scoring. Add back Voinea's tenth that shouldn't have been deducted and correct Chiles start value to what it should have been. Voinea finishes third, Chiles fourth, and Barbosu fifth (sorry, but you did have the fifth best routine). I'd try to figure out some sop to throw Chiles and Barbosu as an apology for putting them through the anguish they must have felt during the process, but a duplicate bronze ain't it.

edit: and yeah, I'm aware that could be a dangerous precedent, but announce it as a one time deal based on extraordinary circumstances, not one that would be used as a precedent going forward.

 

[cptjeff]

I think it's more about the lack of medals in cycling on that one. For swimming you have the absolute freaks like Phelps that can dominate in every event they qualify for, but there's a lot of specialization in the sports. 400M free is a very different beast than the 100 or even 200, and the 1500 is even more dramatic a difference than that. From having done it at a high level (backstroke and breaststroke *giggity* were my specialties) there's a lot of specialization involved. Like, people can compete with Katie Ledecky at the shorter distances like the 200 but she just outright destroys everyone at the 800 and 1500. There's a lot more to cycling than just the few events they give out the medals for, and frankly in France of all damn places to hold the Olympics you would think they'd introduce medals for something like a climbing stage type event.

Sure, but you do each of those distances for four strokes, then you do it for a bunch of different relays, and it just adds up to an utterly absurd number of medals. You could do more for cycling, but swimming just plain old has too many.


And yeah, cycling you could have a one day medal, a climb medal, a sprint medal, a gravel medal, and a stage race medal. Do the one day race first, rest for a few days, then do a 10 day stage race awarding additional medals instead of the sprinter's jersey and the climbing jersey. Do the gravel as a one day stage race as well. The mountain biking should have both cross country and downhill categories.

 

[DaveG]

Sure, but you do each of those distances for four strokes, then you do it for a bunch of different relays, and it just adds up to an utterly absurd number of medals. You could do more for cycling, but swimming just plain old has too many.

Freestyle swimming you can argue has too many (50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 4x 100, 4x 200), but hard disagree on the rest. You also have the open water 10Ks which are also effectively freestyle events.
Fly, Breaststroke, and Backstroke you only have the 100 and 200. IMs have the 200 and 400. And there's the 1 4x 100 team medley relay event.
And not everyone does each of those 4 strokes, that's prettymuch only the true absolute freaks like Phelps that would be able to qualify as one of the two best in the country in each of those individual techniques. You get a lot of specialists at the Olympics that are exceptionally good at one or two of them, but aren't able to qualify for the other events or the IM because of a deficiency in one or more of the other strokes.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Swedens team go from 0-2 to 3-2 in the semifinals against Japan in the table tennis. Was so nervous, the game ended 11.30 PM here. First time in history Sweden gets two medals in table tennis in the same Olympics (got silver in the mens single tournament). Finals tomorrow against either China or France.

Great Olympics for Sweden so far, 8 medals (3 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze) and one medal coming soon in the table tennis. Also some candidates left (handball, beachvolleyball, sailing) for some more.

More importantly now… better than Denmark and that POS institution known as Norway (that country us severely underhated)

Well we shocked and won gold in track cycling. So we can tie them if the WBB team wins

‘MERICA FU^K YEAH

 

[LakeLivin]

When it comes to medal counts one thing that's failrly misleading to me is ignoring the size of a countries population. Seems that the more potential athletes you have to draw from the more medals you should win. Kind of like a goals/game or goals/60 stat, lol.

E.g., which country had a relatively better 2024 Olympics:

China (pop 1.4 billion) 40 gold, 91 total
Japan (pop 124 million) 20 gold, 45 total

China won twice as many medals but has over 10 times the popluation.

 

[raynman]

Sure, but you do each of those distances for four strokes, then you do it for a bunch of different relays, and it just adds up to an utterly absurd number of medals. You could do more for cycling, but swimming just plain old has too many.


And yeah, cycling you could have a one day medal, a climb medal, a sprint medal, a gravel medal, and a stage race medal. Do the one day race first, rest for a few days, then do a 10 day stage race awarding additional medals instead of the sprinter's jersey and the climbing jersey. Do the gravel as a one day stage race as well. The mountain biking should have both cross country and downhill categories.

Adding gravel and downhill or enduro mtb would be awesome.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

When it comes to medal counts the thing that's most misleading to me is ignoring the size of a countries population. Seems that the more potential athletes you have to draw from the more medals you should win. Kind of like a goals/game or goals/60 stat, lol.

E.g., which country had a relatively better 2024 Olympics:

China (pop 1.4 billion) 40 gold, 91 total
Japan (pop 124 million) 20 gold, 45 total

China won twice as many medals but has over 10 times the popluation.

In fairness, China only has only about 124 million in population of the chosen people who the government would choose to participate.

 

[Derailed75]

Adding gravel and downhill or enduro mtb would be awesome.

Speaking of awesome I watch the Women's breakdancing battle finals and the women's Artistic swimming. These are 2 sports that I have no idea how they are Olympic sports but damn I couldnt stop watching them. Saying they are extremely talented is an understatement.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Speaking of awesome I watch the Women's breakdancing battle finals and the women's Artistic swimming. These are 2 sports that I have no idea how they are Olympic sports but damn I couldnt stop watching them. Saying they are extremely talented is an understatement.

Breaking won’t be a part of the 28 Olympics