HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[dinodebino]

People will argue even when we pick the right guy.

It all flows into a gutter that becomes a cesspool gushing into an abyss but it’s never bottomless as there is always enough raw sewage to beget a quagmire.

Pure poetry about slimy shit, if you think about it. It’s the best sentence ever about some bottomless shit-filled dumpster.

 

[Hacketts]

Yes, we have a million D prospects that could sweeten the deal along with the 5th.

and a 1st next year.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

And Lucas Raymond.

It has more to do with position than size - teams want to build down the middle or from the back.

not sure about odds, but I would not be at all surprised if Chicago decided to add a big center like Lindstrom to draw some attention away from Bedard. Create 2 good lines. (Crosby / Malkin)

and Jo Drouin if we go back 10 years 2013 counts.

 

[jaffy27]

Kent Hughes said this on draft day

He sees him as a D2……not second pairing

It’s at the 8:10 mark of the interview

Sees him logging in heavy minutes

 

[Nicko999]

and a 1st next year.

Sure but it will most likely be a late 1st so not enough value to move from 5 to 2.

 

[salbutera]

Rumors are actually that Kyle Davidson likes Sam Dickinson a lot and they've scouted him a bunch of time. They might be willing to stay put and pick him 2nd.

Or play coy & let on they want Demigod for a team like Habs to cough up an additional 1st rounder…

 

[Jabba11]

If Demidov is gone (which he will), I believe we need to draft a D-man. Buium is better than any of the other forwards.
Drafting a forward strictly for needs is recipe for disaster.

100% agreed. For me it's Demidov, and if not available, go for Zeev Buium. Walk up, announce, take a pic, smile, come back down and know that you've just drafted the best defenseman of the draft and you are set for the next 15 years.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

He sees him as a D2……not second pairing

It’s at the 8:10 mark of the interview

Sees him logging in heavy minutes

What is a #2 tho? Devon Toews type?

 

[Benstheman]

If Celebrini, Demidov, and Lindstrom are gone, I think they will pick up Sennecke.

It might not surprise me if they trade picks with Calgary and still get Sennecke.

Calgary and Ottawa are good targets for a trade down.

 

[salbutera]

What is a #2 tho? Devon Toews type?

It’s a first pairing minute eating Dman not a Hedman

 

[admiralcadillac]

Calgary and Ottawa are good targets for a trade down.

To get what though?

 

[GrandmaCookie]

It’s a first pairing Dman

Often time you get a #1 elite defenseman with a top 4 defenseman on the first line. A D2 doesn't mean much. The difference between a #1 and a #2 can be pretty signifiant.

 

[FinnHab]

Overall, this is good result for us. Odds to drop to 6 or 7 were quite high too.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Asked chatgpt here is your answer:

The last time an NHL team traded a top 5 draft pick was in 2016. The Montreal Canadiens traded their 9th overall pick in the 2016 NHL Entry Draft to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for defenseman prospect Mikhail Sergachev and a conditional 2nd-round pick in the 2018 NHL Entry Draft. This trade allowed the Coyotes to select Clayton Keller with the 7th overall pick.

WHAT?!!

 

[Hacketts]

Or play coy & let on they want Demigod for a team like Habs to cough up an additional 1st rounder…

Pay the man what he wants and both teams walk away happy.

 

[jaffy27]

Often time you get a #1 elite defenseman with a top 4 defenseman on the first line. A D2 doesn't mean much. The difference between a #1 and a #2 can be pretty signifiant.

Means you’re playing 25mins a night, killing penalties, on the ice in important situations, probably second wave of PP….pretty important D if you ask me

 

[Runner77]

Sure. While Iginla is rising and may well get picked around 4-6 if the right team is sold on his upside.... It's also easily arguably that he isn't.

This draft is about as wide open from 2-8?9? as any in recent memory.

But that's not the point. GMs don't make decisions the way fans do. Relationships matter tremendously and significantly influence their assessments... As do things like market fit.

Look at Hughes & his former clients (relationships), or a big driver in their rational in picking Slaf (his mental/emotional makeup to handle the Montreal spotlight & pressure (market fit).

Conroy would be not only gambling on his 5th pick hitting, he'd be risking assets to move up and, if Iginla was still on the board (as with this scenario), taking the massive risk of Iginla hitting and being selected with the pick he gave up quality assets to move out from.

All of this playing out over a 3-4 year window when the Flames will desperately need some strong positive PR (contentious publicly funded arena gets built in that time, while the current roster is handcuffed by Treviling's parting gift).

It's about as lose lose a scenario as a GM could self inflict...

Plus, there is literally no GM in the league that knows Tig the player and person as well as Conroy does.

Factor it all together, and that scenario is about as unlikely as it gets. Far more likely would be Conroy being willing (& supported by ownership) to be aggressive in moving up to ensure they get Iginla.

I wonder how far the Habs can squeeze Calgary for the chance of drafting Iginla?

Could they for instance, as part of the assets going the Habs way, have all the silly conditions that Hughes and Treliving negotiated, removed, such that the Monahan 1st rounder becomes a free and clear unprotected pick?

I sure as heck would get that done if it’s possible to do.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Means you’re playing 25mins a night, killing penalties, on the ice in important situations, probably second wave of PP….pretty important D if you ask me

If he can become a Jacob Trouba type it would be good.

 

[salbutera]

Roger. So my initial assessment stands... Terrible take from a writer whose job it is, in theory, to know better

I would only say, The Athletic beat writers have proven to have pretty strong inroads to information access.

 

[Habaneros]

May 7th 2024

Scout's Analysis: 18 prospects who could be lottery picks

With the NHL Draft Lottery upon us, Jason Bukala updates his ranking of the top 18 prospects he thinks will be in consideration to be selected with one of the lottery picks.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Miller Time]

I would only say, The Athletic beat writers have proven to have pretty strong inroads to information access.

Access is one thing.

What one does with that access, quite another

 

[River Meadow]

May 7th 2024

Scout's Analysis: 18 prospects who could be lottery picks

With the NHL Draft Lottery upon us, Jason Bukala updates his ranking of the top 18 prospects he thinks will be in consideration to be selected with one of the lottery picks.

www.sportsnet.ca

This draft is insane...

 

[Habricot]

Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla or Sennecke.

One of these is going to be the Habs pick and it's AWESOME!!

I dont think Demidov will be there. The real question is who of the next three will be best.

 

[salbutera]

This draft is insane...

Nah - other than Celebrini the next 10-12 players are all in the same sphere so it becomes a question of stylistic preference

 

[dinodebino]

i'm going to vomit if we draft Bustenius

Again?