HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[1000eeer]

My wishlist:
1- Demidov
2- Lindstrom
3- Ignila

 

[Saundies]

My wishlist:
1- Demidov
2- Lindstrom
3- Ignila

Honestly, I think this is where I'm at too ultimately. I do love the idea of Eiserman as well and probably put him over Iginla (I'd take another, larger Cole Caufield any day of the week).

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Scott Wheeler updated top 15

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
6. Cole Eiserman
8. Berkly Catton
9. Konsta Helenius
11. Cayden Lindstrom
12. Tij Iginla
14. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
15. Michael Hage
16. Beckett Sennecke

For Bob's list today, it's a quick poll so expect more movement on his final list.



Briere said they aren't just the other day on the U18 broadcast. 2 more years they'll wait.

It's so weird that he skipped over some numbers in his top 16.

 

[Shutdown]

There's the year left on his contract and the mandatory 1 year military service.

i've never seen any article or quote from his agent mentioning anything other than Demidov being in North American after this upcoming season. not a single mention of mandatory military service prolonging his stay in Russia.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I'm sort of expecting management to try to trade up using a young defenseman + our pick to grab Lindstrom. He seems like he checks all the boxes of what they want, he'd give insurance at 2C and he has that "unicorn" factor that we all know Bobrov is obsessed with.

The forwards we're likely going to be choosing between all have such wild floors and ceilings. I could see a world where Lindstrom turns into the premier power forward in the league that every team wants, or he could get derailed with injury, lose key development time and wind up as a bottom 6 guy. I could see Eiserman turning into a 50 goal monster, or I could see him being Hoffman 2.0. I could see Catton turning into an ultra skilled forward at the NHL level with 80+ point upside, or he could have trouble adapting to the physicality and struggle translating his offense. I feel like Iginla doesn't quite have the ceiling as the rest of the pack(although I do think he has 1st line potential), but I think he's more certain to be a top 6 forward than the rest.

 

[zzoo]

It's so weird that he skipped over some numbers in his top 16.

He skipped the D. And I like that.

 

[morhilane]

Could Demidov play in the NHL next year ?
Since he hasn't signed in the KHL

Demidov has another year to his contract in Russia.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Scott Wheeler updated top 15

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
6. Cole Eiserman
8. Berkly Catton
9. Konsta Helenius
11. Cayden Lindstrom
12. Tij Iginla
14. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
15. Michael Hage
16. Beckett Sennecke

For Bob's list today, it's a quick poll so expect more movement on his final list.



Briere said they aren't just the other day on the U18 broadcast. 2 more years they'll wait.

First time I see the name of Hage in the top 15! Finally some respect to his game.

 

[Saundies]

I'm sort of expecting management to try to trade up using a young defenseman + our pick to grab Lindstrom. He seems like he checks all the boxes of what they want, he'd give insurance at 2C and he has that "unicorn" factor that we all know Bobrov is obsessed with.

The forwards we're likely going to be choosing between all have such wild floors and ceilings. I could see a world where Lindstrom turns into the premier power forward in the league that every team wants, or he could get derailed with injury, lose key development time and wind up as a bottom 6 guy. I could see Eiserman turning into a 50 goal monster, or I could see him being Hoffman 2.0. I could see Catton turning into an ultra skilled forward at the NHL level with 80+ point upside, or he could have trouble adapting to the physicality and struggle translating his offense. I feel like Iginla doesn't quite have the ceiling as the rest of the pack(although I do think he has 1st line potential), but I think he's more certain to be a top 6 forward than the rest.

Regarding Eiserman, this version of Hoffman would be fine:

As for the rest of the post, I see what you're saying but this is usually the case with prospects most years. Rarely are any of them sure things, especially ones where you're betting on their skills to translate.

 

[Mrb1p]

Do you know how much Lindstrom has played with McKenna ? I wonder if McKenna inflates Lindstrom's stats.
Do you know at what rank was Lindstrom drafted in WHL ?

They played together at times but he mainly played with Basha, who is also a fantastic prospect in his own right and was the best player on his line. Powerplays were spent all together most nights I've seen.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

He's too much of a garbage human. Habs will never pick him because of all the negative PR. Also he doesn't fit with the culture they are trying to build. He's soft too.

I feel that way about Parekh.

Spitting on guys makes him a ND for me.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Regarding Eiserman, this version of Hoffman would be fine:

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As for the rest of the post, I see what you're saying but this is usually the case with prospects most years. Rarely are any of them sure things, especially ones where you're betting on their skills to translate.

I personally think Hoffman is a very generous projection to Eiserman. I am very close to put him ND on my list. I already seeing too many red flags with him but the one about using his name in the first person for an Interview is not something I would want from any player. I am seeing bust more and more. (Not even NHL caliber player)

 

[Saundies]

I personally think Hoffman is a very generous projection to Eiserman.

Can I ask why? If Caufield was severely underrated because of his size, and Eiserman has scored at the same clip he did in the same program, why is Hoffman a generous comparison?

Genuine question on your opinion, not trying to bait or make a point.

 

[Mrb1p]

I personally think Hoffman is a very generous projection to Eiserman.

Oh ya a 1 time 30 goal scorer is a very generous projection for the best goalscoring prospect in American history.

The things you read in this thread.

 

[sampollock]

bob list out today
lottery tomorrow...
big couple days to gear up for

 

[EveryDay]

1-Celebrini
2-Demidov
3-Lindstrom
4-Levshunov
5-Iginla/Catton

 

[WeThreeKings]

Wowww, Eiserman that high !?!?? Helenius seems high too.
I'm glad that Catton is ranked higher than Lindstrom and Iginla.

Scott Wheeler was a scout for the Leafs, so he takes production over qualities that help you win games. Just gotta know his bias.

It's so weird that he skipped over some numbers in his top 16.

It's pay-walled, so I only gave the forwards since the Habs will not be drafting a defenseman.

 

[Scintillating10]

Scott Wheeler updated top 15

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
6. Cole Eiserman
8. Berkly Catton
9. Konsta Helenius
11. Cayden Lindstrom
12. Tij Iginla
14. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
15. Michael Hage
16. Beckett Sennecke

For Bob's list today, it's a quick poll so expect more movement on his final list.

Lindstrom and Ignila sound low. Sennecke at 16?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Oh ya a 1 time 30 goal scorer is a very generous projection for the best goalscoring prospect in American history.

The things you read in this thread.

Ok, well show me your projection for Puljujarvi or Filip Zadina or Nail Yakupov prior to their draft year. I assume you also thought they would become good players based on their pre draft achievement right? I see similar patterns with Eiserman and it's not related to his goal scoring ability, it's related to his demeanor and attitude.

For me Eiserman lack of effort and unidimensional game will be his downfall. In the NHL even the top tier skilled players compete hard and dominate on almost every shift, he is not that and leaching of James Hagens brilliance is also another issue I have with him. Also just for the record, quite rich coming from you that would love nothing more but to trade away Cole Caufield at every opportunity for less.

 

[BergevinBurner]

bob list out today
lottery tomorrow...
big couple days to gear up for

I have a feeling a lot of us will be in shambles when he releases the updated list lol.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

Hoping Oshawa can advance tonight by beating red-hot North Bay; to see how Sennecke performs in the finals.

Worm has really turned in that series. NB has all the mo.’

If Habs take a forward first, how about a move up into the middle of Rd one to take Henry Mews?

 

[Benstheman]

https://x.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1787488904532103541

Teaser :

Top 10 : 5 forwards and 5 Dmen
Top 15 : 9 forwards and 6 Dmen

 

[morhilane]

First time I see the name of Hage in the top 15! Finally some respect to his game.

He made a jump on the latest NHL central list, he will probably jump a little everywhere.

https://x.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1787488904532103541

Teaser :

Top 10 : 5 forwards and 5 Dmen
Top 15 : 9 forwards and 6 Dmen

Bob's list had 4 D in the top 10 mid-season, but 6 in the top 15.

And people in here doubted the D would rise.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Scott Wheeler was a scout for the Leafs, so he takes production over qualities that help you win games. Just gotta know his bias.



It's pay-walled, so I only gave the forwards since the Habs will not be drafting a defenseman.

Just to be clear, Wheeler was never a scout for the Leafs. He's always just been a writer

 

[Deebs]

He made a jump on the latest NHL central list, he will probably jump a little everywhere.


Bob's list had 4 D in the top 10 mid-season, but 6 in the top 15.

And people in here doubted the D would rise.

I don't remember reading anywhere here that there wouldn't be a lot of Dmen in the top 10.