HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Habsfan18]

THN Draft Preview 2024 arrived in my mailbox this morning.

Top 10 with “best case” NHL comps:

1. Macklin Celebrini (Elias Petterson)
2. Ivan Demidov (Mitch Marner)
3. Anton Silayev (Victor Hedman)
4. Zeev Buium (Devon Toews)
5. Sam Dickinson (Mattias Ekholm)
6. Cayden Lindstrom (Mikko Rantanen)
7. Artyom Levshunov (Jacob Chychrun)
8. Zayne Parekh (Brent Burns)
9. Tij Iginla (Brandon Hagel)
10. Konsta Helenius (Brayden Point)

Catton (Aho) and Sennecke (Kadri) are 11 and 12, for those wondering.

Keep in mind that the NHL comps have ben pretty well meaningless, historically.

 

[Xirik]

THN Draft Preview 2024 arrived in my mailbox this morning.

Top 10 with “best case” NHL comps:

1. Macklin Celebrini (Elias Petterson)
2. Ivan Demidov (Mitch Marner)
3. Anton Silayev (Victor Hedman)
4. Zeev Buium (Devon Toews)
5. Sam Dickinson (Mattias Ekholm)
6. Cayden Lindstrom (Mikko Rantanen)
7. Artyom Levshunov (Jacob Chychrun)
8. Zayne Parekh (Brent Burns)
9. Tij Iginla (Brandon Hagel)
10. Konsta Helenius (Brayden Point)

Catton (Aho) and Sennecke (Kadri) are 11 and 12, for those wondering.

Keep in mind that the NHL comps have ben pretty well meaningless, historically.

I've seen and though of the Hagel comparison of Iginla before. I think it's rather apt.

The Silayev comparison to Hedman is laughable, I'd say its older Chara with the potential of being younger Chara

The Celebrini one isn't bad but I'd say a more consistent less streaky Zibenajad at least stylistically, Definitely put up more points then Zibs.

Levshunov is more Werenski

Helenius is more chippy Suzuki

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

THN Draft Preview 2024 arrived in my mailbox this morning.

Top 10 with “best case” NHL comps:

1. Macklin Celebrini (Elias Petterson)
2. Ivan Demidov (Mitch Marner)
3. Anton Silayev (Victor Hedman)
4. Zeev Buium (Devon Toews)
5. Sam Dickinson (Mattias Ekholm)
6. Cayden Lindstrom (Mikko Rantanen)
7. Artyom Levshunov (Jacob Chychrun)
8. Zayne Parekh (Brent Burns)
9. Tij Iginla (Brandon Hagel)
10. Konsta Helenius (Brayden Point)

Catton (Aho) and Sennecke (Kadri) are 11 and 12, for those wondering.

Keep in mind that the NHL comps have ben pretty well meaningless, historically.

Comparisons are more for shits and giggles, this year's list is no different. Always fun to read though.

 

[montreal]

https://thehockeywriters.com/thw-2024-mock-nhl-draft/

 

[Xirik]

https://thehockeywriters.com/thw-2024-mock-nhl-draft/

Helenius goes 22 because...reasons.

 

[Addik04]

All 3 are risers this year.

Lindstrom and Sennecke were in Bob Mckenzie’s honourable mentions in his pre-season ranking (top 16). Iginla wasn’t mentioned.

Lindstrom played 34 games this year, not a full year. Iginla became an idea in people’s head for the top 10 near his playoffs.

Sennecke had a better year than both last year in his first OHL season.

You could argue with Lindstrom because he didnt play enough games, but I am more confident personally with the games he showed that it can be replicated. If you think Sennecke could, thats your opinion, but I need to see more.

Regarding Iginla, if you look only at the Bob McKenzie list, you are right, but if you are looking his play from the start of the year, he wasnt a riser. He is a riser regarding his 16 years old season, but because he had a bad start and then came in the second half like Sennecke.

You are entitled to your opinion as well. I just find it funny that if you don't prefer Sennecke on this board, you get attacked by the same 4-5-6 people with the same argument. You can be right and I can be wrong as well. Bookmark it and come back in 5 years.

Lindstrom would be my pick, but if he is gone and Demidov is gone as well, a dman would be my pick anyway FWIW. I havent made a list, because I didnt see enough players or I dont have enough viewings this year, only my 2 cents Lindstrom vs Sennecke vs Iginla.

 

[McGees]

THN Draft Preview 2024 arrived in my mailbox this morning.

Top 10 with “best case” NHL comps:

1. Macklin Celebrini (Elias Petterson)
2. Ivan Demidov (Mitch Marner)
3. Anton Silayev (Victor Hedman)
4. Zeev Buium (Devon Toews)
5. Sam Dickinson (Mattias Ekholm)
6. Cayden Lindstrom (Mikko Rantanen)
7. Artyom Levshunov (Jacob Chychrun)
8. Zayne Parekh (Brent Burns)
9. Tij Iginla (Brandon Hagel)
10. Konsta Helenius (Brayden Point)

Catton (Aho) and Sennecke (Kadri) are 11 and 12, for those wondering.

Keep in mind that the NHL comps have ben pretty well meaningless, historically.

Buium --> Toews is lol.
Lindstrom is more unicorn than Rantanen
Parekh--> BURNS??? wtf I'd say more Erik Karlsson
Sennecke is more Spezza
Levshunov is more Bobby Orr....like current Bobby Orr....cause he's about the same age.

 

[le_sean]

Good context. Iggy's going to be a very good top 6F in the NHL... possibly a top line star. He's been groomed well and you can just see the multiple layers in his game when you look past the goals and points.

Suzuki or Kaprisov are two I have as comparables. Some mix of the two because I think Iggy is a play making winger with grit and a 30+ goal threat. He's not just a shooter.

He’s pretty much a sniper. I don’t get the comparison as his passing isn’t anything special. He gets by, but he’s not near Kaprizov or Suzuki level.

If you want a player comparison for Iginla, it’s someone like Brandon Hagel.

 

[DemidovSZN]

You could argue with Lindstrom because he didnt play enough games, but I am more confident personally with the games he showed that it can be replicated. If you think Sennecke could, thats your opinion, but I need to see more.

Regarding Iginla, if you look only at the Bob McKenzie list, you are right, but if you are looking his play from the start of the year, he wasnt a riser. He is a riser regarding his 16 years old season, but because he had a bad start and then came in the second half like Sennecke.

You are entitled to your opinion as well. I just find it funny that if you don't prefer Sennecke on this board, you get attacked by the same 4-5-6 people with the same argument. You can be right and I can be wrong as well. Bookmark it and come back in 5 years.

Lindstrom would be my pick, but if he is gone and Demidov is gone as well, a dman would be my pick anyway FWIW. I havent made a list, because I didnt see enough players or I dont have enough viewings this year, only my 2 cents Lindstrom vs Sennecke vs Iginla.

I haven't seen anyone getting attacked. It's a message board, people exchange opinions, or inform others on things some might not know.

Iginla was a riser he was seen as a mid-round pick around january. In the optics you wanna see him be drafted at 5, he hasn't been seen as a guy who could go that high until his playoffs.

He’s pretty much a sniper. I don’t get the comparison as his passing isn’t anything special. He gets by, but he’s not near Kaprizov or Suzuki level.

If you want a player comparison for Iginla, it’s someone like Brandon Hagel.

Hagel is actually a pretty good comparison.

 

[le_sean]

THN Draft Preview 2024 arrived in my mailbox this morning.

Top 10 with “best case” NHL comps:

1. Macklin Celebrini (Elias Petterson)
2. Ivan Demidov (Mitch Marner)
3. Anton Silayev (Victor Hedman)
4. Zeev Buium (Devon Toews)
5. Sam Dickinson (Mattias Ekholm)
6. Cayden Lindstrom (Mikko Rantanen)
7. Artyom Levshunov (Jacob Chychrun)
8. Zayne Parekh (Brent Burns)
9. Tij Iginla (Brandon Hagel)
10. Konsta Helenius (Brayden Point)

Catton (Aho) and Sennecke (Kadri) are 11 and 12, for those wondering.

Keep in mind that the NHL comps have ben pretty well meaningless, historically.

Damn I swear I thought of Hagel for Iginla before even seeing this lol.

Kadri is interesting for Sennecke. They do have the similar dangles but capability to play the inside game. Hedman is a bit of a reach for Silayev. He doesn’t have near the puck skills for that. Or at least he doesn’t have the confidence for it.

 

[Redux91]

It's weird with Iginla

I feel like they're not taking him, but if they DID, I wouldn't be like 'omfg they screwed up the pick!!, they fell for the last name!', like not at all
There's lots to like about Tij actually,
For me, it's the fact he won't be 18 until August, that's always big for me compared to guys who turned 18 last November for instance
But that production is real and solid

I feel like they can't screw up the pick @ Forward either way, it's simply just about preference now at this point (And the little hope for the miracle that Demidov falls to 5, which is not 0% chance)

Honestly the stinkin draft just can't get here soon enough lol as we have obviously entered the 'over-analyzing' phase of the wait.. the worst phase lol

 

[Redux91]

MTL : #5
for
Seattle: #8 + #40

#8 = Catton, Iginla, Parekh
#26 = Basha, Parascak, Surin
#40 = Howe, Kiviharju, Massé
#57 = Bednarik, Boilard, Kleber

Pretty slick draft

Seattle will have jumped 3 spots in the TOP10..
for a 2nd round pick lol...

Somewhere Marc Bergevins head just exploded

 

[le_sean]

It's weird with Iginla

I feel like they're not taking him, but if they DID, I wouldn't be like 'omfg they screwed up the pick!!, they fell for the last name!', like not at all
There's lots to like about Tij actually,
For me, it's the fact he won't be 18 until August, that's always big for me compared to guys who turned 18 last November for instance
But that production is real and solid

I feel like they can't screw up the pick @ Forward either way, it's simply just about preference now at this point (And the little hope for the miracle that Demidov falls to 5, which is not 0% chance)

Honestly the stinkin draft just can't get here soon enough lol as we have obviously entered the 'over-analyzing' phase of the wait.. the worst phase lol

He doesn’t necessarily fit the MO of the type of player they usually want. Obviously he has the character and the Habs need goal scorers, but the size and raw talent with room for exponential growth isn’t really there.

I’d love to have him on the team, but I don’t see it happening based on what we know about Gorton/Bobrov and what they built with the Rangers and what they started with the Habs. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I'd say his IQ is elite, and his skating is pretty high end. I also like how he never backs out physically in a men's league. Could do a lot worse than a 60-70 point 2way center who doesn't shy away from physicality.

Interesting. I don't think the IQ is elite. Michkov and Demidov have Elite IQ. Helenius has good IQ. It's his best attribute, but it's still only a generous 8/10 in my view.

I understand why people like the player, but he's my least favorite potential top 10 by a mile.

 

[Redux91]

He doesn’t necessarily fit the MO of the type of player they usually want. Obviously he has the character and the Habs need goal scorers, but the size and raw talent with room for exponential growth isn’t really there.

I’d love to have him on the team, but I don’t see it happening based on what we know about Gorton/Bobrov and what they built with the Rangers and what they started with the Habs. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong.

Yeah I should clarify, IF Lindstrom and demidov are taken by then lol, THEN I'm OK with Tij

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I expect Lindstrom to be taken 6-10 range. Drop outside of the top 10? Possible but not according to my board.



Didn't Helenius play in the WC's? How did he look there with the eye test against men and an fair amount of NHL players?

He did. Seems to have hurt his stock a little, though, in his defense (surprisingly), I'm not expecting every teenager to go on a hot streak and pull a Slaf against NHLers.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

He did. Seems to have hurt his stock a little, though, in his defense (surprisingly), I'm not expecting every teenager to go on a hot streak and pull a Slaf against NHLers.

I remember Sasha Barkov, who was the best prospect out of Finland in many years at the time, looking pedestrian at best in every international tourney he'd ever played in when he got drafted. It's not always a great indication of things to come.

 

[Lockin17]

Seattle will have jumped 3 spots in the TOP10..
for a 2nd round pick lol...

Somewhere Marc Bergevins head just exploded

Well if a D like Dickinson or Saliyev that the Kraken really likem is available, that would probably be the price to pay at minimum.

 

[Gally11]

Well if a D like Dickinson or Saliyev that the Kraken really likem is available, that would probably be the price to pay at minimum.

Price would be higher for me, if that’s the price to jump 3 spots send jets pick to Chicago go #2 and call it a day lol

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

If we can't get Demidov or Lindstrom I hope it's Sennecke, I'm ready for the 3rd consecutive melt down

So, you given up on Catton?

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

https://thehockeywriters.com/thw-2024-mock-nhl-draft/

The top 12 is pretty close to what I have, that's a decent one IMO. The rest of it goes in a few weird directions, though.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

So, you given up on Catton?

I think we did interview him during the season but the writing seems to be on the wall that he'll slip out of the top 10. I'd really hope we'd be looking into trading up if that happens since he's #3 on my board.

I could see him dropping like Benson or Perreault did last year.

 

[Xirik]

Interesting. I don't think the IQ is elite. Michkov and Demidov have Elite IQ. Helenius has good IQ. It's his best attribute, but it's still only a generous 8/10 in my view.

I understand why people like the player, but he's my least favorite potential top 10 by a mile.

His best attributes IMO is that he's a puck hound and even while being a smaller center he goes hard into board batlles and seems to come up on top against bigger stronger players. He also seems to give everything he has every shift.

That's why he reminds me of Nico Hischier so much, giving it all and then coming to the bench and looking like he's about to die but when his next shift comes he's ready to go again.

 

[Lockin17]

I think we did interview him during the season but the writing seems to be on the wall that he'll slip out of the top 10. I'd really hope we'd be looking into trading up if that happens since he's #3 on my board.

I could see him dropping like Benson or Perreault did last year.

wonder if the combine is not going to help him out a bit

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

wonder if the combine is not going to help him out a bit

Problem with the combine is people argue either "he's jacked so he's physically ready and gonna dominate the NHL!" or "He needs to add weight to his frame, therefore he has more potential" when both really aren't true for the most part