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in a recent Chelios interview, he really likes Cayden Lindstrom at 2 over the Russian.
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It will be impossible not to see one of Demidov/Lindstrom/Iginla available at #5 OA with Celebrini the #1 OA pick.
There just needs ONE D to go as the #2, #3, or #4 OA pick. The quality of Ds at this year's draft practically ensures that.
Well, if Chelios said as much...
Demidov just not Chelios' big boy type of player.
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Listening to Processus, the weekly podcast on prospects involving Snake Boisvert and Matthias Brunet, his knock against Helenius is how he shows up one game and disappears the next. I don’t know if the criticism is warranted, maybe someone who has watched him closely can confirm.
No, I’m positive I’m not missing the point. I like Nick but to assume that every skilled sub 6 foot forward will be as successful as him in the NHL is foolish. The odds of a bigger player being an effective playoff performer are higher than a Nick body clone being an effective top 6 forward in the playoffs. And all things being equal, I’ll go with the bigger player usually.
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I just found it interesting, I think Chelios likes a certain type of player to go along with Bedard, a bigger guy. It makes sense
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I think Lidstrom makes more sense there if they went with a forward. They need some protection for Bedard.
But I’d go D if I were Chicago.
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honestly I probably would as well, the D is pretty sus. Goals are nice, but losing 6-5 all the time isn't going to last long in Chicago. But Chelios is probably thinking of covering Bedard with some size/skill
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Definitely not warranted from what I have seen....these guys are both clowns, especially Brunet and they are not watching him live. Helenius is a high motor player who initiates contact and plays in the dirty areas. I am no expert on Helenius but I have heard enough idiotic stuff from Boisvert to know exactly why he was only a part time scout on the fringe of the vocation. I have spoke to enough OHL scouts who do a similar job as he did and some of them are surprisingly clueless as they are on the very bottom rung of the scouting ladder and their only hope for advancement is nepotism.
The scouting community at the CHL level is rife with old school thinkers who just don't understand what they are watching and are constantly trying to stuff complex observations into their dated tropes so that they can parrot their findings back and forth to each other lol......it really is embarrassing. Listening to Boisvert, I definitely see some of this although I don't hate the guy as he is being as honest as he can be an does arrive at his own conclusions.
I would love for these two to approach Helenius' coaches with their narrative......
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Catton>Iginla and Lindstrom. They want BPA and a forward so......
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Anyone watching the intensity of battle that is the Boston/Florida series wants a larger, heavier player.
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Chicago has the 20 oa too, they can get both a top D at #2 and a 6' plus size winger in the 15-20 range (one of MBN, Hemming, Hage, etc).
Chicago are gonna be bad for a while and will have plenty of opportunities to draft/trade for bigger players. They’re not in a position to be worried about fit/size and playoffs.
Anaheim has reasons to skip on Demidov but not Chicago.
They would be stupid to pass on an offensive talent like Demidov, but I won’t complain if they do.
Anaheim has reasons to skip on Demidov but not Chicago.
They would be stupid to pass on an offensive talent like Demidov, but I won’t complain if they do.
Fair enough, but since Suzuki is built like a brick shithouse and has had nothing but playoff success, I'm sure you'd agree that just because he's 5'11 doesn't mean he's a reason or part of a reason we shouldn't draft someone.
You can obviously like a bigger prospect or project that he'll be better than a smaller prospect in the playoffs, but if you rank a 5'11 guy higher and think he'll make more of an impact in the playoffs, it makes no sense to pick your lower rated big guy because, in part, Suzuki is 5'11.
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it always comes down to having that size/grit to get you through these series, never changes. Our team in 93 had a wicked mix of size, grit, toughness, skill.. could play any way you wanted to. We abandoned that for 30 years, it showed.
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We also had the good fortune of both having the Islanders upsetting the defending Cup Champions and prohibitive Cup favorite, Pittsburg Penguins and winning 10 overtime games in that unexpected playoff run.
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It was a run of destiny! Magical run to be honest. You hear the what ifs all the time but that doesn't matter. You play who you play just like the Habs run a couple years ago.
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ChesterNimitz
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Ok. You’re crazy. I’ll take Leonard and Leshunov / Yakemchuk seven days a week and twice on Sunday.
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I mean it always takes luck, good bounces, good matchups, missed calls etc to win a cup. You don't get through Quebec being down 2 games without having that size to drive the play, and Roy in net. That leadership in 93 was undeniable, it wasn not a 'fluke' cupe, we earned it. If Wayne gets the high sticking call against Toronto, who knows how things play out.
It was a good balanced team.
I don't see any scouts agreeing that Catton is greater than either. Where have you seen this?
Scott Wheeler on Sennecke:
"Everyone saw the skill and the potential, but as one OHL coach told me, he had a lot of bad habits he needed to break, a tendency to play one-on-one too much, and wavering competitiveness. There were also benchings and off-ice questions."
"We’re just a month and a half out from that and there’s no way Sennecke is available outside the top 20 anymore. Some teams are having top-10 conversations about him.
A lot of that has just been about the consistency of his effort level, his competitiveness beginning to shine through, and the skill showing up more often because he’s more involved in games and make better choices in terms of play selection."
"Everyone saw the skill and the potential, but as one OHL coach told me, he had a lot of bad habits he needed to break, a tendency to play one-on-one too much, and wavering competitiveness. There were also benchings and off-ice questions."
"We’re just a month and a half out from that and there’s no way Sennecke is available outside the top 20 anymore. Some teams are having top-10 conversations about him.
A lot of that has just been about the consistency of his effort level, his competitiveness beginning to shine through, and the skill showing up more often because he’s more involved in games and make better choices in terms of play selection."
There's still time for him to poop in a teammate's hockey bag and subsequently drop to our winnipeg pick
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Sennecke and Yakemchuk are probably the only two players that I would aggressively move up for if they fall out of the top ten ( assuming they aren't our choice at 5OA). Both are the only two of the usual suspects in this draft who one could realistically see dropping out of the top ten. Lets see if Hughes shares my enthusiasm.
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Yeah he is pretty strong all over the ice, plays with an edge and has the skating to go along.
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