HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Kobe Armstrong]

Habs took the riser in Slafkovsky in 2022. Did the same with Reinbacher in 2023. It’s not out of this world they keep the same approach

It is funny how we can almost unanimously decide we want a guy at 5 who most everyone had ranked 15-20 a couple weeks ago

 

[Zilo44]

It is funny how we can almost unanimously decide we want a guy at 5 who most everyone had ranked 15-20 a couple weeks ago

Fans do not follow prospects closely and even if they did, have no idea how to project them in the pros and compare them throughout different leagues (OHL, NCAA, NTD program, Europe, etc).

Most opinions are based on websites or TSN experts (the latter having no idea how to scout either). These websites are sometimes several months late with respect to risers.

The only reliable list is Bobby Mac final one.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Fans do not follow prospects closely and even if they did, have no idea how to project them in the pros and compare them throughout different leagues (OHL, NCAA, NTD program, Europe, etc).

Most opinions are based on websites or TSN experts (the latter having no idea how to scout either). These websites are sometimes several months late with respect to risers.

The only reliable list is Bobby Mac final one.

But it also shows how little independent thinking there is, at least in the armchair community. At least Grant is able to put out original thoughts.

Everyone else just keeps their list the same as McKenzie with +/- 5 variance in the rankings

 

[WeThreeKings]

Fans do not follow prospects closely and even if they did, have no idea how to project them in the pros and compare them throughout different leagues (OHL, NCAA, NTD program, Europe, etc).

Most opinions are based on websites or TSN experts (the latter having no idea how to scout either). These websites are sometimes several months late with respect to risers.

The only reliable list is Bobby Mac final one.

Pronman has gotten close with his mock drafts as well. Not his personal list.

 

[Zilo44]

Last year, before the U18, no one would have believe Leonard was considered at 5

 

[WeThreeKings]

Last year, before the U18, no one would have believe Leonard was considered at 5

People just don't like names that come in late and challenge the view they've had of the draft for a long period of time.

I'm not even sure Sennecke goes top 10 let alone top 5 but he's making noise and we will see just how loud it gets.

Progression is always better than stagnation.

 

[Zilo44]

People just don't like names that come in late and challenge the view they've had of the draft for a long period of time.

I'm not even sure Sennecke goes top 10 let alone top 5 but he's making noise and we will see just how loud it gets.

Progression is always better than stagnation.

Sure just gotta be open minded

 

[absolute garbage]

I think people (certainly fans, but scouts too) get way too invested in certain names that they have been following for a while, expecting them to be picked at certain spots.

When I look at the forward group as it currently stands with an open mind, I'm seeing a lot of different possibilities. After Celebrini and Demidov the field is way open.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think people (certainly fans, but scouts too) get way too invested in certain names that they have been following for a while, expecting them to be picked at certain spots.

When I look at the forward group as it currently stands with an open mind, I'm seeing a lot of different possibilities. After Celebrini and Demidov the field is way open.

I just try to get comfortable with all the options that could be there.

Watching Iginla Sennecke Eiserman Helenius over the last bit to see if I can.

Helenius didn't.
Eiserman provides a quality, I wouldn't love it but I'd understand it.
Sennecke might have the highest upside but the floor is murky.
Iginla high floor but giving me complementary scorer vibes rather than puck dominant play driver.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I'm intrigued by Sennecke but I hope we aren't overrating or overprotecting based on a strong playoffs the way JG did with Kravtsov. I'd definitely feel a lot more comfortable drafting any of Demidov, Catton, or Lindstrom and at least one of them should be there for us.

Wouldn't touch Eiserman short of the WPG pick, and barring a trade up to ~11/12 wouldn't go for Iginla or Helenius either.

 

[Deebs]

I'm intrigued by Sennecke but I hope we aren't overrating or overprotecting based on a strong playoffs the way JG did with Kravtsov. I'd definitely feel a lot more comfortable drafting any of Demidov, Catton, or Lindstrom and at least one of them should be there for us.

Wouldn't touch Eiserman short of the WPG pick, and barring a trade up to ~11/12 wouldn't go for Iginla or Helenius either.

Sennecke is a solid player, he's just not a guy that should be picked where we are picking.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Sennecke is a solid player, he's just not a guy that should be picked where we are picking.

Why not? If Iginla is in the convo than he also belongs.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Sennecke is a solid player, he's just not a guy that should be picked where we are picking.

I saw a lot of potential in Sennecke. Would not upset at all if the Habs choose him.

Why not? If Iginla is in the convo than he also belongs.

Do you know if Sennecke used his body to hit/separate players from the puck?

 

[Deebs]

Why not? If Iginla is in the convo than he also belongs.

Many guys are in the conversation but I like Iggy more than Sennecke

 

[WeThreeKings]

I saw a lot of potential in Sennecke. Would not upset at all if the Habs choose him.


Do you know if Sennecke used his body to hit/separate players from the puck?

He's very lanky still as the growth spurt is recent, so right now he uses his skating, hands and anticipation mostly but he does not shy away from contact and the hope would be as he gets used to his frame and bulks up he would use it more. Kinda like Dach

I like Iggy more than Sennecke

That's fine just that they belong in the same convo.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

If the Habs can add Beckett Sennecke I'm thrilled. I think he's gone before they pick though.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

He's very lanky still as the growth spurt is recent, so right now he uses his skating, hands and anticipation mostly but he does not shy away from contact and the hope would be as he gets used to his frame and bulks up he would use it more. Kinda like Dach



That's fine just that they belong in the same convo.

I agree they're in the same tier, I just don't agree that we should be looking at that tier barring a trade up from the WPG pick or down from our pick.

 

[26Mats]

holly vision on Demidov.

At first watching this clip he reminded me of Malkin. Then Kucherov...

 

[Skip Bayless]

holly vision on Demidov.

At first watching this clip he reminded me of Malkin. Then Kucherov...

He's nasty. Very Kucherov like indeed.

 

[The Last Red]

I think Sennecke will go really high. Maybe 2 or 3

Are you really high? He's not going "2 or 3."

 

[Jaynki]

Sennecke does not seem popular at 5.

Sennecke or a D?

 

[morhilane]

Do you know if Sennecke used his body to hit/separate players from the puck?

To add to what WTK said, he was a puck hound who played the body before his growth spurt. This season he had to deal with coordination, balance and strength issues after growing too much too fast and that part of his game became less effective. So he moved to other tools to deal with it. He needs to fill out his new body and he's not exactly aware he's 6'3 yet.

On some other note, Sennecke might have looked like bambi on ice earlier this season, but he was 4th at the Kubota CHL top prospects skating combine. He also used to be a dmen and play both wings.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Sennecke does not seem popular at 5.

Sennecke or a D?

Sennecke. This type of player help win games.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Why not? If Iginla is in the convo than he also belongs.

Many have no clue just how skilled Sennecke is and how everything's been coming together for him since the new year. This isn't just a short term playoff streak. We're in month 5 of very dominant play.

He may be the 2nd best puck handler in this draft class (I'd probably put Demidov #1 for puck skills).

 

[absolute garbage]

I just try to get comfortable with all the options that could be there.

Watching Iginla Sennecke Eiserman Helenius over the last bit to see if I can.

Helenius didn't.
Eiserman provides a quality, I wouldn't love it but I'd understand it.
Sennecke might have the highest upside but the floor is murky.
Iginla high floor but giving me complementary scorer vibes rather than puck dominant play driver.

Fair, but it's not like you can't say similar things about Lindstrom and Catton.

Those are the 6 guys "in the conversation", right?