HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[DramaticGloveSave]

No he doesn't have a thick frame...Newhook is stockier than I think he will ever be.

Newhooks size was a big knock on him his draft year.

Thats two inches below average. If what you say is that his size isn't a concern, I can agree.

He’s still at an age where guys are growing and their body is developing. If we assume he’s 5’11” 170 something pounds that’s pretty average sized for a draft eligible player I’d say.

 

[The Great Weal]

Maybe not 199lbs but Catton could get to 190lbs at 5’11”

Still doubt it. Newhook and Suzuki are very stocky guys, they are not the norm for players of that height. Not saying Catton needs to be that size to be good (look at Jarvis for example) but gaining that much size at that frame in a short period of time is very difficult.

 

[Goalfield13]

Probably 11-16, but you have to ask yourself if you had the 13th pick why would you trade down into the mid 20s?

San Jose did it in 2022 because it was a bad draft class and they were in a complete tear down rebuild and had given their previous first for Karlsson so their cupboards were bare. I don't see a similar situation existing this year.

The teams in that range all want to push for playoffs (same as us) and want players who will impact their team ASAP or in San jose's case already have a lot of quantity (multiple firsts and 2nds in the coming years). So you'll have to offer a roster player like Roy or Xhekaj to get them to budge, which we shouldn't do.

Why not bundle the pick with one of our D prospects like Struble? We have a log jam at D.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Still doubt it. Newhook and Suzuki are very stocky guys, they are not the norm for players of that height. Not saying Catton needs to be that size to be good (look at Jarvis for example) but gaining that much size at that frame in a short period of time is very difficult.

Doesn’t have to be a short period of time, give him a couple years. 6’ 190lbs is realistic.

 

[Goalfield13]

Newhook is the same size as Crosby, sans 1 lb, and he has speed to spare. He is not small.

 

[Rapala]

Parekh is a shooter, buium is basically Hutson only a few inches taller. Parekh is more Mailloux than Hutson.

It's why I don't see us taking either, but if I had ti choose, it's Parekh

Yup we'd really need two top 10 picks to take a flyer on one of the D men.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

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Love him but he's not average size. He's small, seen here pictured with two massive horses.

Both Martone and Dickinson are listed at 6’3” so Catton being 5’11” looks about right.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Both Martone and Dickinson are listed at 6’3” so Catton being 5’11” looks about right.

Probably no chance since we will be picking 9-15 next year but I'd love to get Porter Martone next year.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Probably no chance since we will be picking 9-15 next year but I'd love to get Porter Martone next year.

I can’t deal with another failure season. Think we got very fortunate with our tank this year, but next year we should be in the mix to make the playoffs or some seats are going to get hot.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I can’t deal with another failure season. Think we got very fortunate with our tank this year, but next year we should be in the mix to make the playoffs or some seats are going to get hot.

Yeah which is why we won't get him, but I would love him, great hands on that big boy

 

[Deam78]

Searched the net for NHL comparables, not really any bad picks just more on what fits best if they all hit their ceiling - sure would be nice to hit a lottery spot though

1. Celebrini - Toews
2. Demidov - Kuckerov-Lite
3. Lindstrom - Byfield (also saw PLD...)
4. Catton - Jack Hughes/Marner
5. Iginla - Kreider
6. Helenius - Aho
7. Eiserman - Kessel

Interesting they would compare Lindstrom to Byfield & PLD as he actually remind me of another LA Kings: Adrian Kempe

 

[montreal]

I'd take Parekh 10 times out of 10 over Buium.

I'd take Buium over Parekh

 

[crosbyshow]

Newhook is not average sized, he's like 200lbs. Catton probably isn't going to gain 30lbs.

So what. Catton is a lot better than Newhook and he will probe that even in the NHL.

At 175 to 182 pounds..it wii be well enough for him cause his skills is IQ are elite

 

[jaffy27]

Probably no chance since we will be picking 9-15 next year but I'd love to get Porter Martone next year.

The Calgary pick at 2

Have faith my friend

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

So what. Catton is a lot better than Newhook and he will probe that even in the NHL.

At 175 to 182 pounds..it wii be well enough for him cause his skills is IQ are elite

They aren’t very comparable I was just trying to paint a picture that Catton isn’t what I would call small. I’d say he’s relatively averaged size like Newhook. Newhook is stockier but Catton is probably a little taller. Newhook is listed 5’11 199lbs while Catton probably ends up around 6’ 190lbs.

 

[skidcells]

The Calgary pick at 2

Have faith my friend

It’s top 10 protected next year so if it ends being 2 they keep it

 

[Saxon]

Still doubt it. Newhook and Suzuki are very stocky guys, they are not the norm for players of that height. Not saying Catton needs to be that size to be good (look at Jarvis for example) but gaining that much size at that frame in a short period of time is very difficult.

You know who else is built like that… Helenius!

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

You know who else is built like that… Helenius!

I’ve compared Helenius to Suzuki before.

 

[HURRICANES ROCK]

People need to fully understand how good Catton is and has been. This isn’t just a guy putting up points in the WHL, this is a guy who was a 1st overall pick in the WHL… captained Canada to gold at the U17… captained Canada to gold at the U18s last year… this is a guy who’s been elite at every level he’s played. And then just look at his production this past year, not many draft eligibles have put up the monster seasons in junior the way he just did.

Kid is a great player, has been and will continue to be at the next level.

If he was 6'1" and 180 lbs he would go #2.

 

[The Great Weal]

So what. Catton is a lot better than Newhook and he will probe that even in the NHL.

Ok. That's not the argument. He's not the same size as Newhook and probably never will be. Treating Newhook as any other 5'10/5'11 player is outrageously disingenuous.

 

[Mrb1p]

If he was 6 feet and 180 lbs he would go #2.

No he wouldn't. Even if we want to make the size argument, Demidov is just better in every capacity.

Ok. That's not the argument. He's not the same size as Newhook and probably never will be. Treating Newhook as any other 5'10/5'11 player is outrageously disingenuous.

While that is true, it's also true that Newhook and Suzuki are just, shorter than average and sometimes they get outmuscled, so it's even worse when you take into account a stick figure like Catton.

So today it's Catton that's the flavor of the week. Nice, like clockwork every monday we have a different one.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

If he was 6 feet and 180 lbs he would go #2.

I’m saying 6’ 190lbs is what he’ll likely end up as. That’s pretty average size.

My point is just he isn’t “small”.

 

[The Great Weal]

While that is true, it's also true that Newhook and Suzuki are just, shorter than average and sometimes they get outmuscled, so it's even worse when you take into account a stick figure like Catton.

I'm not against Catton, I don't think you can deny the skill and IQ. He doesn't need to get to the Newhook/Suzuki size, you look at a guy like Jarvis who's more comparable in terms of size and it's not holding him back. That being said Jarvis has that dawg in him. He's an absolute bull dog, and I think Helenius is kind of like that too with how he's handling a men's league. I'm not sure Catton is cut from the same cloth.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm not against Catton, I don't think you can deny the skill and IQ. He doesn't need to get to the Newhook/Suzuki size, you look at a guy like Jarvis who's more comparable in terms of size and it's not holding him back. That being said Jarvis has that dawg in him. He's an absolute bull dog, and I think Helenius is kind of like that too with how he's handling a men's league. I'm not sure Catton is cut from the same cloth.

Yeah Jarvis and Helenius are actually a very good comp I didn't think about. Catton is a lot more like Cooley.

I’m saying 6’ 190lbs is what he’ll likely end up as. That’s pretty average size.

My point is just he isn’t “small”.

He is small, just like Demidov is. Gotta stop going around the pot and sit on it. You pick him if you think he's good, not because you believe he could gain 4 inches in height at 19 years old.

 

[HURRICANES ROCK]

Probably 11-16, but you have to ask yourself if you had the 13th pick why would you trade down into the mid 20s?

San Jose did it in 2022 because it was a bad draft class and they were in a complete tear down rebuild and had given their previous first for Karlsson so their cupboards were bare. I don't see a similar situation existing this year.

The teams in that range all want to push for playoffs (same as us) and want players who will impact their team ASAP or in San jose's case already have a lot of quantity (multiple firsts and 2nds in the coming years). So you'll have to offer a roster player like Roy or Xhekaj to get them to budge, which we shouldn't do.

No he wouldn't. Even if we want to make the size argument, Demidov is just better in every capacity.



While that is true, it's also true that Newhook and Suzuki are just, shorter than average and sometimes they get outmuscled, so it's even worse when you take into account a stick figure like Catton.

So today it's Catton that's the flavor of the week. Nice, like clockwork every monday we have a different one.