GDT: 2024 NHL Draft Talk - Picked 2nd, 18th, 27th, 67th, 72nd, 92nd, 138th, & 163rd Overall

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I don't like Lev because I don't think he's got the upside of some other guys and he's not even the really good safe pick. That's Buium.

 

[Taze em]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806427201593561401

This guy understands the vision.

 

[deytookerjaabs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806427201593561401

This guy understands the vision.

Legit worried that pro sports trolls like what you just linked are being paid to spread this stuff. That account is WWE style hormone-aimed drivel.

 

[KaraLupin]

Not gonna belabour it any more after this but one last time.

I think the most baffling part about this whole saga to me is how much I literally just don't see it with Levshunov. Every other top prospect in this draft I can see the tantalizing abilities that, if all goes well, can make them superstars one day

Demidov: you might not even find a player in most drafts with his hands, puck skills and offensive IQ
Buium: his ability to manipulate defenders and make plays out of nothing is remeniscint of Fox
Lindstrom: size, skating, great soft skills, very heavy shot, can score from distance or create separation with his stickhandling.
Silayev: lower on him, but with his size and skating combo he could be Vlasic on steroids and be the best defensive dman in the world one day

Lev's just..meh. Honestly, I don't care about his stats. Players can have seasons where bounces go perfectly for them and frankly I would bet against Levshunov putting up similar point totals next year. Adam Larsson had a monster, HISTORIC D-1 in the SHL yet his point totals were cut in half in the next season.

He does the simple things well. Good first passes. Can get the puck to the net from the blueline with low wrist shots. Moves well in a straight line and you can see the tools needed for him be a strong rush defender.

But man, those aren't star qualities. He doesn't carry the puck much up the ice. He doesn't walk the blueline and utilize four way mobility to force defenders to adapt. He doesn't have a booming slapshot from the point. He loses battles and board postioning to more competitive players far too frequently. And to top it all off, he's not even THAT big or THAT fast.

For all the people saying "its easier to trade for/sign a high scoring winger". Oh yeah? Tell that to Carolina, who's probably a 100 point winger away from making the Cup Final with no conceivable way of acquiring one any time soon. Tell that to a team like Winnipeg who hasn't had a player hit 100 points since moving back in 2011.


I know drafting is so subjective, but everything is set up for KD to make a slam dunk pick in Demidov. It's the consensus pick. It fills a bigger need. He's over 6 foot and probably plays at 200 pounds. He's as talented a winger as you'll ever see at the top of the draft board.

Please KD just overlook the skating thing for once

Well said.

 

[Kevin Musto]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806427201593561401

This guy understands the vision.

A Vlasic-Silayev pairing would do that.

A Vlasic-Levhsunov pairing, much less so.

 

[Taze em]

There’s a Demidov or two in every draft. Literally Michkov, Ryabkin next year. Before that it was Cooley. Before that it was Kent Johnson before that it was Stutzle. Theres always skilled mid size wing/centers. This isn’t “your last chance”.

Compounded by the fact that you haven’t seen him in apples to apples competition for years. He can’t even skate at the Milstein because he’s hurt.

The biggest daddy hack swing you can take in the draft is for one of the best 15 Defensemen in the NHL. Thats what you need to win, what we don’t have, and why I don’t understand calling Lev the “safe” pick. There is a conga line of skilled 6 foot wingers. Shots at that D are priceless.

 

[Taze em]

And btw, you can have your Buium walking the line. Parekh PPQB. Dickson skating like the wind. Slayevs reach. Yalemchucks booming shot. They all possess individual skills better than Levshunov. But you look at those skills from Wheelers or others list and Lev is 2nd or 3rd in most everything. I’ll take a jack of all trades over a specialist 10 times out of 10.

 

[Kevin Musto]

There’s a Demidov or two in every draft.

You can say that about every player in this draft except for Silayev. I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[Hawkaholic]

And btw, you can have your Buium walking the line. Parekh PPQB. Dickson skating like the wind. Slayevs reach. Yalemchucks booming shot. They all possess individual skills better than Levshunov. But you look at those skills from Wheelers or others list and Lev is 2nd or 3rd in most everything. I’ll take a jack of all trades over a specialist 10 times out of 10.

I think Dickinson is more of a jack of all trades than Levshunov.

 

[hawksrule]

War Admital Buium played on the best American team and the best college team while Seabiscuit Levshunov dragged a 3 player team (Howard, Augustine, Levshunov) through the big ten with a +26 and one point off the teams point lead. And looked chaotic good doing it. Just needs some coaching to tug on the reigns.

Buium isn’t War Admiral, he’s Secretariat.

 

[Taze em]

Buium isn’t War Admiral, he’s Secretariat.

Drug test him!

 

[Taze em]

I think Dickinson is more of a jack of all trades than Levshunov.

I bet Davidson loves Dickinson too. Would bet big money he’s number 4 on their list. The D in this draft are fantastic, no doubt. Pluck one off and move on to the 2025 Power Forward Tree.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I have accepted fate, Levshunov is our pick

I wish it wasn't so but it is. Now the question is what we do at #18

If Jiricek is there I actually am on the double up on RD train unless big name falls to #18

If Hage or Chery slide into early 20's and you can find a partner, then parting with #34 + #50 would be great move

Walk away with 3 1st rounders for our prospect pool and start looking towards 2025 draft which we are again well positioned with two 1st's + two 2nd's

 

[Taze em]

I have accepted fate, Levshunov is our pick

I wish it wasn't so but it is. Now the question is what we do at #18

If Jiricek is there I actually am on the double up on RD train unless big name falls to #18

If Hage or Chery slide into early 20's and you can find a partner, then parting with #34 + #50 would be great move

Walk away with 3 1st rounders

Love it. Lev jiricek and one of those two is a great draft.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

There’s a Demidov or two in every draft. Literally Michkov, Ryabkin next year. Before that it was Cooley. Before that it was Kent Johnson before that it was Stutzle. Theres always skilled mid size wing/centers. This isn’t “your last chance”.

Compounded by the fact that you haven’t seen him in apples to apples competition for years. He can’t even skate at the Milstein because he’s hurt.

The biggest daddy hack swing you can take in the draft is for one of the best 15 Defensemen in the NHL. Thats what you need to win, what we don’t have, and why I don’t understand calling Lev the “safe” pick. There is a conga line of skilled 6 foot wingers. Shots at that D are priceless.

Again I don't feel like Levshunov is ever going to be a top fifteen defenseman in the national and agreed he's not the safe pick that would be the better eighteen year old with a winning pedigree.

 

[Fantomas]

Don't see the appeal of Levshunov. Unimaginative player, decision-making skills not those of a future #1 dman. No signs that he's a future PP1 quarterback. You're basically drafting a guy who's at best a complementary first pairing dman. At best.

Conversely Buium has high-end offensive skills and physicality. I can see the justification for him over Demidov at least. Likewise with Lindstrom, because he's big (unlike Bedard, Nazar and many of the Hawks' youths). Levshunov would be such a mistake by the Hawks.

 

[Kevin Musto]

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

If you're picking at two with a consensus one you don't need to work this hard at setting up a smoke screen. You just take your guy.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

Don't see the appeal of Levshunov. Unimaginative player, decision-making skills not those of a future #1 dman. No signs that he's a future PP1 quarterback. You're basically drafting a guy who's at best a complementary first pairing dman. At best.

Conversely Buium has high-end offensive skills and physicality. I can see the justification for him over Demidov at least. Likewise with Lindstrom, because he's big (unlike Bedard, Nazar and many of the Hawks' youths). Levshunov would be such a mistake by the Hawks.

If only we could change the whole Blackhawks scouting department and replace it with a punch of hfboards members.

What if Demidov will be next Nikita Filatov? Who knows, let´s not pretend here that we know better. People are reflecting their feelings into opinions. Blackhawks make their pick based on data that they have gathered from these youngsters for several months. Still it could go wrong. Let´s not declare what the outcome will be. Wait and see.

 

[Fantomas]

If only we could change the whole Blackhawks scouting department and replace it with a punch of hfboards members.

Ok, sweet. Might as well shut this place down, oh wise one.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Two things. One, I don’t understand why we’ve given up on Korchinski being the future #1 PP QB of this team. That’s his bread and butter. We don’t necessarily need to draft one at 2.

Two, why is everyone so convinced there are top 15 defenders available in this draft? Until recently, all these guys had major flaws that would prevent them from being that. If the number 2 pick has a similar result to Ekblad with better skating, hats not a bad outcome at all.

 

[CallMeShaft]

As Disgruntled said, there really isn't a need to use a smokescreen for that pick.

But maybe Kyle's just a troll who loves to create chaos league wide. That's my hopium take until he officially calls out Levshunov's name.

 

[Kevin Musto]

As Disgruntled said, there really isn't a need to use a smokescreen for that pick.

But maybe Kyle's just a troll who loves to create chaos league wide. That's my hopium take until he officially calls out Levshunov's name.

 

[Bubba88]

Won't go wrong with either... forget about help for next season, both won't be there for another year. Don't think about position, need RHD as well as Top6 Winger.

Just relax and hope the guy Kyle picks will develop.

We will get better, we will see improvement and we will pick high again next season.

 

[Darkstar]

I have accepted fate, Levshunov is our pick

I wish it wasn't so but it is. Now the question is what we do at #18

If Jiricek is there I actually am on the double up on RD train unless big name falls to #18

If Hage or Chery slide into early 20's and you can find a partner, then parting with #34 + #50 would be great move

Walk away with 3 1st rounders for our prospect pool and start looking towards 2025 draft which we are again well positioned with two 1st's + two 2nd's

If Lev is the pick, then I definitely want forwards with our next two picks. I'd still like Chernyshov at 18 and maybe package 34 and 50 to move up a get Surin. I think both of them could be 2nd line talent.