jc17
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2024 NHL Draft Picks 14, 42, 43, 76, 108, 109, 161, 172, 204 (Draft on 6/28 and 6/29)
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jc17
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The physicality and willingness to be creative with the puck (despite maybe not having everything figured out yet) reminds me of Nikishin a little, although I remember a bigger sample size from Nikishin
SundherDome
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Feel like I have said this before but I hate how the NHL blitzes their off-season.
Have the combine June 14th - 16th
Have a holiday freeze the day before l, the day of and the day after July 4th
Have the draft July 12th through the 14th
Have free agency start August 5th.
Feels like giving some time in between events would curate more activity.
Just my 2¢
Have the combine June 14th - 16th
Have a holiday freeze the day before l, the day of and the day after July 4th
Have the draft July 12th through the 14th
Have free agency start August 5th.
Feels like giving some time in between events would curate more activity.
Just my 2¢
SundherDome
Y'all have to much power
Old Navy Goat
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I am tending toward guys who like the contact. And he seems to manage just fine even against fully grown humans.
Pronman's latest list of 129, broken into tiers:
Zman5778
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Saw this earlier. I'm surprised that Lindstrom has dropped to 10 in his list. Wonder if that's a common thing with his injuries?
Also Sennecke over Demidov is certainly a choice.
Pronman has gone from small and flashy to being a bit sizest so it's interesting to see him slot Demidov in that fourth tier with Sennecke and Catton but have Lindstrom a tier lower.
Zman5778
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If Lindstrom slips to 11 because the GMs ahead of us are spooked off by his injuries...........I hope Adams does cartwheels all the way to the podium to take him.
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Last year there was a very real scenario where I wasn’t going to be left with anything I had after a certain tier. It almost happened too. If Arizona took Benson at 12 we were going to be left with a big drop for me on players I liked. And from Benson specifically to what was there…a massive drop.
Can’t really happen this year. I like (almost all) the guys that probably go 5-15 pretty much the same. And there are a lot of profiles in there that we do not have.
Of course…Catton could fall because size rises again. All the D goes and someone takes Helenius because they’re more certain on his future as a C. Or whatever reason great players keep falling to us. And that’s great too.
dickiedunnwrotethis
It's gotta be true.
I think this list is less how much he legitimately likes a guy and more on NHL scout influences. Other than the Bobfather, I think he's most connected guy in the scouting world.
Doug Prishpreed
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Im seeing other criticism about his game beyond the injuries. Here’s from Steve “draft analyst” Kouruanos:
“Although he centered a potent line alongside fellow 2024-eligible and playmaker extraordinaire Andrew Basha, Lidstrom served as either a shooter option or the net-front presence — two areas he dominated to the tune of 27 goals in only 32 games. But concerns do exist beyond his hand and back injuries that shortened his season, beginning with the fact that he mustered only 19 assists for a 0.59 assists-per-game average that is among the lowest from a top-rated WHL first-year-eligible forward in the last 11 years. Central Scouting never budged on ranking Lindstrom third in either of their North American skater lists, but the aforementioned concerns make him less of a guarantee.”
MarkusKetterer
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Pronman is as connected to the scouting world as you or I are. At least he’s gotten away from his “top 6 forward” or “top 4 Dman” model. For the most part
Same here, but I think it’s very likely he’s gone to the Habs at #5.
Doug Prishpreed
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You’re talking out of you ass, amigo. He literally mentions all the time how his regular conversations with scouts at games impact his rankings and thoughts about certain players.
Anyone who goes to games a lot can talk to scouts, you don’t need “connections.” They’re just dudes watching games and probably love talking about it.
Jim Bob
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Cole Eiserman is the 2024 NHL Draft’s biggest wild card
Today on Daily Faceoff Live, prospect analyst Steven Ellis explained why Eiserman is this year’s biggest wild card
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I agree with this. I think there is lots to debate about Pronman’s rankings, but he does a better job than most of factoring in what is likely to happen vs. his own own personal rankings.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
I was at development camp and saw Pronman chatting with scouts from various teams-I heard him ask their opinions about different players. Just fyi--I assume he uses the eye test, analytics, and opinions from insiders he trusts--but still the whole draft list is tinged with subjectivism.
Zman5778
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I think that Pronman used to come out with 2 mock drafts close to the draft -- a mock that is based solely upon what he hears from others and then a mock based solely on what he thinks a team should do/what he would do.
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