i meant at the 2023 Habs camp, specifically, and in comparison to the 2022 camp where he was a late cut.
Prospect Info: 2024 Montreal Canadiens Development Camp
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That was a bone they threw at Beck for his hard work during camp nothing more.
I felt in 2023 there just weren't going to be any openings no matter what. Players do have a sense for this and even discuss it amongst themselves.
Case in point for me was Norlinder who had a very good camp last season but was never going to crack that left side.
His start in Laval was putrid and he never got much better he just knew his window was done as far as making the big club went.
I would have loved to see him double down and push for a trade with good play but he just fizzled.
i still think he underwhelmed at camp last year. i remember him just not having any sort of presence on the ice - a Jacob De La Rose type of impact.
i'm not discounting his past season, or playoffs and i'm looking forward to seeing what he brings this year.
It seems to me Beck talks about the Habs decision to send him back for one more season in a very good interview posted here just recently.
My guess is he knew this long before camp was done. His camp was unremarkable but it didn't have to be.
You will see a Balls to the Wall Owen Beck in camp this season.
The article clearly defined just how much our development crew (Byron) worked with him all season long which says much IMO.
The Habs will certainly use him with NHL wingers in pre-season games to see exactly where he's at.
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Beck seems like one of those rare kids that has a super rich father/parents/family that has nice genes and they managed to raise the kid right and not to be a spoiled bitch who has no respect for anyone and thinks they're tough because of money they're related to.
I was fast forwarding through the YouTube and saw they were talking to someone and was like "is that a member of staff, or did they decide to interview someone's dad ? "
It was Florian.
I was fast forwarding through the YouTube and saw they were talking to someone and was like "is that a member of staff, or did they decide to interview someone's dad ? "
It was Florian.
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EP hasn't updated mem cup mvp yet, still only shows up to 2023.
Beck was fine...the only difference between his camp in 2022 and his camp in 2023, is fans weren't expecting a lot in 2022. He was a new prospect, in 2023, fans expected more.
He's still the same solid prospect he's always been.
What's fascinating to me is I can actually see the bricks being added, a brick at a time. We can see the house being built.
We witnessed Slaf developing last year, so that's on a micro level but then also the team, macro level.
Previously it was ad hoc, building on the fly. So it's who are the centres, where do we get them ? Kid brought up , why ? Hey kid, work on your skating and we'll see in a couple of months.
There definitely seems to be more drafted pieces than before. At the very least, drafted pieces of a similar age group.
He needs to redevelop. Good idea by Brendan.
Gally actually seems to have slimmed down a bit. Might be able to skate for 40 seconds now.
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I have always felt our drafting was not that bad but development was atrocious. It seems like this thread is changing now. This is one of the best news in the past decades.
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That’s not Gally, that’s the weird dude that jumped on the ice against Theo years ago and went on a breakaway. Pfff.
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It's a combination of both. We drafted too many "mature" and low ceiling players while completely butchering the development of the skilled ones.
That's how you end up with Chipchura, McCarron and Tinordi not being impact players while having Scherbak, Beaulieu and Galchenyuk (he had good moments but his development was a tragedy) busting.
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We really need to hire Therrien for player development so they can not only become good players but also become good people.
I prefer Hughes way of evaluating "5 stars human beings" personally.
Going back to Gainey we were a minus of one 1st and minus 3 2nds during his tenure. MB was about even I think with the top rounds. Because of the rebuild we definitely have more draft picks and most importantly 1sts and 2nds.
But the quality of drafted player has greatly improved. Timmins started keying in on skill more so I think his last couple of years here are much better than his average. The present manager is looking for speed, skill, IQ etc.
Before in D+1,2,3 you would see kids flat line in their development and year after year more kids were gone until at D+4 maybe you had one kid hanging on and he was a bottom pair D or tweener at best.
Now, with the drafting and actual development of players ( Gainey drafted some decent guys but Jacques Martin especially stunted several of them and MB of course chose coaches who didn't believe development was in their job description at all ) there are players actually improving and we have prospects who can become 1st line players.
But the quality of drafted player has greatly improved. Timmins started keying in on skill more so I think his last couple of years here are much better than his average. The present manager is looking for speed, skill, IQ etc.
Before in D+1,2,3 you would see kids flat line in their development and year after year more kids were gone until at D+4 maybe you had one kid hanging on and he was a bottom pair D or tweener at best.
Now, with the drafting and actual development of players ( Gainey drafted some decent guys but Jacques Martin especially stunted several of them and MB of course chose coaches who didn't believe development was in their job description at all ) there are players actually improving and we have prospects who can become 1st line players.
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Hughes and Gorton are clearly shrewd managers doing a great job, but comparing eras is tough. Did Gainey and/or Bergevin got the green light to rebuild from Gillett & Molson? Probably not.
Timmins struggled drafting forwards but let's not pretend like he had obvious opportunities like Slafkovsky and Demidov. Galchenyuk was probably the right pick, and Kotkaniemi was a mistake but this spot was a bit of a crapshoot. The 2024 equivalent was if Svechnikov had fallen to 3rd overall. There were people who wanted Tkachuk but there were people who wanted Zadina.
His best opportunity was probably the 2003 draft but it was early in his career and I always liked Andrei Kostitsyn. The fact that several franchise players ended up drafted after him in an outlier draft looks bad but it is what it is.
Gainey got us Alex Kovalev, gets a free pass on that alone. And Gainey took over the team after the darkest period of its history. His real job was to bring some pride and enthusiasm back to the franchise and I think he succeeded, along with Pierre Boivin's masterful job in marketing.
Timmins struggled drafting forwards but let's not pretend like he had obvious opportunities like Slafkovsky and Demidov. Galchenyuk was probably the right pick, and Kotkaniemi was a mistake but this spot was a bit of a crapshoot. The 2024 equivalent was if Svechnikov had fallen to 3rd overall. There were people who wanted Tkachuk but there were people who wanted Zadina.
His best opportunity was probably the 2003 draft but it was early in his career and I always liked Andrei Kostitsyn. The fact that several franchise players ended up drafted after him in an outlier draft looks bad but it is what it is.
Gainey got us Alex Kovalev, gets a free pass on that alone. And Gainey took over the team after the darkest period of its history. His real job was to bring some pride and enthusiasm back to the franchise and I think he succeeded, along with Pierre Boivin's masterful job in marketing.
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Damn that develpment team is on a whole other level
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