GDT: 2024 Free Agency - July 1st - 12 P.M.

[Nubmer6]

I miss Rico and would've been fine with that deal as a stop-gap. To quote Banshees of Inisherin: "Well, there goes that dream."

It's over

 

[Guttersniped]

4th liner with 40+ points the last two season and 21 and 18 goals in those seasons. Maybe a 3rd liner fine, which at this point you take and see if you can make someone work on the wing with Jack. Those two seasons were on Seattle and the Red Wings not exactly super strong teams. Id be willing to bet IF he can work, Jack would be his best center hes played with in a while.

Its it a reach maybe but it would be cheap so why not. If you can find a trade.

Its better then nothing doesnt work he is a depth player who is scratched.

Also if i recall he has a pretty good shootout record.

Wingers don’t have a lot of defensive responsibilities, but they have some defensive responsibilities, and you can’t have an offensive blackhole on your top line.

Sprong makes more sense on teams not serious about winning but if he’s sheltered he can burn opposing teams’ weakest lines.

He’s not playing with Jack. Jack can’t cover for him defensively.

He’s bad at everything but skating and scoring, does dumb things all the time and plays like soft butter. Lots of teams have tried to fix his game and it didn’t work.

Remember the things Holtz got criticized for? Those are Sprong’s jam. He loves being weak on puck, weak on the back check, making horrific giveaways.

After all his blather about “hockey players” I would bet real money Sprong isn’t a guy Fitz is interested in.

 

[njdevils1982]

If Edmonton's next GM is half as competent as Jackson, McD and Drai aren't leaving.

I miss Rico and would've been fine with that deal as a stop-gap. To quote Banshees of Inisherin: "Well, there goes that dream."

don't lose sight of the 'prize'

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[Ol Dirty Bstrd]

Wingers don’t have a lot of defensive responsibilities, but they have some defensive responsibilities, and you can’t have an offensive blackhole on your top line.

Sprong makes more sense on teams not serious about winning but he if he’s sheltered he can burn opposing teams’ weakest lines.

He’s not playing with Jack. Jack can’t cover for him defensively.

He’s bad at everything but skating and scoring, does dumb things all the time and plays like soft butter. Lots of teams have tried to fix his game and it didn’t work.

Remember the things Holtz got criticized for? Those are Sprong’s jam. He loves being weak on puck, weak on the back check, making horrific giveaways.

After all his blather about “hockey players” I would bet real money Sprong isn’t a guy Fitz is interested in.

Couldn’t agree more. I’ll prob get killed for this but what about Tyler Johnson as a middle 6 Swiss Army knife for cheap? Gives positional flexibility. Not sure if he’s totally cooked.

I also wouldn’t mind Lizotte as a 4th line center who could move up to the 3rd in a pinch. Hate the idea of using Lazar as a full time center and we are one injury or Haula promotion away from using him or Cotter as a 3C.

Really not much out there, holding out hope for the Colton dream like everyone else.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Sprong basically has the on ice impact of miles wood if miles wood wasn’t addicted to bad penalties.

I wouldn’t pay a ton for that guy, but he’s worth a couple million bucks if you want to goose your bottom 6 with some scoring.

 

[Guadana]

Something around Casey+ for McGroaty just seems to make a lot of sense

Next year first would help, but we dont have it.

 

[Triumph]

Couldn’t agree more. I’ll prob get killed for this but what about Tyler Johnson as a middle 6 Swiss Army knife for cheap? Gives positional flexibility. Not sure if he’s totally cooked.

I also wouldn’t mind Lizotte as a 4th line center who could move up to the 3rd in a pinch. Hate the idea of using Lazar as a full time center and we are one injury or Haula promotion away from using him or Cotter as a 3C.

Really not much out there, holding out hope for the Colton dream like everyone else.

Johnson could be a placeholder until the trade deadline, but I don't know that he should be getting ice time on a playoff team.

Lizotte signed with Pittsburgh late last night.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Carolina lost a LOT of guys now that I’m looking at it fully, damn. They really should take a step back.

Which means they’re absolutely putting up 110 points.

 

[ndkjr70]

Next year first would help, but we dont have it.

next years first in addition to casey would be a wild overpay

 

[Guadana]

next years first in addition to casey would be a wild overpay

Casey is small defenseman from the second round. Next year should be around 15-25. Its a price for big player who was drafted by 14th pick and overproduced in NCAA. Its just a price. Of course Casey has more value than he was on the draft but still it is what it is.

 

[Mgd31]

Pretty hilarious Tampa signed Hedman to the same contract Stamkos got from Nashville

 

[Better Call Sal]

Carolina lost a LOT of guys now that I’m looking at it fully, damn. They really should take a step back.

Which means they’re absolutely putting up 110 points.

They're fully a team that I expect to stay competitive as long as Rod is behind the bench. He has gotten so much out of that team ever since he took the job.

 

[MasterofGrond]

They're fully a team that I expect to stay competitive as long as Rod is behind the bench. He has gotten so much out of that team ever since he took the job.

Yeah he's great.

That is a LOT of roster turnover, though, and it's only going to be worse next year.

 

[Nubmer6]

Casey is small defenseman from the second round. Next year should be around 15-25. Its a price for big player who was drafted by 14th pick and overproduced in NCAA. Its just a price. Of course Casey has more value than he was on the draft but still it is what it is.

McGroarty wants out. We're trading from a position of strength. They're not going to get full value for him.

 

[ndkjr70]

Casey is small defenseman from the second round. Next year should be around 15-25. Its a price for big player who was drafted by 14th pick and overproduced in NCAA. Its just a price. Of course Casey has more value than he was on the draft but still it is what it is.

Jesper Bratt was a 6th round pick, think we can get a 5th for him?

 

[Guadana]

Jesper Bratt was a 6th round pick, think we can get a 5th for him?

Before start of the first NHL season? He would not be traded for the 1st round player. I know what you mean, I understand that. But its just how market value works. I think Casey could be traded for solid first rounder not from top-10. But McGroarty picked his value much more on this stage.

McGroarty wants out. We're trading from a position of strength. They're not going to get full value for him.

And yeah, this is the only reason why McGroarty havnt "top level prospect" value.
Casey plus late first isnt top value.

And of course if Fitz will trade McGroarty for Casey one for one, I will be very happy. For now I think Jets wants more and have a reason to ask more.

You should understand Im quite high on Casey. He is our third best prospect, he had great NCAA tenure and now he is signed(reason why he should be very attractive for Jets). Still he isnt Ty Smith profile type of player - he is fast on the short distance with great hands, he stands well on his legs so it should help him at least for secondary role to be competent enough.
But it isnt still big power forward with ~50 points in ~30 games in NCAA in his second year.

From the Devils perspective I would everything beside Silayev, Gritsyuk... may be Daws and Yegorov. I dont know what Im thinking about it really. Of course Im not saying about "Brady Tkachuk package" of three future firsts, Casey, Lenny, our houses and retirement savings we heard few days ago. If Jets like Casey as a main piece from our side - Fitz should try to offer some secondary benefits. If they dont - I dont see what we can offer.

 

[Nubmer6]

Before start of the first NHL season? He would not be traded for the 1st round player. I know what you mean, I understand that. But its just how market value works. I think Casey could be traded for solid first rounder not from top-10. But McGroarty picked his value much more on this stage.

And yeah, this is the only reason why McGroarty havnt "top level prospect" value.
Casey plus late first isnt top value.

And of course if Fitz will trade McGroarty for Casey one for one, I will be very happy. For now I think Jets wants more and have a reason to ask more.

You should understand Im quite high on Casey. He is our third best prospect, he had great NCAA tenure and now he is signed(reason why he should be very attractive for Jets). Still he isnt Ty Smith profile type of player - he is fast on the short distance with great hands, he stands well on his legs so it should help him at least for secondary role to be competent enough.
But it isnt still big power forward with ~50 points in ~30 games in NCAA in his second year.

From the Devils perspective I would everything beside Silayev, Gritsyuk... may be Daws and Yegorov. I dont know what Im thinking about it really. Of course Im not saying about "Brady Tkachuk package" of three future firsts, Casey, Lenny, our houses and retirement savings we heard few days ago. If Jets like Casey as a main piece from our side - Fitz should try to offer some secondary benefits. If they dont - I dont see what we can offer.

Question: is McGroarty really a fit here? Yes, he's a highly skilled power forward, but I've heard questions about his skating speed. Are they overblown? Would he be able to keep up?

 

[Guadana]

Question: is McGroarty really a fit here? Yes, he's a highly skilled power forward, but I've heard questions about his skating speed. Are they overblown? Would he be able to keep up?

I didnt watch him this year in NCAA. In his draft year he wasnt good skater but he could be fast when it needs, his hands were great and his puck protection was great. From what I saw in his predraft, I remember he had interesting offensive and forechecking potential in o zone, good cycling tools. Of course not as great two way potential. But I believe some guys saw his actual games, how he developed, I will try to find some tapes and watch him. May be its not the perfect fit, but Im not very "more speed" only guy, I like players who is very good in cycling. I see this as a bigger part of the modern game. So McGroarty on my taste is a good piece to trade for.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808164277855084847

This seems terrible?

 

[Devils Trap]

I must say, this whole Trouba ordeal is absolutely hilarious

From proclaiming he will be easy to move, to the realization that he holds all the cards and their pants are down is lovely stuff

 

[HBK27]

Looks like Drury is finally cooking...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808163422888251471

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Looks like Drury is finally cooking...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808163422888251471

Signed Fitz's son to get him to trade a bounty for Trouba, you genius bastard Drury

 

[MartyOwns]

Looks like Drury is finally cooking...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808163422888251471

 

[Clam Jensen]

Looks like Drury is finally cooking...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808163422888251471

This constitutes as “learning how to boil water”

 

[megajake]

Man I can't think of a better fit for us to round out the top 6 then McGroarty. He will be on a very cheap contract, plays a game we lack at the forward position, and can grow and become a core piece for a very long time..

Bratt-Nico-Timo
McGroaty-Hughes-Mercer
Palat-Haula-Nosen
Cotter-Lazar-Foote/Bastian

is a phenomenal offensive group imo. Pushing Palat/Cotter down a line makes everything look better. That would be one of the best 3rd lines in the league imo.