2024 Draft Thread - Friday June 28 and Saturday June 29 - Sphere Las Vegas

[TheMadHatTrick]

That Anaheim deal looks good to me.

I'm not in favor of trading down for the sake of trading down (e.g., Travis Konecny was right there!), but I have about 2-3 players I really want at 23 and if they're gone then there's a bunch of fungible guys I equally like so why not trade down a bit to pick up an extra pick or two.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I'm not in favor of trading down for the sake of trading down (e.g., Travis Konecny was right there!), but I have about 2-3 players I really want at 23 and if they're gone then there's a bunch of fungible guys I equally like so why not trade down a bit to pick up an extra pick or two.

Oh absolutely if their guy is there just march up to the podium and be done with it.

 

[Thornbury]

Potential trade down scenarios based on pick values.

To Calgary
23 (16.01)
To Toronto
28 (12.50) + 62 (3.36)

To Anaheim
23 (16.01)
To Toronto
31 (10.87) + 58 (3.82) + 100 (1.24)

To Montreal
23 (16.01)
To Toronto
26 (13.77) + 78 (2.08) + 198 (0.13)

Sign me up for the Anaheim deal. Trading down in this draft would make infinite sense for the Leafs, given the fact that there doesn't seem to be much variance between the abilities of prospects between 20 and 40.

 

[Kiwi]

I'm not in favor of trading down for the sake of trading down (e.g., Travis Konecny was right there!), but I have about 2-3 players I really want at 23 and if they're gone then there's a bunch of fungible guys I equally like so why not trade down a bit to pick up an extra pick or two.

Trade down, Surin is being mocked around 30 odd

So take him then a defenseman with the 2nd

Profit

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Trade down, Surin is being mocked around 30 odd

So take him then a defenseman with the 2nd

Profit

Surin is one of the 3 guys I really want at 23. The Athletic has him gone by 27 so it's close. The Russia factor might push him down just enough. My decision would be easier if he's gone by 23 along with Luchanko and Solberg. We could get Elick or Emery at 31 and still have two more picks between 70 and 100.

 

[LaPlante94]

Surin is one of the 3 guys I really want at 23. The Athletic has him gone by 27 so it's close. The Russia factor might push him down just enough. My decision would be easier if he's gone by 23 along with Luchanko and Solberg. We could get Elick or Emery at 31 and still have two more picks between 70 and 100.

I saw something the other day showing that the Russian factor isn't that big anymore and a bigger problem is the American factor. Actually crazy because it does seem like more American/NCAA players refuse to play for the teams they get drafted by and force themselves to either get traded where they want to go or play out their NCAA eligibility so they become FA.

 

[Kiwi]

I saw something the other day showing that the Russian factor isn't that big anymore and a bigger problem is the American factor. Actually crazy because it does seem like more American/NCAA players refuse to play for the teams they get drafted by and force themselves to either get traded where they want to go or play out their NCAA eligibility so they become FA.

Luckily for us that works in our favor

When was the last time an American kid didn't want to play for us and refused to sign?

Hell, we're usually in on those kids

 

[horner]

I'm not in favor of trading down for the sake of trading down (e.g., Travis Konecny was right there!), but I have about 2-3 players I really want at 23 and if they're gone then there's a bunch of fungible guys I equally like so why not trade down a bit to pick up an extra pick or two

The latter half of the fist rd and the 2nd rd is loaded withe defenceman a 2nd rd pk would be great

 

[francis246]

Luckily for us that works in our favor

When was the last time an American kid didn't want to play for us and refused to sign?

Hell, we're usually in on those kids

Haha so true. A lot of the time those kids are American born, Canadians. Ex Canadian NHLers who have settled in the states or are coaching in the states. Rutger McGroarty is half American, half Canadian. Huge leafs fan, wanted to be drafted by the leafs. I hope the leafs make a move to get him

 

[LaPlante94]

Yeah I think

Luckily for us that works in our favor

When was the last time an American kid didn't want to play for us and refused to sign?

Hell, we're usually in on those kids

Yeah. Some of the trades I've seen online for McGroarty though seem steep for someone in the NCAA still and has pretty much threatened to play out his NCAA eligibility.

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah I think

Yeah. Some of the trades I've seen online for McGroarty though seem steep for someone in the NCAA still and has pretty much threatened to play out his NCAA eligibility.

I think he wants to come out but pretty much everybody is going to be in on him so Chevy can sit on his hands and play everybody off against each other

I don't think he's going to be cheap

At least #23OA + Minten

 

[ULF_55]

Next 4 days are going to take forever, and then they'll trade the pick.

 

[LaPlante94]

I think he wants to come out but pretty much everybody is going to be in on him so Chevy can sit on his hands and play everybody off against each other

I don't think he's going to be cheap

At least #23OA + Minten

Yeah idk what I'd want to give up for him. I've seen some say he can play C but I only remember him playing LW for Michigan. Idk if I'd want to give up the 1st for him if he's a LW that we already have a bunch of atm. You'd hope Robertson would be enough.

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah idk what I'd want to give up for him. I've seen some say he can play C but I only remember him playing LW for Michigan. Idk if I'd want to give up the 1st for him if he's a LW that we already have a bunch of atm. You'd hope Robertson would be enough.

Power forward, big boy, scores

I'd be willing to give up a bit for him, his ECL hasn't started yet he's still 20 and I like the thought of having him and Knies in the top 6

Give us a whole new dimension

 

[LaPlante94]

Power forward, big boy, scores

I'd be willing to give up a bit for him, his ECL hasn't started yet he's still 20 and I like the thought of having him and Knies in the top 6

Give us a whole new dimension

Oh yeah, I'd like him around definitely. It'd just be hard to give up the 1st round pick when the positions we lack in the prospect pool are both available where we pick and a few to choose from.

 

[horner]

Will Skahan D 6' 4" 200 lbs
Mean really good skater loves to hit defensive dman
50 to 80 pick

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Surin is one of the 3 guys I really want at 23. The Athletic has him gone by 27 so it's close. The Russia factor might push him down just enough. My decision would be easier if he's gone by 23 along with Luchanko and Solberg. We could get Elick or Emery at 31 and still have two more picks between 70 and 100.

I'd lump Hage and Boisvert in with that 1st group as well and then look at Beaudoin, Freij, or one of the many RHD available in a trade down scenario.

 

[SprDaVE]

Selfishly hope they keep the pick. But i also hope they get busy so I'm all for trading the pick to get a good player too

 

[ULF_55]

Selfishly hope they keep the pick. But i also hope they get busy so I'm all for trading the pick to get a good player too

If McGroarty played center or defense ...

Could you even land a bonafide young defender with 23rd. overall? Maybe at the deadline as part of a multiple piece transaction. Really different than a non-proven college winger.

Leafs timeline is now, not 4 years down the road.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think he wants to come out but pretty much everybody is going to be in on him so Chevy can sit on his hands and play everybody off against each other

I don't think he's going to be cheap

At least #23OA + Minten

Personally, I would do it

Although I would immediately be trying to parlay Robertson and Jarnkrok into 2nd rounders or a couple of 3rds (even if they're in 2 different draft classes).

I'd add a 5th rounder on top to get it done if need be.

McGroarty, Knies, Cowan, Grebyonkin and Nylander....between Nylander and 4 of those kids, you have your top 6 wingers set.

 

[francis246]

I think he wants to come out but pretty much everybody is going to be in on him so Chevy can sit on his hands and play everybody off against each other

I don't think he's going to be cheap

At least #23OA + Minten

I don’t think it’s going to cost what you’re suggesting!

 

[francis246]

If McGroarty played center or defense ...

Could you even land a bonafide young defender with 23rd. overall? Maybe at the deadline as part of a multiple piece transaction. Really different than a non-proven college winger.

Leafs timeline is now, not 4 years down the road.

Yes this is the best year to draft a defenseman. At 23 you could get a top 4 guy and a RHD at that too.

 

[REALTALK81]

The more I hear about EJ Emery the more I think he will be a good fit for us if Solberg is gone before 23. He's a true shut down D man who skates like the wind. 6'3 and around 200 pounds, the guy is jacked. There are 15 drills in total. He was in the top 10 in 8 drills, top 5 in 7 drills, and 1st in 4 drills (body fat %, horizontal jump, vertical jump, and no arm vertical jump). He is probably the best conditioned prospect. He's considered the best rush defender in the draft by dobberprospects. Also an adequate cycle defender. Loves to hit but is not always looking for the big one; he picks and chooses wisely. His offensive production isn't the greatest but he still managed 16 points (all assists) in 61 games for the NTDP and had 6 assists in 7 games in the Under 18's (Cole Hutson was his partner).

Would be a great option, especially considering that Tre has made it clear we are looking for big, strong, shut down D for playoff style hockey.

I wanted this guy from jump. Seems like almost every year the Leafs pass on a big Dman. I wanted guys like Carlo, Schneider when they were drafted. Dubas and co went with other players but Tre might be more inclined to take someone like EJ.

 

[REALTALK81]

We have been saying this for 5 yrs we have one one rd.
We have no dman in the system , we have traded every pk to go for it , it hasn't worked out.
With what McDavid is doing shows that greatness can carry a team .
I have never seen mathews rise to these hieghts.
We need to build a defense.

or

Grab a forward with the most potential and trade one of our young players to grab said dman
Ljiligren
Robertson
Minten
Grebyonkin

We need to build a competant Dcore for once and then draft forwards. Chicago's reign started with Seabrook in my opinion. Leafs should look at that model.

 

[Kiwi]

I don’t think it’s going to cost what you’re suggesting!

I hope your right and I'm wrong and we get the kid, he'd be a nice add

I love those Power Forward types