Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[Gally11]

He's not coming back, as it should be. Very dumb to burn a year off an ELC of a superstar for a lost season. This is some very short sighted thinking. Very HF Habs.

Development is more important than cap implications as we saw with Reinbacher last year, that being said getting extra training in and practicing with that squad with the occasional game is similar to an NCAA schedule so it’s not all doom and gloom from not playing

 

[BLONG7]

He's not coming back, as it should be. Very dumb to burn a year off an ELC of a superstar for a lost season. This is some very short sighted thinking. Very HF Habs.

Your opinion.....imagine the audacity of others who disagree.
Maybe some habs fans are tired of the team being garbage since 2017? And would like to look forward to a superstar in the making playing for our team??
Burn a year?? Like that matters to a rich organization like the habs.....

Maybe we need to ask, how does the player feel?? Is he miserable playing for a donkey coach?
Does he feel he could be better developed under the eye of the team in Laval? Montreal?

 

[Sorinth]

Do you truly wish to burn his first year rookie contract for 20 games? Demidov with his rookie contract from 2025 to 2028 could be huge advantage for us. It would give us more cap space for trade in 2027-2028.

Well his immediate departure would mean 50ish games not 20, but the question we should ask isn't what's best cap wise, it's what's best development wise. And getting out of his 10min a game situation and playing in the NHL is going to be best for his long term development.

 

[rahad]

He's not coming back, as it should be. Very dumb to burn a year off an ELC of a superstar for a lost season. This is some very short sighted thinking. Very HF Habs.

They can't wait to see ''the shinny new toys!'' Demidov next contract is could be 9m+ (with caps going up). If the Habs try to make a deep playoff push in 2028 , having him in his rookie contract will be a huge advantage for us.

 

[Boyon90]

ok.

 

[morhilane]

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ok.

That's accurate, even if he's bragging to his local media.

The SKA Arena opened in 2023 with a 21 152 seats capacity, beating the Bell Center by ~50 seats.

 

[Next Best Thing]

HE can't come over this year for the sake of the tank. A few games of Demidov won't make a difference in his career but an other top 5 pick would be tremendous overall.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Well his immediate departure would mean 50ish games not 20, but the question we should ask isn't what's best cap wise, it's what's best development wise. And getting out of his 10min a game situation and playing in the NHL is going to be best for his long term development.

10 mins.. it's more like 5-6 no?

 

[Sorinth]

10 mins.. it's more like 5-6 no?

His current average is 10:48 per game, but my understanding is that it varies so yes there are games of 5min but also games of 15min.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

His current average is 10:48 per game, but my understanding is that it varies so yes there are games of 5min but also games of 15min.

Alright thanks for the info. It's not as bad as I thought honestly. But still pretty bad, he should be playing at least 15+ on average

 

[sampollock]

Your opinion.....imagine the audacity of others who disagree.
Maybe some habs fans are tired of the team being garbage since 2017? And would like to look forward to a superstar in the making playing for our team??
Burn a year?? Like that matters to a rich organization like the habs.....

Maybe we need to ask, how does the player feel?? Is he miserable playing for a donkey coach?
Does he feel he could be better developed under the eye of the team in Laval? Montreal?

True
We all have opinions

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

He's not coming back, as it should be. Very dumb to burn a year off an ELC of a superstar for a lost season. This is some very short sighted thinking. Very HF Habs.

Looks like burning a year worked out great for Caufield, gonna work out great with Hutson and should be the same with Demidov, although it won't happen in his case.

It's actually quite the opposite. The sooner you can sign a superstar longterm, the better off you'll be down the road because the cap keeps going up. Short sighted is thinking the ELC is the gravy.

A longer ELC means more time for the player to completely breakout and more money you risk paying down the road, which is worth a lot more than that single ELC rebate year you're burning.

Also, it's not a "hfhabs thing" as many teams have done that, including Hughes purposefully burning one year on Hutson. I'm glad he did it because that has the potential to save us a few mil on the cap. We'll be paying Hutson 7-8 mil per instead of 8-9 or more a year later.

Demidov's ELC will also inevitable carry bonuses, making the rebate small compared to what you can cummulatively save year after year by signing him earlier.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

They can't wait to see ''the shinny new toys!'' Demidov next contract is could be 9m+ (with caps going up). If the Habs try to make a deep playoff push in 2028 , having him in his rookie contract will be a huge advantage for us.

It's a one year advantage. I'd rather bank on signing them early to have many years of smaller rebate, rather than that one year where everything needs to fall into place at the same moment.

 

[cphabs]

Get him over here now. ASAP. Not for improved standings but to adjust. Geopolitics as well. My .02

 

[Adam Michaels]

As much as I want Demidov ASAP, him coming over this year means he can't win his Calder

But we're making the playoffs and winning the Cup baby!

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Lol. Nobody above Rotenberg gives two craps about Demidov.




‘Discussion’ is a better translation. Basically, Rotenberg is gonna meet with Lecavalier and whoever else is there from Montreal.

Hughes & Bobrov were with Lecavalier. There's a photo of the 3 of them with Rotenberg.

 

[sampollock]

Smoke maybe
Why would they all go over?

 

[MeanMugging91]

Smoke maybe
Why would they all go over?

They did say they were going to go over and see him in action at some point this season. I doubt it's to bring a buffle bag full of cash to get him over.
I'm thinking its more likely to show Demidov how invested they are in him coming over to Montreal next year and to not get tempted into signing a year contract to get more the 4th line minutes. Maybe pump RR tires a little to get him a little more playing time. Could also be to smooth something over to alow him to join the habs after the khl season finishes and not wait till the actual contract end may 31.
Guess it's all speculation but I just don't see how they would allow him to come over mid season