2024 2nd Overall Artyom Levshunov

-5 through 3 games....
Lol talk about showing your bias. The kid has been playing great as agreed by everyone who have actually watched the game.
Anyways, disregarding the troll, Lev seems super smart with the puck as shown in the Ben Pope clip above. Im sure once he starts being more aggressive it’ll leas to some growing pains but nice to see that he does have the ability to play a more quiet game at his base.
 
Hes an absolute horse. Its so nice to have someone else to focus on each shift. Its pretty bleak right now for Bedard. I didnt know if he was gunna be AHL or NHL to start next year but its pretty clear. First pair Vlasic-Levshunov until the wheels fall off.
 
Lol talk about showing your bias. The kid has been playing great as agreed by everyone who have actually watched the game.
Anyways, disregarding the troll, Lev seems super smart with the puck as shown in the Ben Pope clip above. Im sure once he starts being more aggressive it’ll leas to some growing pains but nice to see that he does have the ability to play a more quiet game at his base.
Except for the coach who said he played "OK"...Seth Jones was booted out of town for a -18 on the season. Lev would be on pace for a -45.
 
the hawks have a -8 even strength goal differential in the last 3 games. it was -4 before the canucks game.

levshunov over those 3 games (his first in the nhl at 19 years of age) is a -5. he also has a primary assist and the most even strength minutes on the team. it's a very small sample, and play time is a very limited metric as i've said many times, but it's worth noting that only 4 rookie skaters have played 60 or more minutes through 3 games since 2000-01. the list is levshunov, shakir mukhamadullin, jack ahcan, and brian pothier. any eyetesters out there want to confirm for me that levshunov isn't looking like he tops out as jack ahcan? thanks a bunch.
 
Also, he is still a kid. 2nd youngest nhl player (turned 19 like a mont ago)playing the toughest position. 5th league in 3 years or so. He is a quick study and a stud to be. Anyone pulling something like +\- shows that they have not watched one minute of this kid playing. He has been very good, as ALL pundits have said. Except for one buffoon on this site .
 
Plus/Minus is a flawed stat. As has been mentioned here already, he's been on the ice for two empty net goals against, which is a big part of him being a -5. The majority of the defense in the Canucks game left with a -2 or -3. Only Murphy (+2) and Kaiser (0) didn't end up with a -2 or worse that game. It was just a bad game. And that bad of a game, from an entire team, has a big impact over a small sample size, which three games is.

He's looked decent. Really solid in game 1, outside of maybe the last ten minutes where the high minutes from Martinez's injury started to really show. Game 2 he looked a lot less comfortable IMO, and looked like what I expected him to look like in game 1. Game 3, he held his own relatively well. The entire team got their face caved in, but he had some really solid shifts, including the one in the clip from Pope on the previous page.

I do not think he's shown that he's ready for a full time NHL gig yet. He had one really solid showing and one where he looked good enough relative to the rest of the defense, but not good enough that I didn't think he could use more time in the A when watching the game. Then he had a pretty bad game (game 2).

He may very well have more good games in the next week or two and force management to keep him up. But it's okay if he doesn't. Lev has a long history of starting a season in a new, tougher league, and struggling for the first few months until he adapts and excels in that league before getting bumped up to a tougher league after that season. This season, he's sorta broken that cycle by not only playing in the AHL, but also getting games in the NHL.

He's looked good at points already. Just wait until he finally adapts to the NHL.

Also, think it's hilarious that the guy who called lev a future bottom 6 guy at best is trying to talk shit in here. I cringe for you, OldScool.
 
Plus/Minus is a flawed stat. As has been mentioned here already, he's been on the ice for two empty net goals against, which is a big part of him being a -5. The majority of the defense in the Canucks game left with a -2 or -3. Only Murphy (+2) and Kaiser (0) didn't end up with a -2 or worse that game. It was just a bad game. And that bad of a game, from an entire team, has a big impact over a small sample size, which three games is.

He's looked decent. Really solid in game 1, outside of maybe the last ten minutes where the high minutes from Martinez's injury started to really show. Game 2 he looked a lot less comfortable IMO, and looked like what I expected him to look like in game 1. Game 3, he held his own relatively well. The entire team got their face caved in, but he had some really solid shifts, including the one in the clip from Pope on the previous page.

I do not think he's shown that he's ready for a full time NHL gig yet. He had one really solid showing and one where he looked good enough relative to the rest of the defense, but not good enough that I didn't think he could use more time in the A when watching the game. Then he had a pretty bad game (game 2).

He may very well have more good games in the next week or two and force management to keep him up. But it's okay if he doesn't. Lev has a long history of starting a season in a new, tougher league, and struggling for the first few months until he adapts and excels in that league before getting bumped up to a tougher league after that season. This season, he's sorta broken that cycle by not only playing in the AHL, but also getting games in the NHL.

He's looked good at points already. Just wait until he finally adapts to the NHL.

Also, think it's hilarious that the guy who called lev a future bottom 6 guy at best is trying to talk shit in here. I cringe for you, OldScool.
I cringe at you. How's that. Time will tell.
 
I cringe at you. How's that. Time will tell.
Nice rebuttal. Taking what I said and attempting to throw it back at me. Sorta like what you did to Pez when he said to piss off. Do feel free to use your own retort, don't have to just copy what we say to you.

The reason I'm cringing hard at your posts is because just days ago, you mention how you think Levshunov will top out as a "bottom 6 type", despite the fact that 'bottom 6' in hockey implies the bottom two forward lines and not involving the defense, which only has 6 guys playing on it on a given night. After getting corrected on that point, you mention how you believe Lev's ceiling to be that of a 3rd pairing guy, which is a far cry from what any paid hockey pundits believe. Lev is getting NHL games in his D+1 season. He's got size. Skating. Was 3rd in shots on goal in the AHL at the time he got called, despite being the 2nd youngest player in that league. He's the only defender from the 2024 draft that has gotten any NHL games so far. Not to mention he's an RHD, which is always highly coveted in this league.

Maybe he busts, but that would be unlikely. Even the more pessimistic takes about him still project him to be, at worst, a solid middle pairing defenseman. Which that would be disappointing, given his draft position, but still quite a bit better than your (or your friend's) prediction that he'll be a bottom pairing guy (or as you would put it a "bottom 6 type").
 
Why do you guys care so much what a random fan has to say lol

Not everyone's going to like your team's top prospect, why waste energy
 
Just for shits and giggles 5x5, Makar vs Lev. And yes, I understand it's a small sample size.

COLTeamCHI
DPositionD
3GP3
58:23TOI56:23
19:27TOI/GP18:47
67.83CF/6057.46
50.36CA/6052.14
57.39CF%52.43
48.3FF/6041.5
39.05FA/6035.12
55.29FF%54.17
25.69SF/6024.48
27.75SA/6022.35
48.08SF%52.27
2.06GF/600
2.06GA/603.19
50.00GF%0.00
2.07xGF/601.72
2.04xGA/601.7
50.36xGF%50.31
24.66SCF/6017.03
26.72SCA/6021.28
48.00SCF%44.44
9.25HDCF/607.45
12.33HDCA/607.45
42.86HDCF%50.00
0HDGF/600
2.06HDGA/601.06
0.00HDGF%
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[th]Cale Makar[/th][th]Artyom Levshunov[/th]
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