2024-25 World Junior Championships Draft Scoring

[iCanada]

This may well be the worst performance by a Team Canada team in tournament history. That said I think it is less on the kids and more on management.

Just for fun - team Cbnbdb;

Cristall - Heidt - Sennecke
Wood - Hage - Mistelbacher
Iginla - Misa - Greentree
Finnie - O'Reilly - Sawchyn
Misa, Barkey, Walton

Bertucci - Parekh
Mynio - Yakemchuk
Smith - Allen
Brunicke, Marelli

It's actually remarkable how much talent, size, speed, and physicality we left at home for this tournament. That's what - four of the top ten scorers in the ohl, two of the top ten scorers in the dub, two of the top five scorers in the NCAA, plus another six high energy physical two way guys that consistently outscore?

Then you also factor in the guys not taken are like 3" and 20 lbs bigger than the guys that made the team on average...

Atleast 3 D that can reliably get pucks up ice and to the net, as well.

Idk man. Certainly the PP would have been better, and I don't think they could have taken any more penalties.

To be fair, I suppose iginla is injured, but he didn't even get a camp invite before that.

 

[K1984]

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on the players on the team and the players left off, but when people that are familiar almost universally panned this roster from the get go, you know something is probably off.

What idiots like Scott Salmond and Dave Cameron don't seem to understand is if you make moves that on the surface make zero sense to even causal observers, you better be right. Instead this group did what basically anyone with an informed opinion predicted.

Arrogance from two clowns (Salmond and Cameron) that have been hanging around the junior program like a bad smell for way too long. Moves like not inviting players like Beckett Sennecke to camp period can be described as nothing other than a form of "f*** all of you, I know more" type of arrogance more than anything else. Even if you don't have a good initial impression of the player, not inviting a guy like that to camp is stupid and arrogant.

Cameron doesn't hold a position he can really be "fired" from, but for whatever reason this joke of a coach seems to be tapped on the shoulder almost annually for this, and that needs to be no more. Salmond needs to go, been around Hockey Canada for too long, then backed up a QF loss with this travesty in front of a home crowd to boot. If he isn't walked something is very, very wrong.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Too little too late, needed it against Latvia unfortunately. Then needed it earlier last night. What a terrible team structure without a game plan or practices.

Nail on the head, there was probably enough talent, but that lack of focus, effort and structure, just killed them.

 

[Slats432]

Dave Cameron right now, maybe, probably.

 

[Oilhawks]

This may well be the worst performance by a Team Canada team in tournament history. That said I think it is less on the kids and more on management.

Yup. Team Canada is run like a Country Club nowadays (Bobby Burgers is another clue). Hopefully this punch to the mouth shows there are some changes needed (I'm still doubtful).

 

[bellagiobob]

That’s a relief. Carry on.

 

[North]

That’s a relief. Carry on.

Well he did answer…replace the GM.

 

[K1984]

That’s a relief. Carry on.

Glad he thought it was best to give more ammunition to the folks that should fire him.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Would be like if we traded Hyman for Cal Clutterbuck and Draisaitl for Pierre Luc Dubois and said "well we didn't make the playoffs because look there are 16 other teams that can win!"

Dumbass.

 

[iCanada]

Yup. Team Canada is run like a Country Club nowadays (Bobby Burgers is another clue). Hopefully this punch to the mouth shows there are some changes needed (I'm still doubtful).

I thought last year was the punch in the mouth.

 

[iCanada]

Glad he thought it was best to give more ammunition to the folks that should fire him.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Would be like if we traded Hyman for Cal Clutterbuck and Draisaitl for Pierre Luc Dubois and said "well we didn't make the playoffs because look there are 16 other teams that can win!"

Dumbass.

Don't need more ammunition - we finished 8th twice in a row under his watch.

We scored two more goals then Kazakhstan this year with an additional game played for Christ's sake.

When you have those results and you left behind several guys dominating 23 year olds, a guy on pace to break WHL scoring records, the 3rd overall pick in the last year's draft, three or four top flight PP QB Dmen, and several other players on pace for 130 points in the OHL... You should get shit canned.

Embarrassing how all the adults here seem to be avoiding accountability with the media when the children interviewed right after what was probably the most crushing loss of their entire lives seemed perfectly capable of admitting they weren't good enough and needed to be better. Shameful that these adults taking a salary are throwing these children playing for the love of the game and nothing but pride hope and dreams under the bus. It's kind of a disgrace, tbh.

 

[K1984]

Don't need more ammunition - we finished 8th twice in a row under his watch.

We scored two more goals then Kazakhstan this year with an additional game played for Christ's sake.

When you have those results and you left behind several guys dominating 23 year olds, a guy on pace to break WHL scoring records, the 3rd overall pick in the last year's draft, three or four top flight PP QB Dmen, and several other players on pace for 130 points in the OHL... You should get shit canned.

Embarrassing how all the adults here seem to be avoiding accountability with the media when the children interviewed right after what was probably the most crushing loss of their entire lives seemed perfectly capable of admitting they weren't good enough and needed to be better. Shameful that these adults taking a salary are throwing these children playing for the love of the game and nothing but pride hope and dreams under the bus. It's kind of a disgrace, tbh.

No shit.

How hard would it be to say "of course we should have done things differently, we finished 8th and I don't think you'll find many people thinking we're the 8th best U19 nation in the world. We had a vision and it didn't work and that's on us." In no way does that throw the players under the bus or anywhere close either.

Instead "duuuuuh other teams can win too!"

 

[Soli]

Time to move on. There are thread topics on other boards if you want to dwell on the Team Canada aftermath.

 

[iCanada]

No shit.

How hard would it be to say "of course we should have done things differently, we finished 8th and I don't think you'll find many people thinking we're the 8th best U19 nation in the world. We had a vision and it didn't work and that's on us." In no way does that throw the players under the bus or anywhere close either.

Instead "duuuuuh other teams can win too!"

Or even something general like idk - "I don't want to get into the specifics, but I think given the result - it's clear the staff here at Hockey Canada, starting with myself, needed to do a better job preparing for this tournament. There's a number of things to reflect on, and we'll do better job going forward."

 

[Jumptheshark]

Okay comes a trigger for some of you,

I posted on the main discussion board and it pissed off a few posters.

For me, the reaction of many Canadians shows our arrogance and entitlement in how we think we will win every tournament. We bitch and complain that we would have won if players y.x and z would have been put on team. Mean while down playing the play of the other teams. I admit. I am bias as living in Europe and watching a lot of European games gives me a slightly different perspective on things. I have lived in Europe for over 20 years now and have seen how the game has changed over here during that time. Some posters just do not understand, the game over here has changed and European countries are adapting quicker to the North American style of hockey and really get up against team Canada. In some cases that is the only game some teams care about

 

[Jumptheshark]

Looks like Soli is the one who takes the biggest hit with Canada being out

 

[Cerebral]

Looks like Soli is the one who takes the biggest hit with Canada being out

I lose my goaltender, two of my top three forwards, and my second defenceman - I am cooked.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Looks like Soli is the one who takes the biggest hit with Canada being out

I lose my goaltender, two of my top three forwards, and my second defenceman - I am cooked.

I have lost my #5 forward and #3 defenseman. Though Sumpf has scored just as many points for me as Perrault.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Cool, my goalie is playing today. His is losing right now but he is playing

 

[Soli]

Cool, my goalie is playing today. His is losing right now but he is playing

He's not playing, but give it a bit, Thelin is trying to shit the bed.

 

[Paralyzer008]

THC is probably the favourite but Mozes is right there.

 

[Jumptheshark]

He's not playing, but give it a bit, Thelin is trying to shit the bed.

I have Gidlof in net. He might get yanked but that happens

 

[Soli]

I have Gidlof in net. He might get yanked but that happens

You have Gidlof riding the bench.

 

[Jumptheshark]

You have Gidlof riding the bench.

TSN.CA has him in net?

finland sweden

Previews, Game Summary, Boxscore and Highlights

www.tsn.ca

 

[tardigrade81]

Wow Finland to the gold medal game

Bad goal to swedens goalie to give up

 

[Soli]

TSN.CA has him in net?

finland sweden

Previews, Game Summary, Boxscore and Highlights

www.tsn.ca

I like TSN, but we've never used them for scoring, and I now see why. Use the iihf site.

Anyways, Thelin was definitely in net.