2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[snowkiddin]

I had a dream last night that we signed Toews and traded Barlow, three 1sts, Stanley, and Nino for Crosby.

When I woke up, I realized if this actually happens I’d be dropping like $600+ combined on jerseys. But, anyway:

Connor Scheifele Vilardi
Ehlers Crosby Perfetti
Barron Lowry Iafallo
Namestnikov Toews Kupari

Morrissey DeMelo
Samberg Pionk
Fleury Miller

Helle

And since we’re in fantasy mode, let’s just say the salary ends up working

 

[raideralex99]

Only 30 more days to go to put an end to this fictional stories.
If McDavid does not win the Cup this year I heard Gretzky is coming out of retirement to join the Oilers.

 

[Buffdog]

Montreal is nuts....

The Basu & Godin Notebook

Patrik Laine is more likely to replace Nikolaj Ehlers in Winnipeg than to play with him in Montreal. – Arpon Basu. We don’t know if Laine would agree to go back there, and his no-trade clause means he’ll have a say in all this. But in a world where the Jets are letting Ehlers go, maybe picking up a guy like Laine would make sense.

We know that over there, the third line (Adam Lowry’s) plays a lot, which makes it easier to “hide” a player like Laine in the line-up and deploy him mostly with the man advantage. And if the Habs are willing to withhold 50% of Laine’s salary, who knows if the Jets wouldn’t be interested in bringing him back at a rather modest cap hit of $4.35 million.

Before Patty was dealt to MTL, I was in the "maybe he'd be a worthwhile reclamation project for the right price"...

But after his performance last season, I have less than zero interest in ever seeing him in a Jets uni again

 

[surixon]

Before Patty was dealt to MTL, I was in the "maybe he'd be a worthwhile reclamation project for the right price"...

But after his performance last season, I have less than zero interest in ever seeing him in a Jets uni again

Yup, if they have already soured on him after half a season there is no way our org is remotely interested.

 

[raideralex99]

Yup, if they have already soured on him after half a season there is no way our org is remotely interested.

Seriously I don't know how any NHL team would want to trade for him or sign him ... he hasn't changed.
He has to put in the work to get better ... he thinks his shot gives him a free pass.

 

[GNP]

Seriously I don't know how any NHL team would want to trade for him or sign Laine... he hasn't changed.
He has to put in the work to get better ... he thinks his shot gives him a free pass.

Laine is really a very lazy hockey player to put it simply. Does not play with any passion or desire, and I don’t see that changing. He’ll keep shuffling from team to team, until his out of the NHL, and that’s likely imminent.

We don’t need a player like him, no matter how cheap he’s available at.

 

[Turin]

As a former big fan, Laine bums me out. I've never seen a skill guy be obviously worse at hockey at 25+ than he was at 18. He came into the league so young and he had so much time to work on his flaws as a player and they all got worse instead of better. With his shot, hands and passing he could have become what Pastrnak is now. Instead he got slower, softer, and more injury prone.

 

[Daximus]

As a former big fan, Laine bums me out. I've never seen a skill guy be obviously worse at hockey at 25+ than he was at 18. He came into the league so young and he had so much time to work on his flaws as a player and they all got worse instead of better. With his shot, hands and passing he could have become what Pastrnak is now. Instead he got slower, softer, and more injury prone.

Yeah he disgusts me, such a massive waste of size and talent. People would kill to have that kind of size and talent and he squandered it because of his ego.

 

[Turin]

Yeah he disgusts me, such a massive waste of size and talent. People would kill to have that kind of size and talent and he squandered it because of his ego.

I don’t even know if it’s an ego thing. I think for some reason he has like no drive as an athlete. He just might not care to be the best he can be. Which sucks as a hockey fan because he has a brilliant combination of size and skill like you said. Like he hasn’t developed at all since he was 18, it’s insane to me. You’d think you would accidentally get better by experience if nothing else. Crosby and McDavid have developed since then and they were immediately elite.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Count me in the camp that would not minded having him back , but after watching him the playoffs… he’s flat out useless now

 

[Daximus]

I don’t even know if it’s an ego thing. I think for some reason he has like no drive as an athlete. He just might not care to be the best he can be. Which sucks as a hockey fan because he has a brilliant combination of size and skill like you said. Like he hasn’t developed at all since he was 18, it’s insane to me. You’d think you would accidentally get better by experience if nothing else. Crosby and McDavid have developed since then and they were immediately elite.

I think the ego is part of that. He thinks he's good enough already so there is no drive to want to get better. The thing that separates guys like McDavid, Crosby, MacK from the rest of the league is they know they can always improve. They know there is no limit to what they can learn and they use every single thing available to them to continue improving. They don't stop trying to get better. Sure they also have some ego but that ego is more about confidence. Laine never had confidence, just ego. He never listened to those around him, he though he knew better than everyone. He never tried to improve on his deficiances he just continued to double, triple and quadruple down on his shot and only his shot.

Laine had a great shot arsenal but the buck stopped there. He had mediocre skating, mediocre physicality, mediocre defence, mediocre durability and mediocre fitness. Even Ovechkin, who also had that insane shot arsenal, came into the league as a once in a generation talent. He could skate like the wind, hit everything in sight and was about as durable as they come. Eventually Ovi's lack of fitness caught up with him and his skating took a major hit but he had the IQ, physicality and durability to adapt his game. He remained a useful player and still remains a useful player at 40. Ovechkin at 40 years old is a more useful player than Laine has honestly ever been. Laine tried to come into the league as old man Ovi but he flamed out faster than old man Ovi because even old man Ovi has more drive to compete.

If Laine had the drive of those top guys in the league the sky would have been the limit but he just didn't have it. He wasted his talent and it pisses me off just thinking about it.

 

[Guardian17]

Montreal is nuts....

The Basu & Godin Notebook

Patrik Laine is more likely to replace Nikolaj Ehlers in Winnipeg than to play with him in Montreal. – Arpon Basu. We don’t know if Laine would agree to go back there, and his no-trade clause means he’ll have a say in all this. But in a world where the Jets are letting Ehlers go, maybe picking up a guy like Laine would make sense.

We know that over there, the third line (Adam Lowry’s) plays a lot, which makes it easier to “hide” a player like Laine in the line-up and deploy him mostly with the man advantage. And if the Habs are willing to withhold 50% of Laine’s salary, who knows if the Jets wouldn’t be interested in bringing him back at a rather modest cap hit of $4.35 million.

Apron, Sydney Sweeney is more likely to buy soap infused with your bath water than Laine returning to the Jets.

 

[jungles]

Where is Laine today if he sticks with Winnipeg, I wonder?

 

[raideralex99]

Where is Laine today if he sticks with Winnipeg, I wonder?

You mean I wonder if the Jets are Stanley Cup champs if they drafted Tkachuk instead of Laine?

 

[surixon]

Where is Laine today if he sticks with Winnipeg, I wonder?

Probably the same and the Jets room remained in the shitter. He wasn't well liked in that room for his lack of effort.

 

[Turin]

You mean I wonder if the Jets are Stanley Cup champs if they drafted Tkachuk instead of Laine?

Tough to say if Tkachuk woulda stayed. Probably won a Cup in 2018 tho lol.

Laine did at least eventually bring back Vilardi, Iaffalo +

 

[GNP]

You mean I wonder if the Jets are Stanley Cup champs if they drafted Tkachuk instead of Laine?

Probably would have been ?

 

[KingBogo]

Probably the same and the Jets room remained in the shitter. He wasn't well liked in that room for his lack of effort.

Agreed, and in retrospect Laine probably undermined the room more than anyone, and maybe put the overly intense Wheeler on tilt that finished off the job.

 

[Jets 31]

When you give your draft interview lying upside down on your bed that might have been a sign Laine was on the lazy side. I did like Laine until he started saying he didn't want Little as his center. Little was a damn good hockey player.

 

[Daximus]

You mean I wonder if the Jets are Stanley Cup champs if they drafted Tkachuk instead of Laine?

There's at least 4 teams that wished they drafted Tkachuk instead. The team that did draft him probably wishes they drafted someone else. I think a similar situation would have eventually arose with us and Tkachuk as well but hard to tell. Tkachuk used covid as an excuse but it was honestly probably Sutter that drove him out. Hindsight and all that. I'll admit I was pretty low on him. I wanted Sergachev if we stayed at 6.

 

[ecolad]

People are under rating the off ice aspect here. This is a player who has captained a team to the cups three times and played pivotal roles in the top international events. Part of our teams problem in the playoffs is mental and figuring out how to win and bounce back in certain situations. He'd be a great resource in the room for out players during those times. This isn't at all a Hendrix situation, Toews would command respect from everyone.

I find what you`re saying here very easy to agree with in general. But have a smouldering thought that Toews just might clash with the chemistry in the room. And the thought here is that Toews may simply take the game too seriously for some of our current leaders especially with Scheifele! Remeber how Scheifele always likes to characterize a game as something "fun", with never a reference to the competitive side or the sacrifices necessary to win. I wonder how "Captain Serious" will interact in this type of environ?

 

[surixon]

I find what you`re saying here very easy to agree with in general. But have a smouldering thought that Toews just might clash with the chemistry in the room. And the thought here is that Toews may simply take the game too seriously for some of our current leaders especially with Scheifele! Remeber how Scheifele always likes to characterize a game as something "fun", with never a reference to the competitive side or the sacrifices necessary to win. I wonder how "Captain Serious" will interact in this type of environ?

That is an interesting thought. I didn't consider that angle. I would hope that if they bring him in that they have done their due diligence on that. But if he is the leader people say he is then I'd expect him to come in blend his style in with what is already going on.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Yeah he disgusts me, such a massive waste of size and talent. People would kill to have that kind of size and talent and he squandered it because of his ego.

If I’m being honest, he always struck me as a guy who did hockey because he was really solid at it but doesn’t LOVE it.

You can tell the difference between the freakish elite that love what they do vs the ones who do it because it’s their meal ticket, IMO.

 

[ecolad]

That is an interesting thought. I didn't consider that angle. I would hope that if they bring him in that they have done their due diligence on that. But if he is the leader people say he is then I'd expect him to come in blend his style in with what is already going on.

of course, some movement by the team leaders towards a more serious side may be just what is necessary to take more winning steps in the playoffs. This has to be developed all season though -it is not something you just turn-on at playoff time.

 

[Daximus]

If I’m being honest, he always struck me as a guy who did hockey because he was really solid at it but doesn’t LOVE it.

You can tell the difference between the freakish elite that love what they do vs the ones who do it because it’s their meal ticket, IMO.

I knew a few people like that growing up. Massively talented but just never had the drive to continually get better. If it wasn't for his shot Laine likely never would have made it as far as he did. He was able to largely coast on it. I'd imagine he's likely on his way out of the league after his contract is up. Absolutely no way he makes anywhere near what he's making now.