2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread
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I’d much rather give the roster spot to a youngster with a future. Toews may have a spurt or two left but basically he’s done.
Irrespective of salary, an aged out Wheeler is the quality of player you’d get with Toews. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to bring back Wheeler on a league minimum contract.
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we actually don't know the type of player we would get with toews... he is going to come on a very cheap AAV and will only be expensive with bonuses, if he ends up sucking he goes to the press box, it's really low risk how reward
Thechozen1
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Kind of similar to how the Oilers handed a roster spot over to Savoie and ditched Perry?
There’s a time for young players, but the value of a veteran that knows what it takes past game 82 cannot be overstated.
Youngsters should force their way onto a team not be given a spot because they are the only option.
Yep. Same goes for vets trying to come back from injury retirement.
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Per Darren Dreger we are “front and center when the time is right”
I mean who really knows
But dregs is generally considered more connected to the jets than most, and we know from earlier this year Chevy has been in touch with his camp
Gil Fisher
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He's not going to be better than Barron/Kupari/Gus. He wasn't good at 35. He's not taking two years off and suddenly becoming good at 37. It's a longshot and people want to guarantee him $4 million.
Well honestly even broken 35 year old Toews was still better than any of them have been up to this point in their careers.
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Even if he's capable of potting a few goals ( say 10-20 ) the bigger question for me is will his play be good enough to fit into the Jets defensive system? Having Toews get you 15 goals while being a -30 is not what the Jets need.
What to give him a try, Then a PTO or at worst league minimum full of bonuses. Anything else... let him go to Toronto.
2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 82 35 46 81 -2
2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 70 18 42 60 -2
2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 71 12 25 37 -14
2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 53 15 16 31 -31
Even if he's capable of potting a few goals ( say 10-20 ) the bigger question for me is will his play be good enough to fit into the Jets defensive system? Having Toews get you 15 goals while being a -30 is not what the Jets need.
What to give him a try, Then a PTO or at worst league minimum full of bonuses. Anything else... let him go to Toronto.
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His -31 season was on a horrendous 29-46 Blackhawks team where Max Domi was their leading scorer and they had no less than 6 different goaltenders start games for them that season. He’s always been defensively responsible.
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He wouldn't be asked play a top matchup role here so I don't really put much stock in his plus minus while being the top line and matchup C on a poor team. He'd be a depth piece here on a strong deep team. Very different roles and caliber of teammates.
He’s not good enough to move the needle… If he is really cheap and we are not paying for the name then I’m okay with it… other then that let him go somewhere else.
I fear we lose Ehlers then overpay for Toews to show we are doing “something”
I fear we lose Ehlers then overpay for Toews to show we are doing “something”
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Agreed. What I like about it though is if it works out at 2C with him, that’s a great cheap solution to the problem. If it doesn’t end up working out at 2C and he is instead a 3C / 4C, ~2M salary for a 3C or 4C with his pedigree/leadership/experience is still a good deal and that kind of money doesn’t block us in any meaningful way to try and fill that void at the deadline or prior to it earlier in the season.
Yeah he wasn’t really ever a consistent PPG player. He had really good 2-way game, excellent in the dot (I think 57% career faceoffs? Something like that), and was one of (if not the) most prolific clutch player(s) in the biggest moments over the last 20 years (certainly top 5). To look at his +/- during his last couple seasons on a horrible Chicago team is not really going to lead to accurate conclusions of the player he was or could still be. Yes, the guy is 37 y/o and hasn’t played in 2y - it’s a roll of the dice, but at a cheap cost - and I think it’s a roll of the dice worth taking. We don’t really know what he will look like but I’d love to see it and find out.
If Toews avoids us from Appleton or Tanev I'm good with that.
People are under rating the off ice aspect here. This is a player who has captained a team to the cups three times and played pivotal roles in the top international events. Part of our teams problem in the playoffs is mental and figuring out how to win and bounce back in certain situations. He'd be a great resource in the room for out players during those times. This isn't at all a Hendrix situation, Toews would command respect from everyone.
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Then why arent we having a ten page debate about signing jamie benn - hes probably more useful to this team than toews...
If Toews wants to compete with Kupari and Gus for the 4C slot, then sure give him a chance. I think it's way too optimistic to imagine that he'll supplant Namestnikov.
No one is pencilling him in to 2C. Just saying it's worth a try. Having a center depth of Scheif, Names, Lowry, Toews, Barron, Kupari is better than not. Plus we are always bound to have injuries so it's good to have center depth early on. If he ends up doing well higher up the lineup then we got a steal. If not then we continue to go shopping. We aren't likely to fill our 2C hole this offseason anyways,
Are we at all confident that if the Jets bring in a marquee vet, hometown boy, former superstar, multi-Cup winner, that they'll deploy him based strictly on merit? I'm not. I think he'll get a lot of top 6 and powerplay rope no matter the results unless he's literally unplayable - and even then...
It's looking like Rossi wants a $7m x 7y contract. That coupled with his play in the playoffs is likely why the Wild want to move away from him. It all makes sense now.
Apparently the Wild offered him $5m x 5y and he rejected it. Wild wanted a late 1st or Foerster from Philly for him and Philly was unwilling to offer that up.
Something is up here. If the Wild want a late 1st for him and no team is willing to bite. There's gotta be more to it. Sure he was bad in the playoffs but he is young, it's wild that no one is taking a swing on this.
Apparently the Wild offered him $5m x 5y and he rejected it. Wild wanted a late 1st or Foerster from Philly for him and Philly was unwilling to offer that up.
Something is up here. If the Wild want a late 1st for him and no team is willing to bite. There's gotta be more to it. Sure he was bad in the playoffs but he is young, it's wild that no one is taking a swing on this.
