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Unless he has a specific destination, ie here, Chicago or maybe try to win one more cup. I don't think money will be the deal breaker
2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread
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Oh I agree that cash likely isn't the driving force. The point I was trying to make though with that much interest he's not going to take a tryout opportunity. You will have to offer him a contract. Most of those contract projection sites have him in the $2 million range.
I had thought about $ 1.5 for Toews, but $ 2 mil is ok with me, and I would think the Jets will pay that.
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I think it would reasonable to try toews at 2C and if it doesn't work out, move him down the line up with PP time
Of course, that would still leave you with a 2C problem lol
Of course, that would still leave you with a 2C problem lol
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Garrett has a giod article about toews to bring people back to earth
I don't think it brought anyone back down to earth as most on here see him as a useful depth add and not much more. That is what Garrett alluded to as well.
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Perhaps. I see an awful lot of chat about him as 2C and think we should all be realistic about this move..
The reality is we are bringing in Matt Hendricks with playoff leadership essentially... not a terrible move but toews doesnt solve our 2c or pk issues
Min wage its a no brainer... any more then id pass
Well you had Dregger bring up 2C. I said it was wishful thinking when that tweet came out.
So just doing some armchair GMing.
With Lowry on LTIR to start the year. And using CapWages projections..
Ehlers - $8.5m x 8y
Samberg - $5.210m x 5y
Vilardi - $6.8m x 4y
Barron - $1.56m x 2y
Rashevsky - $950k x 1y (ELC)
Kupari - $1.75m x 1y
Toews - $2m x 1-2y
Plus letting Apples+Tanev walk and trading Schenn+Stanley away for late picks to whomever. We come in at a cap hit of $92,607,130 to start the year. That gives us some breathing room and some of those contracts like Ehlers may end up going a little higher. Plus Lowry coming back.
We have a pretty solid lineup.
C - Scheif/Names/Lowry/Barron/Toews/Kupari/Gus
LW - Connor/Ehlers/Perfetti/Names/Iafallo/Nieds/Barron/Toews/Gus
RW - Vilardi/Prefetti/Ehlers/Iaffalo/Nieds/Kupari
LD - Morrissey/Sambeg/Heinola
RD - DeMelo/Pionk/Salomonsson/Miller
There won't be a tonne of room for the youth movement. Basically just slotting in Salomonsson on 3RD. It might not be a bad idea to also explore options for another 3LD/press box D.
With Lowry on LTIR to start the year. And using CapWages projections..
Ehlers - $8.5m x 8y
Samberg - $5.210m x 5y
Vilardi - $6.8m x 4y
Barron - $1.56m x 2y
Rashevsky - $950k x 1y (ELC)
Kupari - $1.75m x 1y
Toews - $2m x 1-2y
Plus letting Apples+Tanev walk and trading Schenn+Stanley away for late picks to whomever. We come in at a cap hit of $92,607,130 to start the year. That gives us some breathing room and some of those contracts like Ehlers may end up going a little higher. Plus Lowry coming back.
We have a pretty solid lineup.
C - Scheif/Names/Lowry/Barron/Toews/Kupari/Gus
LW - Connor/Ehlers/Perfetti/Names/Iafallo/Nieds/Barron/Toews/Gus
RW - Vilardi/Prefetti/Ehlers/Iaffalo/Nieds/Kupari
LD - Morrissey/Sambeg/Heinola
RD - DeMelo/Pionk/Salomonsson/Miller
There won't be a tonne of room for the youth movement. Basically just slotting in Salomonsson on 3RD. It might not be a bad idea to also explore options for another 3LD/press box D.
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but if we can land Rossi for a future package, I’d even be willing to offer up Yager or Lambert. A 60-point center is exactly what we hope either of them turns into — and 55 isn’t getting any younger.
allegedly they were asking a deal centered around Philly's later 1sts or Tyson Forester. The latter piece is probably closer to Perfetti. & I can't imagine it was just the late 1st since there's quite a bit of a discrepancy between the two asks.
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hard disagree, wheeler was making 8.25, toews will most likely get league min + bonuses, if he sucks then he won't reach most bonuses,
I agree with the latter point. My thinking was that if it were a futures-only deal, it would likely happen before or during the draft, since draft picks tend to be overvalued at that time. I also assumed we'd need to pay a small premium for in-division trading. But I'd have any prospect available minus Salomonsson
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Mistake at any price?
I dunno. I think it’s worth a shot. Could be a low risk high reward move.
Edit - just to add, Even if he can win us some face offs, that would be huge. He’s going to sign with some team in the nhl, why not his home town team? Would also help with selling tix and returning to sell outs on a regular basis
Rossi is probably a tier or two below Fiala who at 26, coming off an 85pt year brought back 1st (19th overall) +Brock Faber (2 years removed from mid 2nd). Obviously Faber has turned into a top pair RD, not sure if he had that sort of label back then. Pretty sure we'd need to send cap back too.
I disagree. Wheeler was getting 8mil. Toews at 2m or less could end up being a steal.
He's had 2 years off and may be rusty, he might even have absolutely nothing left in the tank. But on the off chance that he comes back rejuvenated. That is the kind of signing that could lead a team to the promise land. The odds he comes back and can step into a 2C role with us are slim no doubt, but it's worth the investment for this season to find out. You gotta take some risks and some chances. Winnipeg is a market that doesn't really get a chance to take to many chances on players like Toews. When the opportunity arises you gotta take it.
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Yeah. I know a lot of the interest in Toews is premised around his battle with long COVID and that now he’s possibly back to something resembling pre-2020 Toews. What that article refreshed for me is that 2015-20 Toews was already in sharp decline as far as underlying numbers and 5v5 performance.
In the range of possible outcomes for Toews with the Jets, most of them point to him being an inferior option to Namestnikov.
It’s not a terrible idea if the interest is there and the price is right. Personally I’m not going to expect more than Mark Letestu, Riley Nash, or Cody Eakin in terms of outcome. Will be good for jersey sales though!
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If anyone is expecting Toews to be a 2C you're going to be disappointed. Having said that if he wants to sign here at a very team friendly ticket then I'm sure they can find somewhere to put him on the ice where he will find some sort of success.
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Now the Jets have a supposed very tight group of players, I think Toews would fit in really well and the knowledge of a 3 time SC champion would be very beneficial to every one in the room. He would make a great sounding board for the players and coaches alike.
I'd love to staple Yager to him and have him soak up as much as he can
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I really didn't think of that, he would be a great help to not only him but all the prospects in the organization. Not to often when you can bend the ear during training camp of a 3 time SC winner
No. The problem with Wheeler, as others have stated, was the cost of him. I'll also add playing him on the first line and on the pp where he had no business at all playing.
If the Jets sign Toews and he shows he can handle it, then sure play him up there. If he plays like a third or fourth line player then you play him there. Fit him in where his skills currently are at is all that is required as he's still a net asset if it's also at a reasonable cost.
