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2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

55 ain’t playing forever. We can’t trade any true centers with potential.
trading Yaeger (unknown NHL C) for Rossi (known NHL C*), the Jets obtain an actual productive center, and lose ~3.5 years in age. really, it's not like they're hugely apart in age. they're gaining a true NHL C none of this 'potential' talk.

*not sure how good he is at actually playing C 2-way. ill defer to others that watch the Wild and focus on him a good amount.
 
Jets should trade Yager for Rossi every time. Yager’s absolute ceiling is decent 2C and more likely to be a 3C or a winger.
 
Jets should trade Yager for Rossi every time. Yager’s absolute ceiling is decent 2C and more likely to be a 3C or a winger.
this isn't the first time as of late that i've heard he's closer to a 2/3C tweener. what makes you come to that conclusion? or as a winger?
 
Jets should trade Yager for Rossi every time. Yager’s absolute ceiling is decent 2C and more likely to be a 3C or a winger.

Why are they trading him for a prospect. They are trying to win with Kaprizov. They will move him for a now player imo.
 
this isn't the first time as of late that i've heard he's closer to a 2/3C tweener. what makes you come to that conclusion? or as a winger?
His offensive game has not really developed in junior to what you would expect from somebody in their D+2 season. He also looked worse in his 2025 WJC than his 2024. As a C he’s not very big but he’s not a burner either, and he’s not a great playmaker either. His shot is pretty good and he’s a responsible player with decent hands but I’m not seeing him being a top six Center any time soon if ever.
 
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Difference being that one has already put up 60 points in the show and the other has never played a pro game.
I'm not a fan of the idea of trading arguably our top prospect for a 23 year old that his team seems to have given up on.

Also, Rossi was playing on a line with Kaprisov most of the year (at least when Kaprisov was healthy). I bet that would have helped his point total quite a bit.
 
Jets should trade Yager for Rossi every time. Yager’s absolute ceiling is decent 2C and more likely to be a 3C or a winger.
LOL...

I think Winnipeg would need much more than Yager to land Rossi. A more realistic scenario is to trade Ehlers and a high draft pick for Rossi. Keep in mind, Rossi has improved to a 60 point player, and is much superior to Perfetti (who went one pick later).

Rossi is only 23, and Ehlers is now 29. Perhaps throw in Lambert instead...

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His offensive game has not really developed in junior to what you would expect from somebody in their D+2 season. He also looked worse in his 2025 WJC than his 2024. As a C he’s not very big but he’s not a burner either, and he’s not a great playmaker either. His shot is pretty good and he’s a responsible player either decent hands but I’m not seeing him being a top six Center any time soon if ever.
Interesting POV. Of course this is just one POV of many, and I think forecasting prospects is insanely hard with huge margins of error. I remember one of the big pros of the deal that folks on here had was that Yaeger will be a C.
 
. A more realistic scenario is to trade Ehlers and a high draft pick for Rossi
How is that realistic? Ehlers is a UFA and if he wants to leave will have his choice of basically any team in the league, I highly doubt if he wants to leave that Minny will be one of his choices (as best we could do is trade his rights)

But yeah Yager for Rossi certainly doesn't get it done either, truth is we don't have much to offer.
 
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LOL...

I think Winnipeg would need much more than Yager to land Rossi. A more realistic scenario is to trade Ehlers and a high draft pick for Rossi. Keep in mind, Rossi has improved to a 60 point player, and is much superior to Perfetti (who went one pick later).

Rossi is only 23, and Ehlers is now 29. Perhaps throw in Lambert instead...

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He isn't superior. The difference is in usage. Rossi played top line and top pp minutes all year due to injuries on the wild. He averaged 3 minutes more per game and averaged 40 seconds more pp time per game.

I'd imagine Perfetti would be putting up a lot more points playing the increased minutes while riding shot gun to what was the Heart trophy favorite before he got injured in Kaprizov.

A 10 point lead on Cole given the superior linemates, pp time, and total ice time isn't that impressive.
 
LOL...

I think Winnipeg would need much more than Yager to land Rossi. A more realistic scenario is to trade Ehlers and a high draft pick for Rossi. Keep in mind, Rossi has improved to a 60 point player, and is much superior to Perfetti (who went one pick later).

Rossi is only 23, and Ehlers is now 29. Perhaps throw in Lambert instead...

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Seriously how would Rossi help the Jets?
Sure during regular season but come playoff time a 5'9" player can't take the abuse ... he went down to playing 4th line minutes (from 18:36 season) against the big VGK defence in the playoffs.
 
How is that realistic? Ehlers is a UFA and if he wants to leave will have his choice of basically any team in the league, I highly doubt if he wants to leave that Minny will be one of his choices (as best we could do is trade his rights)

But yeah Yager for Rossi certainly doesn't get it done either, truth is we don't have much to offer.
OK how else do we land Rossi?

-Connor
-Scheifele
-Hellebuyck
-Morrissey

Other than these 4, I can't see anyone on par or greater than Rossi (unless we throw in draft picks or multiple players). Obviously, we're not trading any of the four, but how many 23 year olds put up 60 points? Scheifele did it in 2015-16, when he was 23. Connor did it in 2018-19, when he was 22. Laine did it at 19, then regressed once he hit 20. That's all I can think of in Jets 2.0 history.
 
Seriously how would Rossi help the Jets?
Sure during regular season but come playoff time a 5'9" player can't take the abuse ... he went down to playing 4th line minutes (from 18:36 season) against the big VGK defence in the playoffs.
Under those goalposts, one can argue how can Hellebuyck or Ehlers help the Jets, considering their historical playoff performances. There are too many homers responding, and make Rossi seem like the equivalent of Mason Appleton. The irony of crapping on Rossi for his one playoff performance, is that Rossi performed better in his first year than Ehlers did in every single playoff year, until 2025.

In fairness, this is not unique to the Jets forum. It seems every team section has their bias opinions. It's worse in larger Canadian markets.
 
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OK how else do we land Rossi?
In terms of trade as I said we have little to offer and nothing of consequence we would be willing to give up, our only option is to offer sheet him but in order to do that we need to dump cap first as we cannot fit say a 7x7m under the cap assuming we sign all of our RFA's and UFA's that we need (Ehlers, Sammy, Vilardi)
 
His offensive game has not really developed in junior to what you would expect from somebody in their D+2 season. He also looked worse in his 2025 WJC than his 2024. As a C he’s not very big but he’s not a burner either, and he’s not a great playmaker either. His shot is pretty good and he’s a responsible player either decent hands but I’m not seeing him being a top six Center any time soon if ever.

I mean he was asked to play a checking role at the WJC so I'm not sure why people are surprised when he plays as the role would entail.

I will admit I expected more offense from him in the playoffs but his percentage of team offense in the regular season was very high. He played on a low scoring team which imo depresses his totals a bit.

I still believe he has second line C upside but he's definitely not a sure bet and I'd want this team to give Perfetti a long look there next year sp as to not have all our eggs in the Yager bucket.
GivenLowry is out for a bit and can trial some players at C to begin the year.
 
In terms of trade as I said we have little to offer and nothing of consequence we would be willing to give up, our only option is to offer sheet him but in order to do that we need to dump cap first as we cannot fit say a 7x7m under the cap assuming we sign all of our RFA's and UFA's that we need (Ehlers, Sammy, Vilardi)

I suppose we can always put a player that is injury prone on LTIR, then start him in the playoffs. I kept looking at Vilardi in the playoffs, as he was obviously playing hurt and thought "what if we pulled a Mark Stone/Evander Kane" lol.
 
In terms of trade as I said we have little to offer and nothing of consequence we would be willing to give up, our only option is to offer sheet him but in order to do that we need to dump cap first as we cannot fit say a 7x7m under the cap assuming we sign all of our RFA's and UFA's that we need (Ehlers, Sammy, Vilardi)

Agreed. They'd ask for Cole or Snerg and we'd say no.

The Wild fans seem to want Horvat for him which is probably the type of player they are looking form
 
I really don't see the Wild sending him within the division.

You have to wonder why he's on the outs there. Why would a retooling team give up a good young player. Maybe I'm over thinking things but there mist be some issue there for them to get rid of him just as he's emerged.

Not really what we need though. We need to add skilled size to line 2.
Rossi was mostly deployed on L1 or L2, doesn't seem to have been sheltered from tough competition. He got a relatively healthy OZ push - 57% OZ starts, 55% OZ Faceoffs. Jets L1 and L2 forwards got 66%-77% OZ starts and faceoffs for comparison (Jets L3 and L4 get the brunt of DZ starts/faceoffs).

Scoring was okay. Rossi was 4th among the Wild forwards with 1.72 p/60. 0.69 g/60 and 0.69 a1/60 = 1.38 primary points/60 and 1.72 p/60 overall. Close to Vilardi's numbers (1.42 primary/60, 1.88 p/60).

Better with Kaprizov overall, but not bad without in the metrics. Goaldiff was 24-16 +8 with Kap, 32-27 +5 without. xGoaldiff was 19-15 +4 with Kap, 35-32 +3 without.

But yeah, when we've already got Perfetti on the second line, it would look pretty tiny if you added Rossi. Sip would lose it.
 
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I mean he was asked to play a checking role at the WJC so I'm not sure why people are surprised when he plays as the role would entail.

I will admit I expected more offense from him in the playoffs but his percentage of team offense in the regular season was very high. He played on a low scoring team which imo depresses his totals a bit.

I still believe he has second line C upside but he's definitely not a sure bet and I'd want this team to give Perfetti a long look there next year sp as to not have all our eggs in the Yager bucket.
GivenLowry is out for a bit and can trial some players at C to begin the year.
I think the fact that he's a D+2 and was asked to be in a checking role sort of tells you that his game hasn't developed like a future NHL offensive players would. If I had to bet on it, I would say 2nd/3rd line tweener RW is the most likely option.
 
Under those goalposts, one can argue how can Hellebuyck or Ehlers help the Jets, considering their historical playoff performances. There are too many homers responding, and make Rossi seem like the equivalent of Mason Appleton. The irony of crapping on Rossi for his one playoff performance, is that Rossi performed better in his first year than Ehlers did in every single playoff year, until 2025.

In fairness, this is not unique to the Jets forum. It seems every team section has their bias opinions. It's worse in larger Canadian markets.
Homer response?
I never said Rossi was a bad player. I said he cannot help the Jets in a playoff run. The Jets were missing the toughest to get to the front of the net and protect their front of the net (Blues series). You cannot do that by bringing in more smaller players without grit or toughness.
Rossi does not move the need on the Jets that was my point.
Wild apparently agree too ... they want to use a 5'9" Rossi trade to get bigger at center.
 
LOL...

I think Winnipeg would need much more than Yager to land Rossi. A more realistic scenario is to trade Ehlers and a high draft pick for Rossi. Keep in mind, Rossi has improved to a 60 point player, and is much superior to Perfetti (who went one pick later).

Rossi is only 23, and Ehlers is now 29. Perhaps throw in Lambert instead...

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Yes I know it would take more, I'm responding to the people wondering if the Jets can afford to give up Yager for him.
 
I never said Rossi was a bad player. I said he cannot help the Jets in a playoff run.

Again, you are basing this on a very small sample size. Rossi has played in the playoffs once, and had 3 points in 6 games. Compare that with Ehlers (21 points in 55 games). Saying "he can't help the Jets in a playoff run after his first ever playoff round, which he didn't do that bad, is very short sighted.

Martin St.Louis, Theo Fleury, Ted Lindsay, Rod Gilbert, Henri Richard, Jared Spurgeon, Marcel Dionne, Cole Caufield, Johnny Gaudreau, Alex DeBrincat, Brad Marchand, and Jonathan Marchessault are all 5'9 or small, and accomplished great feat, including the playoffs.

The Jets were missing the toughest to get to the front of the net and protect their front of the net (Blues series).

This is flat out untrue. The Jets outhit the Blues and Stars. The difference is the Blues played dirty, and targeted Connor, Scheifele, and Morrissey. The irony is that the jets are actually slightly bigger than the Blues, and slightly smaller than the Stars (11th biggest team overall).
 
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I'd be loading up the brink truck for Ekblad. He's exactly what we need. A big and mean top pairing RD with cup winning pedigree. Probably wishful thinking but he did play junior hockey in Barrie with Scheifele so maybe Mark can sell him on Winnipeg.

Assuming Ehlers doesn’t come back, this is the year to overpay for an UFA that we could really make a difference. There’s only so many times we can take the value guys. At some point we will need to make a play for a big time UFA.
 
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