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TS Quint said:
It’s just that simple? Just pull a Marchand out of thin air. Wish the Jets would have done that years ago.
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It's not simple but I'd much rather have guys that can actually play then plugs who are only there because they are average fighters. Having plugs has never stopped our top guys from fighting before and it won't in the future. Ehlers, Scheif, Wheeler, Perreault. When they wanted to drop the gloves they were going to drop them and no amount of Pelusos, Schenns or Stanleys have or will ever change that.
 
Mooche said:
Listening to Kenny and Renny today on my drive today- Wiebe indicated on the topic of 2C that last year the Jets were interested and having some discussions about McMichael with the Capitals.

Things never really materialized with the Rutger scenario and he said he wasn't sure how follow along it got. But damn.

That would have been exactly the type of player needed to fit in that hole. Cheap cap hit (2.1M for this past season and next) into RFA.

Obviously with his breakout, the point is moot, but found it very interesting.
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This can't be true. I've heard that Chevy never tries anything and is the worst GM in the league. :sarcasm:
 
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Daximus said:
It's not simple but I'd much rather have guys that can actually play then plugs who are only there because they are average fighters. Having plugs has never stopped our top guys from fighting before and it won't in the future. Ehlers, Scheif, Wheeler, Perreault. When they wanted to drop the gloves they were going to drop them and no amount of Pelusos, Schenns or Stanleys have or will ever change that.
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That reminds me of the time PoMo sent Peluso out for a shootout lol
 
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Bob E said:
Anyone else think that Vegas will go hard after Marner should he hit FA? They can give him $12M a year in a no tax state where he could slip into the shadows, which would be the same a $50M in Toronto or so it would feel.

If they do, then William Karlsson would likely be a cap casualty with his $5.9M cap hit. Vegas gets cap space and perhaps a young non-roster player/prospect, and we get a solid veteran C who would be epic during our SC celebration.

He has a MNTC, and Winnipeg is likely one of the 10 teams, but perhaps we can be persuaded to come here for the 2 years left on his current deal. Sign Ehlers and trade for Karlsson and our 2nd line would be speedy and skilled still. And his 2 yr contract gives Yager time to develop his pro game in the AHL and add some strength. I still feel Yager would be an ideal 2C one day with his offensive chops and defensive acumen.
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Yes a few weeks back I mentioned that my bet would be Vegas for Marner.
 
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Dirtyclapper said:
Luke Schenn seriously grew on me so much as soon as he got paired up with Fleury. 2 sasky boys and we got our Hermantown boys. Josh and melo.. I love our defense now, just keep those 6 going into next season. No need to keep Stan, let someone else come up, he had his chance and didn't love up to it unfortunately.
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The Jets problem is they have no LH defensemen in the pipeline. Freij seems another year away from the Moose. Kuzmin could barely stay in the lineup before being traded. Phillips seems like the kind of Czuzman callup from the lean years. Didn't look all that promising on the Moose. Does he get a contract?

Imagine that Stan was a top 4 d-man briefly when both Samberg and Fleury went down. Fleury seems safe to stay another couple of years, after the playoffs, but he was no guarantee during the season. I agree I like the chemistry between the Hermantown and SK pairings.

Maybe the Jets can sign a plug, but I think Big Stan comes back because he is signed, and the lack of depth on that side, and the lack of big defenseman if Schenn goes down.

Salomonsson is the one guy I think the org considers moving up, with J Mo, if he's ready. Fleury and Melo were also effective in the playoffs.

But I think he'd have to win that job convincingly, before the Jets move a RD.

I am curious what people think of the defense.

I think Fleury re-signs, Bauer re-signs, after that wouldn't be surprised if Lundmark goes back to Sweden. Coghlan is now potentially 6th on the RH depth chart, I wonder if he re-signs under those circumstances.

Heinola is the one for me, I'd like him on the Moose, you need PKers to back up your PKers so i don't see him with a future on the Jets unless something changes. If Chevy could get an ELC/waiver capable contract for him that would be the best move for both parties.

The one thing about trading Stanley is you could get a pick for him. And at least that would start the process over again.

Be interesting to see what direction Chevy goes with the defense.
 
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voyageur said:
Be interesting to see what direction Chevy goes with the defense.
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Well we definitely need another solid third pairing D man, Fleury will probably be fine but another is needed for depth, trade Stan and Schenn if we can, Salo can play this season imo and we still have Miller so RD is fine and Ville is still there for more depth.

Might be best to use our pick on another D man also, as you said we have nothing in the pipeline so I imagine that's what Chevy will do.
 
UFO said:
Regarding Toews. It would take a special kind of warrior to make a comeback after long covid and a two-year break and still be relevant. And all this at the age of 37, mind you.

I can't really see it.
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If Toews says he ready, he's ready! I'm 100% behind an experiment with a hometown guy that has shown what he can do at a hometown rate. Sure he may not be the Toews of old BUT he'll be an asset not a liability!
 
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voyageur said:
The Jets problem is they have no LH defensemen in the pipeline. Freij seems another year away from the Moose. Kuzmin could barely stay in the lineup before being traded. Phillips seems like the kind of Czuzman callup from the lean years. Didn't look all that promising on the Moose. Does he get a contract?

Imagine that Stan was a top 4 d-man briefly when both Samberg and Fleury went down. Fleury seems safe to stay another couple of years, after the playoffs, but he was no guarantee during the season. I agree I like the chemistry between the Hermantown and SK pairings.

Maybe the Jets can sign a plug, but I think Big Stan comes back because he is signed, and the lack of depth on that side, and the lack of big defenseman if Schenn goes down.

Salomonsson is the one guy I think the org considers moving up, with J Mo, if he's ready. Fleury and Melo were also effective in the playoffs.

But I think he'd have to win that job convincingly, before the Jets move a RD.

I am curious what people think of the defense.

I think Fleury re-signs, Bauer re-signs, after that wouldn't be surprised if Lundmark goes back to Sweden. Coghlan is now potentially 6th on the RH depth chart, I wonder if he re-signs under those circumstances.

Heinola is the one for me, I'd like him on the Moose, you need PKers to back up your PKers so i don't see him with a future on the Jets unless something changes. If Chevy could get an ELC/waiver capable contract for him that would be the best move for both parties.

The one thing about trading Stanley is you could get a pick for him. And at least that would start the process over again.

Be interesting to see what direction Chevy goes with the defense.
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Getting a good number 2 defenseman to play with Morrissey would solve alot of problems , not easy i know. Then DeMelo slides down to the 3rd pairing because you would have Pionk and Samberg as your second pairing.
 
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I'd like to see a Nino for Dach trade. I think Monteal gives up on Dach. Nino is at least a potential PP guy.

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Yager moves up to 2C, Lowry moves down to a real checking line, when the time is right. But gets a little more offensive players to work with, in the absence of a 2C, since as a 2C he shut down the stars anyways.

3rd line is mostly o-zone.
 
voyageur said:
I'd like to see a Nino for Dach trade. I think Monteal gives up on Dach. Nino is at least a potential PP guy.

KFC-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-Lowry-Dach
Rashevsky-Namestnikov-Chibrikov (PP2)
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo

Yager moves up to 2C, Lowry moves down to a real checking line, when the time is right. But gets a little more offensive players to work with, in the absence of a 2C, since as a 2C he shut down the stars anyways.

3rd line is mostly o-zone.
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Dach to me is a pretty big risk. I'd also be worried about where the goals will come from that second line. I expect Cole will score more as he's continuing to learn to gwt to those danger spots on the ice but Dach isn't a real goal scorer.

I don't mind the idea of your setup but I'd be looking for some one with a bit more natural finish for the rw slot of that line.
 
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surixon said:
Dach to me is a pretty big risk
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That's what Gabe was too. I think Nino is a declining asset, if he loses a step he'll be like a 4th line Perreault, and I like the 4th line we had to start the season, they built momentum with their shifts.

Can't say I know too much about Kirby's injuries though, maybe he's headed to early retirement.

I think if Ehlers walks there is going to be a fundamental shift in the way the team tries to score goals. Greasier. Incorporating the zone possession grind that Arniel brought this year to the team, but with more attack between the circles.
 
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voya°geur said:
That's what Gabe was too. I think Nino is a declining asset, if he loses a step he'll be like a 4th line Perreault, and I like the 4th line we had to start the season, they built momentum with their shifts.

Can't say I know too much about Kirby's injuries though, maybe he's headed to early retirement.

I think if Ehlers walks there is going to be a fundamental shift in the way the team tries to score goals. Greasier. Incorporating the zone possession grind that Arniel brought this year to the team, but with more attack between the circles.
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Very fair points on Gabe. They'd have to do their homework on him. I think you can get him cheaper then Nino.

If anything I see Ehlers leaving as helping the second line play offense more along the lines the team will want to play it. But it will be very tough to make up the skill drop off.
 
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surixon said:
Very fair points on Gabe. They'd have to do their homework on him. I think you can get him cheaper then Nino.

If anything I see Ehlers leaving as helping the second line play offense more along the lines the team will want to play it. But it will be very tough to make up the skill drop off.
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I'd 100% take a flyer on Dach if the price was cheap enough
 
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Daximus said:
It's not simple but I'd much rather have guys that can actually play then plugs who are only there because they are average fighters. Having plugs has never stopped our top guys from fighting before and it won't in the future. Ehlers, Scheif, Wheeler, Perreault. When they wanted to drop the gloves they were going to drop them and no amount of Pelusos, Schenns or Stanleys have or will ever change that.
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Well that's just plain wrong. If those guys feel like they have someone around who will do the dirty work for them they will be less likely to feel the need to take care of things (poorly) themselves. It's just the smart thing to do. We don't want those guys you listed to go to the box with the Hartman's of the league or worse, breaking a hand. It's just a bad trade for the team and bad plan for the team.

We can agree better players are better. But the Jets don't have any that fit this description. What you are talking about isn't an option.

The reality is if the Jets get rid of Schenn you will see a whole lot of Stanley.
 
TS Quint said:
Well that's just plain wrong. If those guys feel like they have someone around who will do the dirty work for them they will be less likely to feel the need to take care of things (poorly) themselves. It's just the smart thing to do. We don't want those guys you listed to go to the box with the Hartman's of the league or worse, breaking a hand. It's just a bad trade for the team and bad plan for the team.

We can agree better players are better. But the Jets don't have any that fit this description. What you are talking about isn't an option.

The reality is if the Jets get rid of Schenn you will see a whole lot of Stanley.
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Ideally we get rid of both and then we can just ice actual defencemen that aren't turnstiles.
 
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voyageur said:
I'd like to see a Nino for Dach trade. I think Monteal gives up on Dach. Nino is at least a potential PP guy.

KFC-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-Lowry-Dach
Rashevsky-Namestnikov-Chibrikov (PP2)
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo

Yager moves up to 2C, Lowry moves down to a real checking line, when the time is right. But gets a little more offensive players to work with, in the absence of a 2C, since as a 2C he shut down the stars anyways.

3rd line is mostly o-zone.
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Dach is LTIR waiting to happen. Don’t want any part of him on the Jets . He can’t keep living off his draft pedigree.
 
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voyageur said:
That's what Gabe was too. I think Nino is a declining asset, if he loses a step he'll be like a 4th line Perreault, and I like the 4th line we had to start the season, they built momentum with their shifts.

Can't say I know too much about Kirby's injuries though, maybe he's headed to early retirement.

I think if Ehlers walks there is going to be a fundamental shift in the way the team tries to score goals. Greasier. Incorporating the zone possession grind that Arniel brought this year to the team, but with more attack between the circles.
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Vilardi is 3X the player Dach is.
 
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