2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Tin foil hat time. The cap can work with the following lineup:

Connor (7.14) | Scheif (8.5) | Vilardi (6.0 - max on a 1 yr, or longer term)
Perfetti (3.25) | Nelson (7.0) | Boeser (8.0)
Nino (4.0) | Lowry (3.25) | Iafallo (3.67)
Barron (1.5) | Names (3.0) | Kupari (1.1)

Gus (0.835)

JMo (6.25) | DeMelo (4.9)
Samberg (5.0) | Pionk (7.0)
Fleury (0.80) | Salomonsson (0.82)

Heinola (0.80) | Miller (1.5)

Helle (8.5)
Comrie (0.825)


Made some salary projections:
- Vilardi gets a max of 6, if it's a 1 yr, likely less.
- Nelson gets a raise to 7, on a 3 yr deal. He might get far more on the open market, but this is what I think his value should be.
- Boeser gets 8 on a long-term deal 6+ yrs. He too likely gets far more on the open market, from goal needy teams like Wild, Vegas, NYR or Boston.
- Barron and Kupari get slight raises on short term deals
- Samberg gets up to 5 on a longer-term deal 6+ yrs
- Fleury resigns at team friendly deal for another year.

Doesn't leave a lot of cap space but this changes the makeup of the 2nd line significantly. But if you resign Ehlers, then his deal is the same 8 max that Boeser gets in my scenario. Leaves the D a little light, in size and experience but that could be addressed at the trade deadline. If Cole continues to develop, and Nelson and Boeser can give you 30+ goals, then the 2nd line might just be a difference maker for a long-term playoff run. Boeser has been a solid playoff performer.

Stanley and Schenn are moved in this scenario, which I don't see the Jets doing. It's just very hard to stay under the cap with their contracts.

Edit: also includes the buyout for Schmidt. If they didn't have to pay that 1.62 then bumping up Vilardi or one of the other UFAs would make this scenario more realistic, assuming Nelson and Boeser would sign with the Jets and be closer to home.

I can't see Samberg signing long term for only 5mil with the cap going up as much as it is.
Only way to keep his cap hit low would be a short deal which isn't ideal for the Jets.
Expect him to get paid more than you projected.

 

[Turin]

Playing around on Puckpedia and if the Jets want to sign Ehlers, Vilardi, Samberg and Fleury they need to trade two of Stanley, Schenn or Miller. If they want to upgrade 2 C they probably need to trade at least one of Namestnkov, Iaffalo or Niederreiter, to make the cap work.

 

[KingBogo]

Of all the suggestions this one would have me very interested for sure. I can't see him being a guy they would look to move but IMO he would be an amazing add for 2C. Excellent defensively, but can also contribute offensively. And at 6.25 to boot (which is why I can't see TB moving him).

Would take a pretty valuable package IMO. 1st (s), any prospect not named Salo (and Yager hopefully), and more.

But his salary would likely enable to Jets to probably be able to re-sign all the current players like Ehlers, Vilardi, Connor, Samberg, etc.

TB would have to trade him quick as he has a full NTC that kicks in July 1.

 

[Daximus]

Playing around on Puckpedia and if the Jets want to sign Ehlers, Vilardi, Samberg and Fleury they need to trade two of Stanley, Schenn or Miller. If they want to upgrade 2 C they probably need to trade at least one of Namestnkov, Iaffalo or Niederreiter, to make the cap work.

Yeah it gets tight, especially when you consider that Connor and Perfetti are also on the doorstep for new deals shortly after. I'm not super fond of hoping the cap keeps jumping like it is projected to. We saw a few teams get dinged when the cap didn't jump as expected and the economic situation in the world is a little bit to shakey right now.

We should absolutely move on from Schenn at the very least this summer. And explore option to move on from Stanley, I think Fleury showed he is a much better player this playoffs and should be given more of a chance, provided he sticks with us before FA.

As much as it pains me to say Ehlers leaving would open up a lot more breathing room in the short term but 100% makes us a weaker team in the short term as well. I was on the fence with Ehlers prior to this run but he's proven he can preform and make big game plays. It's a shame that it happened now as he's due for a raise.

 

[Mooche]

Listening to Kenny and Renny today on my drive today- Wiebe indicated on the topic of 2C that last year the Jets were interested and having some discussions about McMichael with the Capitals.

Things never really materialized with the Rutger scenario and he said he wasn't sure how follow along it got. But damn.

That would have been exactly the type of player needed to fit in that hole. Cheap cap hit (2.1M for this past season and next) into RFA.

Obviously with his breakout, the point is moot, but found it very interesting.

 

[Whileee]

Playing around on Puckpedia and if the Jets want to sign Ehlers, Vilardi, Samberg and Fleury they need to trade two of Stanley, Schenn or Miller. If they want to upgrade 2 C they probably need to trade at least one of Namestnkov, Iaffalo or Niederreiter, to make the cap work.

I think they'll be trading Schenn, especially if they re-sign Ehlers. Even without Ehlers, I think Schenn is likely to be traded.

 

[Hobble]

Listening to Kenny and Renny today on my drive today- Wiebe indicated on the topic of 2C that last year the Jets were interested and having some discussions about McMichael with the Capitals.

Things never really materialized with the Rutger scenario and he said he wasn't sure how follow along it got. But damn.

That would have been exactly the type of player needed to fit in that hole. Cheap cap hit (2.1M for this past season and next) into RFA.

Obviously with his breakout, the point is moot, but found it very interesting.

Goes to show that Chevy & Co. have a good eye for talent.

 

[WolfHouse]

I think they'll be trading Schenn, especially if they re-sign Ehlers. Even without Ehlers, I think Schenn is likely to be traded.

My hunch is that arniel is just in love with schenn the same way mo was in love with beaulieu

 

[RustyCat]

I think they'll be trading Schenn, especially if they re-sign Ehlers. Even without Ehlers, I think Schenn is likely to be traded.

I am in this camp as well. They need to make room for Elias. It's the law of diminishing returns for him to stay in the AHL.

 

[bustamente]

With Schenn it's all about his family situation, he's probably not moving them up here for a year and wants to be around so that leaves only one option.

 

[Whileee]

I am in this camp as well. They need to make room for Elias. It's the law of diminishing returns for him to stay in the AHL.

Also, Schenn's cap hit is too high for his likely role.

 

[Turin]

I think they'll be trading Schenn, especially if they re-sign Ehlers. Even without Ehlers, I think Schenn is likely to be traded.

Hope so.

 

[DRW204]

i am skeptical that they trade Schenn. the Jets seldom ever just trade out of someone after a v short tenure like that. and he's spoken good about the org., good locker room guy which are both things they probably like. & his cap hit isn't nearly 6M like Schmidt's was.

 

[RustyCat]

i am skeptical that they trade Schenn. the Jets seldom ever just trade out of someone after a v short tenure like that. and he's spoken good about the org., good locker room guy which are both things they probably like. & his cap hit isn't nearly 6M like Schmidt's was.

I think normally you are spot on about how the org kind of operates. But this TD was a bit different, and you heard from Arneil himself who said that too, where it was Uber competitive in landing players. Schenn was a good pick up but I feel that the Jets need to fill a role was high so there are conseasions to be had, like a guy with term that wasn't unreasonable.
Right now I think the emphasis on getting a guy like Salo is really high. There is a window and I think they learned with Heinola to seize opportunity more aggressively. This org is in win now mode, which is a very different approach that what was needed to get here
So to your point, normally the org is as you say and operates in those parameters. But I think the circumstances dictate a different approach, and I genuinely believe a guy like Schenn gets that and would not be surprised to have the team move him

 

[RustyCat]

In fact, I would not be surprised to see the org ship Schenn back to Nashville. You have heard it numerous times from him where he talks about his family and that it's tough to be away. This org is old fashion and puts a premium on treating it's employees right. So I can see them doing right by him

 

[surixon]

In fact, I would not be surprised to see the org ship Schenn back to Nashville. You have heard it numerous times from him where he talks about his family and that it's tough to be away. This org is old fashion and puts a premium on treating it's employees right. So I can see them doing right by him

I believe that is what is likely to happen. They will move him back home or to a place he and his family are willing to go.

 

[CanMerc]

I believe that is what is likely to happen. They will move him back home or to a place he and his family are willing to go.

Any chance we can convince Chevy to send Stanley along with him… as a pet maybe

 

[surixon]

Any chance we can convince Chevy to send Stanley along with him… as a pet maybe

I really have no idea what the plan is for Stanley going forward. He once again lost his role in the playoffs.

It seems Arniel likes size on that pairing but if Salomonsson does make the jump next year do they need Stanley for that role still?

Maybe he's packaged at the draft for something.

 

[CanMerc]

I really have no idea what the plan is for Stanley going forward. He once again lost his role in the playoffs.

It seems Arniel likes size on that pairing but if Salomonsson does make the jump next year do they need Stanley for that role still?

Maybe he's packaged at the draft for something.

I’d be happy with a 2 for 1 burger coupon from A&W

Seriously though, he should be moved, not only for our purposes, but also to give him a shot somewhere else.

 

[Jets 31]

If we don't sign Ehlers we sign Marner and now our 2nd center position is fixed. This free agency thingy is easy if you ask me.

 

[WolfHouse]

I really have no idea what the plan is for Stanley going forward. He once again lost his role in the playoffs.

It seems Arniel likes size on that pairing but if Salomonsson does make the jump next year do they need Stanley for that role still?

Maybe he's packaged at the draft for something.

I think stan lost his spot because of injury and he will be back in the lineup game 1

 

[surixon]

I think stan lost his spot because of injury and he will be back in the lineup game 1

Definitely a strong possibility.

 

[bustamente]

I think stan lost his spot because of injury and he will be back in the lineup game 1

Yup, signed for another year and the Jets are not ready to give up the ghost

 

[Huffer]

It’s very unlikely, but I could possibly see it if Tampa wanted to do a shake up for next season, after there early playoff exit this season, and as Cirelli’s trade protection doesn’t kick in til July 1st, he would be moveable…but again it’s extremely unlikely.
Would definitely cost, but I’d assume Ehlers rights would be included, and after that I’m curious what the ask would be.

I'd have to wonder that in a universe that the Bolts were thinking about moving Cirelli that it would be a cap move based on their current situation so I'm not sure if trying to extend Ehlers at a higher hit than Cirelli would be a move for them. I would be thinking either cheaper players that can actually play (and futures), or they might be looking for a hockey trade for a D (which we wouldn't be able to help with).

 

[Huffer]

Listening to Kenny and Renny today on my drive today- Wiebe indicated on the topic of 2C that last year the Jets were interested and having some discussions about McMichael with the Capitals.

Things never really materialized with the Rutger scenario and he said he wasn't sure how follow along it got. But damn.

That would have been exactly the type of player needed to fit in that hole. Cheap cap hit (2.1M for this past season and next) into RFA.

Obviously with his breakout, the point is moot, but found it very interesting.

That would have been nice, and the type of move everyone wants their GM to make I think.

Now I hope they try and find the next "pre breakout" McMichael.