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2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

I want to see what Toews can do before bringing him in, but if he can be an upgrade even on the bottom line, his experience could be a huge addition to our room.
Yup, I very much like the idea of signing Towes in around $ 2 mil, and plugging him in on one of the 2 bottom lines, and see how he does.

The guy is a winner and a leader, wherever he’s been. I hope Chevy signs him.
 
I'd be interested, but I have questions...

Why is he available? What's the asking price? Is a 5'9 centre really what we want/need?

Seems very odd to me that they'd be looking to move a productive young player. What do they even want for him? I can't imagine we'd have the piece they want or if we did be willing to part with it.

But I do agree with others that we need to diversify the mix in the top 6 and he wouldn't accomplish that.
 
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People assuming Teows will take less money to be here? A lot of teams will have interest. I don't think he'll be cheap but I'd love to see him here.
 
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People assuming Teows will take less money to be here? A lot of teams will have interest. I don't think he'll be cheap but I'd love to see him here.
Just my opinion, but Toews is a Mennonite, and they have a very tight knit community, and most know one another, and a lot of them attend their local churches. They are also very hard working people, especially in construction, and farming, and I think that’s where Toews hard work ethic comes from.

Toews isn’t in it for money anymore, as he has plenty. He also donated a lot of bucs to a St.Vital community club named after him.

I think if Jonathon comes back, the Jets would be very high on his list, because he’d like to make his family and friends proud of Manitoba.

I could be wrong about this, but I bet he spends a lot of time in Winnipeg, or Manitoba somewhere.
 
I’d run as fast as I could from Toews.

At least not without a tryout in camp.

Was never the fastest skater, and looked downright like a sloth near the end of his time in Chicago.
 
I’d run as fast as I could from Toews.

At least not without a tryout in camp.

Was never the fastest skater, and looked downright like a sloth near the end of his time in Chicago.
We’ve had guys who were good in the room before.
 
Even if you try to make a trade, you have to trade for a guy who wants to be here

There was smoke around Ehlers for Necas last summer, but Necas wouldn't extend here either

The only way around that is to trade a guy like Ehlers for futures

Hockey trades in the cap era are very difficult to pull off, and relatively rare for that reason. I think that you're oversimplifying the process
Well if they're young enough they have to come. I'm looking at this in the big picture not just a straight up replacement of player x or y. Of course each situation is different.

In my opinion this team may always need to be in flux somewhat because we won't always be able to keep some of our stars. If Ehlers walks and Conner balks were in big trouble after this year, below the bubble trouble.

We need to keep cupboards stuffed with picks and prospects. Not waste a 1st on a Monahan that you hope will sign. Complete waste of a pick. I mean waste assets on guys like Schenn and let Kova and Chisolm walk ? Not even try them.

There is next year and the year after to consider in our position and it's always going to be that way. I know it sucks but unless small cities with shitty roads become vogue were stuck.

I wonder what Ehlers plus a prospect or pick might fetched last off season. Maybe even to a place the Dutchman would want to sign.
 
Hmm. Late 30s, had a spiritual healing journey, hasn't played in a few years. Sure sign toews but don't expect him to score more than 20 points. With Lowry and Namestikov the jets have two very good penalty killing bottom 6 centers. I just don't see how Toews fits because that's the role he would have.
 
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Well if they're young enough they have to come. I'm looking at this in the big picture not just a straight up replacement of player x or y. Of course each situation is different.

In my opinion this team may always need to be in flux somewhat because we won't always be able to keep some of our stars. If Ehlers walks and Conner balks were in big trouble after this year, below the bubble trouble.

We need to keep cupboards stuffed with picks and prospects. Not waste a 1st on a Monahan that you hope will sign. Complete waste of a pick. I mean waste assets on guys like Schenn and let Kova and Chisolm walk ? Not even try them.

There is next year and the year after to consider in our position and it's always going to be that way. I know it sucks but unless small cities with shitty roads become vogue were stuck.

I wonder what Ehlers plus a prospect or pick might fetched last off season. Maybe even to a place the Dutchman would want to sign.
I think that Ehlers coming with an extension in hand would have brought decent value last summer, and I'm sure Chevy had discussions

As for 1st round picks... at the end of the 1st round, guys have about a 50% chance of playing 100 NHL games in their entire career. Now, one could take that fact say "that pick doesn't hold much value so I don't mind dealing it". Another person may take that fact and say "because of that, we need to have as many of them as possible so that we find one that hits". I find myself firmly with a foot in each camp lol
 
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Well if they're young enough they have to come. I'm looking at this in the big picture not just a straight up replacement of player x or y. Of course each situation is different.

In my opinion this team may always need to be in flux somewhat because we won't always be able to keep some of our stars. If Ehlers walks and Conner balks were in big trouble after this year, below the bubble trouble.

We need to keep cupboards stuffed with picks and prospects. Not waste a 1st on a Monahan that you hope will sign. Complete waste of a pick. I mean waste assets on guys like Schenn and let Kova and Chisolm walk ? Not even try them.

There is next year and the year after to consider in our position and it's always going to be that way. I know it sucks but unless small cities with shitty roads become vogue were stuck.

I wonder what Ehlers plus a prospect or pick might fetched last off season. Maybe even to a place the Dutchman would want to sign.
Connor isn’t going to balk. Jets will open the banks and he stays a jet the rest of his career like schief.
 
If Ehlers leaves how can anyone fault Chevy for keeping him as our own rental this season ? High value free agents aren't signing in Winnipeg so we basically got one for free for this years playoffs by keeping Ehlers at the deadline. Now if we were going to miss the playoffs this year then ya Chevy absolutely should have traded Ehlers.
Well except you've put in a lot to get this asset here don't forget so it hasn't been free. They're best hockey is played between 28-32 letting them walk for nothing is developing players a letting others get them for free. Not just free but they're best overall play years.
 
Well except you've put in a lot to get this asset here don't forget so it hasn't been free. They're best hockey is played between 28-32 letting them walk for nothing is developing players a letting others get them for free. Not just free but they're best overall play years.
UFA aren’t free. This is when players maximize their career earnings with their highest salaries often over several declining years after a last couple peak years. Quite often they end up getting bought out or teams end up paying to move out their contracts.
 
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Well except you've put in a lot to get this asset here don't forget so it hasn't been free. They're best hockey is played between 28-32 letting them walk for nothing is developing players a letting others get them for free. Not just free but they're best overall play years.
I’m quite certain that age for best years has dropped with top end guys entering the league ready to play immediately.
 
So I guess we should walk Connor to UFA after this season should he not sogn. I mean we got his best years and all that service and ticket sales. No point trading him.
Pretty simplistic to try to draw a parallel to these players.

We don't know what Connors intentions are. If he's hell bent on going to FA in the Jets specific case I would consider keeping him as an own rental depending on how the season plays out.

If we are leading the league again, I would seriously consider it. Helle, Schiefele and Morrissey aren't getting any younger.
 
That's what the OP said in 8609. Yeah there's zero benefit now. The whole crux of the discussion appears to be opportunity cost (foregone), choosing one path over the other and the benefits or missing out on them. The Jets get nothing when they could've received something in trading him last year, and they also didn't win a cup with him.

He spent 10 years and got paid 6m USD for 7 of them... People acting as if he played for free lol. And 7/10 years he had little to no options since the team owns his rights which of course equates to higher value early on. Is this what people really hanging their hat on? Evey single team has this benefit with a draft pick. What do you call having all this "value" and not capitalizing on it? What do they have to show for it in the trophy case?

And earlier: assigning 10m dollars of profit to Ehlers might be the biggest Logan Stanley style reach ever on here. As if the Jets were not going to sell out those games if he wasn't there. Like seriously?

I don't think hockey is as simple as capitalizing on value via trades all the time. Agree with the fan impact though. I don't think there are more than 5 or 6 players in the league who could impact attendance to a significant degree.
 
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Yup, I very much like the idea of signing Towes in around $ 2 mil, and plugging him in on one of the 2 bottom lines, and see how he does.

The guy is a winner and a leader, wherever he’s been. I hope Chevy signs him.
Hes only been in chicago
 
Well except you've put in a lot to get this asset here don't forget so it hasn't been free. They're best hockey is played between 28-32 letting them walk for nothing is developing players a letting others get them for free. Not just free but they're best overall play years.
That's not always the case. With year round training and off ice strength and conditioning becoming routine for teenaged players, I believe the prime years are closer to 23-28 now
 
Pretty simplistic to try to draw a parallel to these players.

We don't know what Connors intentions are. If he's hell bent on going to FA in the Jets specific case I would consider keeping him as an own rental depending on how the season plays out.

If we are leading the league again, I would seriously consider it. Helle, Schiefele and Morrissey aren't getting any younger.
Something that might make a difference with Connor is that he's on "Team Outdoors" with Helle, Iafallo, Cole, Samberg, etc... he loves to fish and bowhunt. Those guys tend to extend here
 

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