2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

Where/when do ppl see the Jets fwd prospects coming in realistically over the next few years? Barring injuries ofc to any of the current NHL players.

Lucius (who knows if he ever plays)
Chibrikov
Lambert
Yaeger
Barlow

Next year, I don't know if there's a full time role at top6 Wing... Vilardi is a RFA I think he'll get a 5+ year deal. Think the Jets will extend Perfetti a year early (5+ years) , and I am leaning toward Ehlers (5+ years) being re-signed at this present time. So essentially the entire top 6 wings are back. If Ehlers is not back, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities Jets don't find a replacement NHL quality top 6 winger as they'll have ample cap space.

Then KC the following year I beleive the Jets sign. So entire top 6 Wing accounted for in the next 5+ year range.

Scheifele as 1C, no one is displacing him. Think they still go with Namestnikov next year at the minimum. So possibly 2C in a couple years (Yaeger or Lambert).

Possibly a spot next to Lowry? I think the Jets will re-sign 1 or 2 of Tanev, Iafallo and Appleton and have them with Nino/Ehlers and Lowry.

I don't really see the Jets 4th line a good spot for those prospects. Would like to hear from those who actually follow them who have the versatility to play and flourish beyond a top 6 role... I think Chibrikov does hb Lambert? Barlow? :dunno:

Given the contracts signing I see 1 top 6 spot open in the near future. Idk which of these prospects have the versatility to play with Lowry and his line's identity, or if that's necessarily the best spot for them.
If we re-sign Ehlers, I can see Lambert getting some play with Nino and Lowry, and depending on how his camp goes and how he does to start the season, he could make it a full time gig.
If we don’t resign Ehlers, I see Lambert getting a look at the 2RW slot, but Chevy likely brings in a more experienced player to fill that spot longer term.

Ultimately, everything for next season heavily depends on how this team performs in the upcoming playoffs…if it’s another disappointing early exit, I expect some changes in the top 6 and beyond, possibly opening options for the youth to prove themselves and move up…but if they go deep and put up a fight, then it’s more likely Chevy does minor tweaks around the edges and in the areas he sees as weak in the playoffs…either way I expect Lambert gets the best chance to move up if he’s not moved to address a need in the offseason first.
Chib and maybe Salo will likely be close behind, with Barlow and Yager a year away
Lucius is a special situation with his health and how the org sees his durability
 
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Idk about Lambert with Lowry. Chibrikov seems better suited and stylistically for that role.

Do you think they extend one of Iafallo, Tanev or Appleton? If so, they may be vying over that spot next to Lowry and Nino.
 
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Idk about Lambert with Lowry. Chibrikov seems better suited and stylistically for that role.

Do you think they extend one of Iafallo, Tanev or Appleton? If so, they may be vying over that spot next to Lowry and Nino.
Chib would be a good fit there, but Lambert gives them the flexibility to move him up and down, depending where they need him. It depends on how the org sees Lambert, and the others, fitting in and how far along they see their development.
I hope they let Iafallo and Apples go. Both can be replaced internally for cheaper. Tanev is a harder call…he bring that grit we really need and if he’s willing to sign cheap enough I’d like to see him come back.
If they bring back Tanev, I can definitely see him with Nino and Lowry, but they could also put him on the bottom line, depending on what kind of line role they’re looking to build there.
The Jets are in the worst position for change overs with advancing prospects…we want our kids to get play time, but we’re also pushing for a Cup so we need our vets…it’s a juggling game of finding places to move in kids to save money you can spend elsewhere, but also without affecting chemistry and production.
As I’ve said regularly, I think we need a proper 2C and I’d like to see Chevy address that this offseason, so letting Iafallo and Apples go gives us some cap to spend there and depending on what we end up spending on extensions, we may need that and more.
 
If we re-sign Ehlers, I can see Lambert getting some play with Nino and Lowry, and depending on how his camp goes and how he does to start the season, he could make it a full time gig.
If we don’t resign Ehlers, I see Lambert getting a look at the 2RW slot, but Chevy likely brings in a more experienced player to fill that spot longer term.

Ultimately, everything for next season heavily depends on how this team performs in the upcoming playoffs…if it’s another disappointing early exit, I expect some changes in the top 6 and beyond, possibly opening options for the youth to prove themselves and move up…but if they go deep and put up a fight, then it’s more likely Chevy does minor tweaks around the edges and in the areas he sees as weak in the playoffs…either way I expect Lambert gets the best chance to move up if he’s not moved to address a need in the offseason first.
Chib and maybe Salo will likely be close behind, with Barlow and Yager a year away
Lucius is a special situation with his health and how the org sees his durability
It will be interesting. If Ehlers were signed, though I think that's just hope on the part of the faithful now, similar to Trouba situation, analytically charming, the bottom lines are going to be a flux.

Given that Iafallo also re-signing could knock any PP opportunities out of the lineup for young players (who gets demoted?), it's hard to see where any young scorer fits.

Arniel considered Chibrikov for bottom 6 but didn't give him any opportunity. I think if you are matching up Lowry with league's best players you want guys who don't make coverage mistakes. That's a hard role for Lambert or Chibrikov to step into.

Arniel did give Parker Ford a bottom 6 opportunity and he played over Lambert in the 4th line role in a winning streak that carried to the 4 Nations. Lambo got the last game, and was definitely not as effective in the crash and bang Arniel was looking for. And Ford scored more goals than Chibrikov or Lambert on the Moose.
He's looking like he could be available for Rd. 1 of the playoffs, so that could be telling on how Arniel sees Lambert and Ford.

Given the lack of RH shots at forward (with Vilardi, Kupari out), I think there's an opportunity for Ford to carve out a 4th line role. Killing penalties. That will be the guy that likely replaces Appleton if Appleton goes.

I don't think Arniel deviates too much from his game plan next season. Might not have the personnel he did this year though.

However if you had told me at the beginning of the season the Jets would lose Toffoli and Monahan, then lose Dillon and Schmidt and replace them with Fleury and Heinola, while promoting Samberg, Stanley and Miller and have Comrie replace Brossoit, only to be 1st in the league 8 games from the finish line I wouldn't have believed you.
 
I’m going to try to keep an eye on Kuzmenko tonight. He’s a UFA at season’s end. Maybe the Jets would be interested in signing him.
 
If Ehlers extends, maybe Arniel keeps him with Lowry and Nino and Lambert slides in with Names and Perfetti on a super sheltered skilled 3rd line?
 
It will be interesting. If Ehlers were signed, though I think that's just hope on the part of the faithful now, similar to Trouba situation, analytically charming, the bottom lines are going to be a flux.

Given that Iafallo also re-signing could knock any PP opportunities out of the lineup for young players (who gets demoted?), it's hard to see where any young scorer fits.

Arniel considered Chibrikov for bottom 6 but didn't give him any opportunity. I think if you are matching up Lowry with league's best players you want guys who don't make coverage mistakes. That's a hard role for Lambert or Chibrikov to step into.

Arniel did give Parker Ford a bottom 6 opportunity and he played over Lambert in the 4th line role in a winning streak that carried to the 4 Nations. Lambo got the last game, and was definitely not as effective in the crash and bang Arniel was looking for. And Ford scored more goals than Chibrikov or Lambert on the Moose.
He's looking like he could be available for Rd. 1 of the playoffs, so that could be telling on how Arniel sees Lambert and Ford.

Given the lack of RH shots at forward (with Vilardi, Kupari out), I think there's an opportunity for Ford to carve out a 4th line role. Killing penalties. That will be the guy that likely replaces Appleton if Appleton goes.

I don't think Arniel deviates too much from his game plan next season. Might not have the personnel he did this year though.

However if you had told me at the beginning of the season the Jets would lose Toffoli and Monahan, then lose Dillon and Schmidt and replace them with Fleury and Heinola, while promoting Samberg, Stanley and Miller and have Comrie replace Brossoit, only to be 1st in the league 8 games from the finish line I wouldn't have believed you.
Yeah this is a really good summary. Ford does fit that 4th line energy role like a glove. I cant imagine we don't bring back at least 2 of Iafallo, Appleton and Tanev if Ehlers leaves.

Like you said, Lambert and Chibrikov do not fit a dedicated top line shut down unit. They do fit well if Ehlers leaves and a top six wing spot opens up. Also opens up a PP spot with Perfetti almost surely moving up to PP1.

I'd bet on Chibrikov winning out next fall but no one knows for sure. I imagine the winner of that competition would trade off and on with a bottom six vet like Iafallo (if back) or a UFA. Runner up would be back to the Moose.
 
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If Ehlers extends, maybe Arniel keeps him with Lowry and Nino and Lambert slides in with Names and Perfetti on a super sheltered skilled 3rd line?
I can't see Ehlers re-signing if that's where he fits. Give him $10 mill + to play alongside Pettersson, Celebrini or Horvat and that's probably a better fit for his skillset.

The guy I wonder about is Yager. How long does it take him? For me he makes a 4th line player like Kupari expendable. Because he'll take the d-zone draws. And kill penalties.

I could see something like

Connor- Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-Yager-Iafallo (able to play in either end of the rink)
Barron-Lowry-Appleton (hard shut down minutes)
Nino-Namestnikov-Chibrikov/Lambert (sheltered o-zone starts)
 
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If Ehlers leaves, I'm worried that the Jets will go from having a 2a/2b line situation to a 3a/3b situation.

I think there's often too much optimism around rookies making a big impact, unless they are real stars. Even top AHL prospects like Stankoven and Bourque translated into 40- and 30-point forwards as rookies. That's a big drop from a consistent 60-70 point F like Ehlers, especially considering Ehlers' most consistent linemates and usage.
 
It will be interesting. If Ehlers were signed, though I think that's just hope on the part of the faithful now, similar to Trouba situation, analytically charming, the bottom lines are going to be a flux.

Given that Iafallo also re-signing could knock any PP opportunities out of the lineup for young players (who gets demoted?), it's hard to see where any young scorer fits.

Arniel considered Chibrikov for bottom 6 but didn't give him any opportunity. I think if you are matching up Lowry with league's best players you want guys who don't make coverage mistakes. That's a hard role for Lambert or Chibrikov to step into.

Arniel did give Parker Ford a bottom 6 opportunity and he played over Lambert in the 4th line role in a winning streak that carried to the 4 Nations. Lambo got the last game, and was definitely not as effective in the crash and bang Arniel was looking for. And Ford scored more goals than Chibrikov or Lambert on the Moose.
He's looking like he could be available for Rd. 1 of the playoffs, so that could be telling on how Arniel sees Lambert and Ford.

Given the lack of RH shots at forward (with Vilardi, Kupari out), I think there's an opportunity for Ford to carve out a 4th line role. Killing penalties. That will be the guy that likely replaces Appleton if Appleton goes.

I don't think Arniel deviates too much from his game plan next season. Might not have the personnel he did this year though.

However if you had told me at the beginning of the season the Jets would lose Toffoli and Monahan, then lose Dillon and Schmidt and replace them with Fleury and Heinola, while promoting Samberg, Stanley and Miller and have Comrie replace Brossoit, only to be 1st in the league 8 games from the finish line I wouldn't have believed you.
Very good points on Ehlers resigning.
If Chevy thinks his rookies can step in ... I don't see Chevy offering Ehlers a contract. Don't get me wrong Ehlers's speed and talent can't be replaced but eventually you have to play your rookies or you lose them. Just look at Dillon ... he wanted to stay but the Jets knew Samberg was ready to move into a top 4 D role and they were right.
Also Chevy will probably only sign one of these UFAs ... Iafallo, Appleton or Tanev.
While its easy for us to discuss who to pay and who to let go ... no one is talking about Connor or Perfetti because they have one more year but the moves Chevy makes this summer effects those two next year.
 
Very good points on Ehlers resigning.
If Chevy thinks his rookies can step in ... I don't see Chevy offering Ehlers a contract. Don't get me wrong Ehlers's speed and talent can't be replaced but eventually you have to play your rookies or you lose them. Just look at Dillon ... he wanted to stay but the Jets knew Samberg was ready to move into a top 4 D role and they were right.
Also Chevy will probably only sign one of these UFAs ... Iafallo, Appleton or Tanev.
While its easy for us to discuss who to pay and who to let go ... no one is talking about Connor or Perfetti because they have one more year but the moves Chevy makes this summer effects those two next year.
Everyone is talking about Connor and how he is going to get between 10-12 million.
 
I can't see Ehlers re-signing if that's where he fits. Give him $10 mill + to play alongside Pettersson, Celebrini or Horvat and that's probably a better fit for his skillset.

The guy I wonder about is Yager. How long does it take him? For me he makes a 4th line player like Kupari expendable. Because he'll take the d-zone draws. And kill penalties.

I could see something like

Connor- Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-Yager-Iafallo (able to play in either end of the rink)
Barron-Lowry-Appleton (hard shut down minutes)
Nino-Namestnikov-Chibrikov/Lambert (sheltered o-zone starts)
I think Yager will need some time in the AHL for no other reason than he needs to fill out physically... especially to play C effectively at the NHL level
 
If Ehlers leaves, I'm worried that the Jets will go from having a 2a/2b line situation to a 3a/3b situation.

I think there's often too much optimism around rookies making a big impact, unless they are real stars. Even top AHL prospects like Stankoven and Bourque translated into 40- and 30-point forwards as rookies. That's a big drop from a consistent 60-70 point F like Ehlers, especially considering Ehlers' most consistent linemates and usage.
You are absolutely right ... the 2nd line's play will drop off but in order to become good and get that experience you have to play. Just look at Samberg and Perfetti once they got that experience and learned how to play the game ... it became easy for them. Now they look like they are rounding out to becoming star players for the Jets. Not every rookie is a McDavid that can step in and make a difference right off the bat.
 
Everyone is talking about Connor and how he is going to get between 10-12 million.
I don't see one post about people worried about him leaving after next year and they shouldn't be.
I don't even know why they are talking about Ehlers anyways.
Jets are pushing for 1st place with 8 games to go with playoffs right around the corner ... enjoy it worry about Ehlers after winning the Cup I say.:D

:sc09::jets
 
I don't see one post about people worried about him leaving after next year and they shouldn't be.
I don't even know why they are talking about Ehlers anyways.
Jets are pushing for 1st place with 8 games to go with playoffs right around the corner ... enjoy it worry about Ehlers after winning the Cup I say.:D

:sc09::jets
Difference is, I think Connor isn't leaving. They are going to pay him whatever he is worth and then call it a day. Ehlers is more controversial after all he is scoring like a 1st liner, but, there is no 1st line roles available so he will never get the money or position.
To invest in him the same way would be seen as a waste he only plays 14 minutes a game, therefore, not as much bang for the buck.
 
I think Yager will need some time in the AHL for no other reason than he needs to fill out physically... especially to play C effectively at the NHL level
I'm hoping that he is our Wyatt Johnston impact 1st rd pick, in replacing Mc Groarty. I think that is the Jets only hope of closing the gap talent wise on Dallas. Salomonsson being a top 4 pedigree defenseman is the other. But I agree to play center in the NHL comes with some patience in the process.

The Jets don't rush players but Johnston breaking through at 19 is something the Jets haven't seen since Ehlers.

Depending on how Chevy moves losing Ehlers could be a setback to the team. But there may be some appetite to get back to a top 20 draft position to keep competing in the Central. Jets are still well positioned ahead of Minnesota, Nashville and Chicago. Colorado has no draft prospects now
 
Difference is, I think Connor isn't leaving. They are going to pay him whatever he is worth and then call it a day. Ehlers is more controversial after all he is scoring like a 1st liner, but, there is no 1st line roles available so he will never get the money or position.
To invest in him the same way would be seen as a waste he only plays 14 minutes a game, therefore, not as much bang for the buck.
Ehlers is averaging 16:00 a game this season, which is where he says he's happy
 
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I really hope we can keep Ehlers. Faults aside, you simply cannot replace that production - especially for a small market, low FA destination team - needs all the help it can get to keep winning and have a chance for a cup one of these year with Helle. He’s already got the locker room chemistry and bonds with the org.

Of course if there’s nothing to keep him with the Jets in his mind after this year, so be it. His choice and he would have earned that choice.

But if it’s a situation where he wants to sign or is interested in signing but management feels differently, aren’t “really going to entertain it” situation, and let him walk to FA (like Dillon) then I wouldn’t be ok with that, personally.
 
I think you are very very wrong.

Chibrikov could have played this year. I don't know if Lamberts going to be able to translate his game to the NHL.

The feather in Nikitas cap is he is extremely versatile.
Both will have a tough time making it. Chib wasn't scoring much in the AHL but does have a good shot and tenacity. Could see him as a bottom six on the right team.

Lambert is a faster player with more upside but really depends on his wingers, and other players. Speed and good puck control, decent shot, pp player. He would have to make a step. His IQ is there though.
 
This is interesting, definitely the opposite of what I would think. To me Lambert is flashier and more dynamic where Chibrikov is more adept at playing in the short areas and along the boards. I saw a more assertive player at the NHL level.

Both have NHL level passing and shot

I can see Lambert's forechecking being a great asset at NHL level. And we know he has the skill to finish plays. I just think he will need time to learn how to adapt his game to playoff style hockey. That stuff can take years.

Everyone sees these guys differently though, it's all good
Ya, both would need to make a big step and I hope they do. Lambert being a potential 2C would be great.
 
If you don't make the NHL by the 3rd year of your ELC the road usually opens up elsewhere. I'm hoping Namestnikov can help him grow into a pro, if not he's a much more valuable asset than a Lucius or Vesalainen.
For sure. I think Lambi could replace Names. He has more speed and finish.
 
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You are absolutely right ... the 2nd line's play will drop off but in order to become good and get that experience you have to play. Just look at Samberg and Perfetti once they got that experience and learned how to play the game ... it became easy for them. Now they look like they are rounding out to becoming star players for the Jets. Not every rookie is a McDavid that can step in and make a difference right off the bat.
Samberg was much closer to impact player when he joined the Jets, and then had two full seasons on the 3rd pair before breaking out as a star this season.

This is Perfetti's 3rd NHL season and he was always a much higher end prospect and better AHL producer than any AHL prospects in the system now.

The Jets are ready and need to win now, not after a couple of development seasons for new offensive forwards.

I'm all for bringing in young forwards, but to add to Ehlers not to replace him. None are close to the level of Ehlers (or Perfetti) this season. The Jets can't afford to wait with Scheifele, Hellebuyck, Connor, Liwry and Morrissey in their prime years.
 

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