Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Jets 31]

at 5v5 at least, perfetti has underperformed this year again. he & appleton are scoring at the same rate given their TOI, & Appleton w/ a much lesser offensive role. Either would be viable potential upgrade spots for a deep PO run, although the 2nd line has been performing better as of the last 10 or so games. IMO a versatile top-9 winger would be beneficial to the 3rd line with possible 2nd line upside. Palmieri imo is a solid player for this, and likely isn't returning a 1st. 13 5v5 goals is way more than Appleton and Perfetti.

I've been very happy with Perfetti's game lately. He is playing a good 2 way game.

 

[Whileee]

Reports are Habs want 2nd pick for Evans, if the trade with Flyers doesn't work out Evans might be a ok cheap replacement

I'd prefer Evans over Laughton to be honest. Evans has great speed and tenacity. Laughton is more of a gritty plugger. I don't see him as much of an improvement over Kupari or Gus, to be honest.

I guess Laughton might be seen to have a bit more value because he's signed for next year, too.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I wouldn't be reading much into what the line is labeled. I have watched each of the last 5 Moose games and he's getting significant minutes, including all offensive situations.

Him playing RW is the more interesting and possibly concerning aspect.

The RW is telling, but not concerning imo. He wasn't going to be a C in this league. He is a "fly" style winger. I could see him on 2RW as soon as next October. If Fly Sr. was left wing and Lowry or Names was C, that could be an effective line. Or if they were so inclined to move Perfetti for Cozens, maybe FlySr-Workhorse-FlyJr.

 

[Whileee]

It’s about expectations, Monahan was trash when we needed him most and some of us said he would be. Slow, soft as butter, can’t drive a line, etc, etc. Problem was the Jets got him needing him as a 2C which he absolutely is not on any good playoff team. Hated that trade and I was very vocal about that.

Evan’s isn’t a 2C no issues there, so that shouldn’t be expected from him. He’s a bottom six forward who plays wing and center well, he can play the PK well.

I’ve seen same rumours but Habs GM is a slime ball agent at heart, don’t believe a thing he says or leaks. No interest in Armia we dumped him at a good time, no interest in him back. Evans would only be interesting if all the big fish didn’t work out, can’t say Brock or ROR or bust, especially in Winnipeg.

I would love either Brock or ROR, term is a pro con so doesn’t add much for me, Brock skating is a bit better I think, ROR is bit better defensively I think, both can score points.

Would love to get

Brock/ROR

Dumoulin

But based on Chevys comments it has to be perfect fit chemistry wise, so that will also limit who chevy looks at

Nelson is a much better skater than ROR. ROR is very effective in anticipation and tenacity. Overall, I think Nelson is a better fit. I wonder if they can get him as a rental and then throw a big AAV contract with short term at him to keep him for 2-3 years. He could really make that 2-3 line dangerous, plus juice the 2nd PP.

 

[Buffdog]

Agreed. This org actually needs to give these kids a legit run of games at C in the show to see if they can handle it. A few games here and there doesn't say anything about their long term prospects at that position.

This org is far too impatient with developing centers these days. Can you imagine if they moved Mark to wing back in the day because he took a good 20 plus games before he got comfortable at that position at the NHL level.

I think Lambert spending some time on the wing might have something to do with the direction of the Ehlers negotiation, along with Yager's emergence as the likely long term solution at 2C

Realistically, Yager is only a year or two behind Lambert in terms of development and the Names extension stop gaps the 2C spot until he's likely knocking on the door. His game is already "pro ready" in a lot of ways, he just needs to fill out

 

[gojetsgo]

what if it wasn't risto the jets were interested in but sanheim instead

 

[Jet]

Nelson is a much better skater than ROR. ROR is very effective in anticipation and tenacity. Overall, I think Nelson is a better fit. I wonder if they can get him as a rental and then throw a big AAV contract with short term at him to keep him for 2-3 years. He could really make that 2-3 line dangerous, plus juice the 2nd PP.

Plus, if anyone likes hot daddies he can add that to the roster

 

[surixon]

I think Lambert spending some time on the wing might have something to do with the direction of the Ehlers negotiation, along with Yager's emergence as the likely long term solution at 2C

Realistically, Yager is only a year or two behind Lambert in terms of development and the Names extension stop gaps the 2C spot until he's likely knocking on the door. His game is already "pro ready" in a lot of ways, he just needs to fill out

That is a good point. If the Ehlers thing isn't going well then the likely in house replacement is Brad. It would also also Cole to move back to his preferred side.

I also think they have switched gears to Yager filling that role as his game is more along the lines of what they value for the role. I'd still like to see Cole given a shot at the position as his all around game seems to be at the point where he can handle it but my guess is that ship has sailed.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Nelson is a much better skater than ROR. ROR is very effective in anticipation and tenacity. Overall, I think Nelson is a better fit. I wonder if they can get him as a rental and then throw a big AAV contract with short term at him to keep him for 2-3 years. He could really make that 2-3 line dangerous, plus juice the 2nd PP.

does. he. fish.

 

[Mooche]

what if it wasn't risto the jets were interested in but sanheim instead

Didn't think they'd get much traction asking a 1st plus for Risto, according to Frank.

That's a pipe dream.

 

[CanMerc]

what if it wasn't risto the jets were interested in but sanheim instead

Let’s hope this is true about Risto.
See no reason to pay the big price to get Sanheim just to knock Samberg down after how’s he’s played to earn his slot. It would be a bad move by WPG and likely guarantee a trade request by Samberg.

 

[DRW204]

The RW is telling, but not concerning imo. He wasn't going to be a C in this league. He is a "fly" style winger. I could see him on 2RW as soon as next October. If Fly Sr. was left wing and Lowry or Names was C, that could be an effective line. Or if they were so inclined to move Perfetti for Cozens, maybe FlySr-Workhorse-FlyJr.

yeah there's always a risk he wasn't going to be a C. for top-6 hopeful prospects though there may not be alot of room for them in the medium term with the only spot that i see really availble is 1xtop-6 C and 1xWinger (pending 2025 UFA)

imo here for a while:
scheifele (long-term deal)
vilardi (RFAs, team control)
perfetti (RFAs, team control)
KC (1 year left, I believe he extends)

then:
ehlers (ufa, believe the teams wants to extend him, we'll see)
Names (2x3m, can move down the lineup)

so 1-2 spots, barring any trades... if ehlers is re-signed then it's 1 potential spot really at C, so one of Lambert or Yaeger will need to excel there. I think Yaeger is AHL bound next year and Lambert will be in the nhl in some capacity.

are any of them a stylistic fit on lowry's line? i think chibrikov may be and would replace appleton.

 

[CanMerc]

Nelson is a much better skater than ROR. ROR is very effective in anticipation and tenacity. Overall, I think Nelson is a better fit. I wonder if they can get him as a rental and then throw a big AAV contract with short term at him to keep him for 2-3 years. He could really make that 2-3 line dangerous, plus juice the 2nd PP.

I think ROR is the better fit. Brings the type of game we need and is signed at a very reasonable cap hit for 2 more years.

 

[Whileee]

I think ROR is the better fit. Brings the type of game we need and is signed at a very reasonable cap hit for 2 more years.

Either would be good.

 

[CanMerc]

yeah there's always a risk he wasn't going to be a C. for top-6 hopeful prospects though there may not be alot of room for them in the medium term with the only spot that i see really availble is 1xtop-6 C and 1xWinger (pending 2025 UFA)

imo here for a while:
scheifele (long-term deal)
vilardi (RFAs, team control)
perfetti (RFAs, team control)
KC (1 year left, I believe he extends)

then:
ehlers (ufa, believe the teams wants to extend him, we'll see)
Names (2x3m, can move down the lineup)

so 1-2 spots, barring any trades... if ehlers is re-signed then it's 1 potential spot really at C, so one of Lambert or Yaeger will need to excel there. I think Yaeger is AHL bound next year and Lambert will be in the nhl in some capacity.

I see Lambert as more of an RW/C in the NHL. Someone who can play C when needed but better fit on the wing. I’ve always seen him as the 2RW we have needed…but based on play, that might be wishful thinking

 

[Buffdog]

I think ROR is the better fit. Brings the type of game we need and is signed at a very reasonable cap hit for 2 more years.

ROR would be perfect, but I don't think he's an option for us. Sounds like Trotz gave him the unofficial NMC

 

[CanMerc]

Either would be good.

True, but if we get ROR we don’t have to worry about getting him to stay…where as Nelson is a rental we would need to re-sign and I don’t think he would.

 

[10Ducky10]

Well assuming we pick up someone at the TDL then nobody, roster spots aren't limited so we good as long as everyone fits under the cap of course.

I'm not sure if that is true. If we put somebody on the roster the day before the trade deadline we will have to waive somebody. If we put somebody on after the trade line I'm not sure that they can play in the playoffs.

 

[CanMerc]

I'm not sure if that is true. If we put somebody on the roster the day before the trade deadline we will have to waive somebody. If we put somebody on after the trade line I'm not sure that they can play in the playoffs.

It’s possible we move a roster player in any deal. Opening a spot for the new acquisition.

 

[10Ducky10]

It’s possible we move a roster player in any deal. Opening a spot for the new acquisition.

Yup

 

[Romang67]

ROR would be perfect, but I don't think he's an option for us. Sounds like Trotz gave him the unofficial NMC

Understandable. The team Trotz has assembled is doing more than well enough for him to hamstring the team even more by handing out unofficial NMCs.

 

[surixon]

what if it wasn't risto the jets were interested in but sanheim instead

They were interested a few years ago but imo the cost to get him now is likely quite prohibitive given the year he's having.

 

[Buffdog]

They were interested a few years ago but imo the cost to get him now is likely quite prohibitive given the year he's having.

I think Chevy's interest in Risto might be connected to the Pionk contract talks

Wouldn't surprise me if Chevy has told Pionk's camp that an extension has to be done by the deadline or else he'll have to do something to aquire a guy with term

I wouldn't trade a 1st for Laughton or Risto alone, but I'd include it in a deal for both

 

[surixon]

I think Chevy's interest in Risto might be connected to the Pionk contract talks

Wouldn't surprise me if Chevy has told Pionk's camp that an extension has to be done by the deadline or else he'll have to do something to aquire a guy with term

I wouldn't trade a 1st for Laughton or Risto alone, but I'd include it in a deal for both

Very possible. Not sure I'd be using the deadline to try to plug long term holes that could be opened by FA walking in the summer. But maybe it serves as an incentive for Pionk to ink an extension by next Friday.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

I'm not sure if that is true. If we put somebody on the roster the day before the trade deadline we will have to waive somebody. If we put somebody on after the trade line I'm not sure that they can play in the playoffs.

I forgot about Barron being on IR and was wondering why we had a free roster spot, so yeah assuming he activates before TDL (assume he will) then either we move someone the other way which is likely or waive someone.