Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[surixon]

But will they though?

Every year there is at least 1 team that appears to have substantially upgraded by the TD. Then they play the games. Sometimes it works out. Some times it does not. Quite often it does not.

Yup, look at how everyone thought Nashville won FA this summer. Chemistry is a very real thing. You need to add the pieces that can fit in with what you have. We have seen examples both good and bad for the Jets at the deadline.

If Chevy can find a player that fits both on and off the ice then he should grab it, but getting pieces juat cause our rivals got pieces isn't going to help.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So comparing Schenn and Namestnikov
Schenn 11 goals and 21 assists for 32 points in 56 games played
Namestnikov 10 goals and 19 assists for 29 points in 52 games played
Schenn making 6.5 million for the next 3 years
Namestnikov making 2 million this year and next
Namestnikov is a very good bargain if you ask me

Yes, but he is not signed for next year.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

So comparing Schenn and Namestnikov
Schenn 11 goals and 21 assists for 32 points in 56 games played
Namestnikov 10 goals and 19 assists for 29 points in 52 games played
Schenn making 6.5 million for the next 3 years
Namestnikov making 2 million this year and next
Namestnikov is a very good bargain if you ask me

What do their stats look like over their careers besides this season?

I love names, but he has no finish. With his chances he should have 20 goals.

Not saying a schenn is the answer - just disagree with the premise of the comparison.

Still think you’re dope though jets31!

 

[surixon]

What do their stats look like over their careers besides this season?

I love names, but he has no finish. With his chances he should have 20 goals.

Not saying a schenn is the answer - just disagree with the premise of the comparison.

Still think you’re dope though jets31!

That is clearly Schenn. But he's also older and isn't what he was in his prime. Still a low end 2C with grit.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Wonder what it would take to get Kyrou... no trade protection and 8m is reasonable

1st, perfetti and heinola? Or lambert?

 

[DRW204]

Wonder what it would take to get Kyrou... no trade protection and 8m is reasonable

1st, perfetti and heinola? Or lambert?

Kyrou would be a tremendous get.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

What do their stats look like over their careers besides this season?

I love names, but he has no finish. With his chances he should have 20 goals.

Not saying a schenn is the answer - just disagree with the premise of the comparison.

Still think you’re dope though jets31!

Their career numbers are ancient history at this point in their careers. Schenn is clearly in decline. We can't even be sure that his first half of this season won't be better than his second half. And he has a substantial contract for 3 more years.

Names is a year younger and not carrying a boat anchor contract. He is still playing near his peak. No signs of decline yet.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Wonder what it would take to get Kyrou... no trade protection and 8m is reasonable

1st, perfetti and heinola? Or lambert?

StL will be looking to retool around him and a few others. Not sure that would be enough.

 

[surixon]

StL will be looking to retool around him and a few others. Not sure that would be enough.

Yup, no idea why everyone always thinks that teams willingly give up real good young talent. St. Louis as we saw with their offsersheets last summer will be looking to add more not subtract from their young crop of players.

Kyru is likely untouchable as are most of their mid to early 20's group.

 

[Jets 31]

What do their stats look like over their careers besides this season?

I love names, but he has no finish. With his chances he should have 20 goals.

Not saying a schenn is the answer - just disagree with the premise of the comparison.

Still think you’re dope though jets31!

Don't get me wrong there is definitely room to upgrade Namestnikov, would love going into the playoffs with Namestnikov playing on the 3rd line with Lowry and Neo . I like Kupari as the 4th center because of his speed, then throw Appleton and Barron with Kupari and that's a very fast 4th line. I would like someone better than Schenn to replace Namestnikov though especially at 6.5 million a year.

 

[Jets 31]

Still think if Chevy was going to swing big Barzal would be the guy to get. I think Barzal would waive his NTC for a chance to be on a contender .
Scheifele
Barzal
Lowry
Kupari
That would be amazing strength down the middle.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Still think if Chevy was going to swing big Barzal would be the guy to get.

The Isles aren't trading Barzal especially once they lose Nelson, moving another top centre is out of the question even for someone as senile as Lou not to mention the guy just had knee surgery and is out for 4-6 weeks.

Just not gonna happen brudda.

 

[Hunter368]

Still think if Chevy was going to swing big Barzal would be the guy to get. I think Barzal would waive his NTC for a chance to be on a contender .
Scheifele
Barzal
Lowry
Kupari
That would be amazing strength down the middle.

Cant see NYI trading Barzal as much as I would love it

 

[surixon]

I personally don't want Barzal. He's far too much of an individual perimeter player.

I'm not really sure we'd have the pieces to mesh with his game style.

 

[Wpgpage]

Could be unrelated to the Jets but Briere and Jones were both present in person last night watching Colby Barlow (among others) play last night.

 

[voyageur]

they sent ford/lambert down during days off before the 4 nations break to gain more deadline space, nothing may end up coming from it depending on the market but they sure as hell are looking to make a bigger move then just depth adds

the rumors we got on the jets from the insiders have been that we would be looking hard at nelson if he becomes available or would be going after the best available forward depending if ehlers/lowry work well together

Just a question? Who is a Jets insider?
Dreger would be the closest I think? Friedman might know things from agents. Does Wiebe have any connections whatsoever?

Specifically wondering about that Lowry/Ehlers comment.

Anyone else I would give as much credibility as any poster here. In fact some probably get their info from here.

 

[gojetsgo]

Just a question? Who is a Jets insider?
Dreger would be the closest I think? Friedman might know things from agents. Does Wiebe have any connections whatsoever?

Anyone else I would give as much credibility as any poster here. In fact some probably get their info from here.

if I had to order the rankings between insiders it would proably go:
dreger

big gap

lebrun/friedman/johnston

big gap

pagnotta/seravalli

big gap

wiebe/other beat reporters

 

[Jets 31]

The Isles aren't trading Barzal especially once they lose Nelson, moving another top centre is out of the question even for someone as senile as Lou not to mention the guy just had knee surgery and is out for 4-6 weeks.

Just not gonna happen brudda.

Would Nelson be a good 2nd center ? Good size, can score goals. No contract next year but he will be 34 next year.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Would Nelson be a good 2nd center ? Good size, can score goals. No contract next year but he will be 34 next year.

He would be an upgrade on Vlad in almost every way, great face off guy as well, I could see him gelling with Ehlers and Fetts very nicely, as a pure rental he is probably the best option for our 2C heading into the playoffs.

That said it all comes down to cost (and if he will actually waive for us) I don't mind paying a first + prospect not named Salo or Yager but with all that said I would still prefer we target Cozens, bigger risk and maybe not as impactful as Brock would be off the bat but it could solve our 2C woes for a long time if the risk pays off.

 

[DRW204]

they sent ford/lambert down during days off before the 4 nations break to gain more deadline space, nothing may end up coming from it depending on the market but they sure as hell are looking to make a bigger move then just depth adds

the rumors we got on the jets from the insiders have been that we would be looking hard at nelson if he becomes available or would be going after the best available forward depending if ehlers/lowry work well together

I agree. The Jets would benefit from the best Fwd available they could get their hands on.

Of the top 9fwds: the +finishers on this team are Connor, Scheifele, Ehlers, Vilardi and Lowry.
Appleton closer to mid, and Perfetti, Namestnikov, and probably Nino closer to non-finishers (Namestnikov doesn't have a lot of shot volume though hence why sh% looks good but versus quality he does not).

Reference:

I'm not overly concerned if it's C or W that they get. Ideally you'd want a center however the names on here, other than Nelson, don't move the needle at all for me....Schenn with that contract? Rather just stick with Namestnikov. Frederic? Isn't even a top 6er on his own team.

Id be fine if the Jets spend like a 2nd+ for a good Winger, and then go after a surefire 2C with their 1st+ in the off-season, when some of those deals for players with term are more likely to happen as teams reshape their rosters.

The PP will always be there for the Jets but concern would be if they aren't getting the calls in the PO's. Then, they essentially have 1 consistently threatening line in CSV (as mentioned above 3/5 of the +finishers are on the same line). IMO they could use another reliable scorer in their top6-9.

 

[voyageur]

I agree. The Jets would benefit from the best Fwd available they could get their hands on.

Of the top 9fwds: the +finishers on this team are Connor, Scheifele, Ehlers, Vilardi and Lowry.
Nino and Appleton closer to mid, and Perfetti and Namestnikov closer to non-finishers (Namestnikov doesn't have a lot of shot volume though)

I'm not overly concerned if it's C or W that they get. Ideally you'd want a center however the names on here, other than Nelson, don't move the needle at all for me....Schenn with that contract? Rather just stick with Namestnikov. Frederic? Isn't even a top 6er on his own team.

Id be fine if the Jets spend like a 2nd+ for a good Winger, and then go after a surefire 2C with their 1st+ in the off-season, when some of those deals for players with term are more likely to happen as teams reshape their rosters.

The PP will always be there for the Jets but concern would be if they aren't getting the calls in the PO's. Then essentially they have 1 consistently threatening line in CSV. IMO they could use another reliable scorer in their top6-9.

You don't think the Jets are going to give Yager a shot in TC? Some say he's still too small but he's 5 lbs lighter than Jack Hughes currently. I wouldn't waste a 1st on a C.

I'd be looking for some defense with a 1st round pick, to fill the void that is going to get bigger if ignored.

 

[DRW204]

You don't think the Jets are going to give Yager a shot in TC? Some say he's still too small but he's 5 lbs lighter than Jack Hughes currently. I wouldn't waste a 1st on a C.

I'd be looking for some defense with a 1st round pick, to fill the void that is going to get bigger if ignored

No he's probably in the AHL imo. I don't buy any of the commentary from the Jets about prospects making the team out of camp. Had ppl on here hooped about Salo, Lambert, Chibrikov being on opening day roster.

and ok he's a bit lighter than Hughes, how about in speed, playing making, scoring, almost everything else

It's not wasting a 1st at all if it's a good player with term. There's a chance Yaeger is not a top 6er, or a center, or even ready to be a nhl contributor next year.

 

[voyageur]

No he's probably in the AHL imo. I don't buy any of the commentary from the Jets about prospects making the team out of camp. Had ppl on here hooped about Salo, Lambert, Chibrikov being on opening day roster.

and ok he's a bit lighter than Hughes, how about in speed, playing making, scoring, almost everything else?

A 181 lb. Namestnikov has done well in the role he's competing for. Yager's obviously not #1 overall pedigree, but to do the things Namestnikov has done to work on that line and make it to +18, what does he need to improve? Skating is probably #1. But there may be things he does better already, like win draws.

2nd how do the Jets improve their defense and depth on defense without drafting? A 1st this year would be in a timeline to replace De Melo, hoping Morrissey re-signs in a contract that takes him past late 30s.

Heinola for an ELC d-man? Future draft picks for d-men trades? Like Dillon?

 

[DRW204]

A 181 lb. Namestnikov has done well in the role he's competing for. Yager's obviously not #1 overall pedigree, but to do the things Namestnikov has done to work on that line and make it to +18, what does he need to improve? Skating is probably #1. But there may be things he does better already, like win draws.

Yes obviously not #1 overall so not sure why you even brought up Jack Hughes as a comparison or benchmark.
The Jets may have 3 top 9 spots open next year including 2 in the top 6, there not all going to be prospects or players with limited to no experience.

 

[KingBogo]

He would be an upgrade on Vlad in almost every way, great face off guy as well, I could see him gelling with Ehlers and Fetts very nicely, as a pure rental he is probably the best option for our 2C heading into the playoffs.

That said it all comes down to cost (and if he will actually waive for us) I don't mind paying a first + prospect not named Salo or Yager but with all that said I would still prefer we target Cozens, bigger risk and maybe not as impactful as Brock would be off the bat but it could solve our 2C woes for a long time if the risk pays off.

I agree with this thinking. While, not totally opposed to a pure rental, I'm much more leaning towards Chevy trading for players with term.