Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Gm0ney]

Frederic gets no PP time and has been playing mostly with offensive black holes like Brazeau and Kastelic. Still, he has more 5v5 goals and primary assists per 60 than Namestnikov, who plays mainly with Ehlers and Perfetti.
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Over the past 3 seasons, Frederic has been considerably more productive offensively than Namestnikov at 5v5.
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Considering his usage, Frederic has actually been driving offense at 5v5 this season, but he's playing with wingers that are not offensively skilled.

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This all seems like pretty marginal upside with some significant downsides. He's going to be a pure rental and I don't think he'll come cheap.

 

[DRW204]

if the Jets want a bit more size on the 2nd line you can promote either Lowry or Nino up there & not have to spend possibly a 1st+ for Frederic.

If it's Nino, then the 3rd line maintains some previous continuity/familiarity with Iafallo-Lowry-Appleton.

Id get a lower-end acquisition that can add some finish for the 4th line. ie: Gaudette or Donato (cost dependent ofc). & then 2 of Perfetti, Barron, Kupari or Gus to fill it out.

 

[surixon]

This all seems like pretty marginal upside with some significant downsides. He's going to be a pure rental and I don't think he'll come cheap.

Agreed. I'd like someone much more certain as an upgrade in that spot if we are to go that route.

He seems like he could be a fit with Lowry and Nino, but as you mentioned the cost might be too high and we'd be taking a PK out to put him in.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Well he just came out of 4 Nations, and out of the 14 goals scored against Finland he was on for 2 and one was a trap pass from Barkov into his feet. He was on for 2 goals for including the only one against the U.S. they scored and the GTG against the Swedes. None either way in the Canada game.

His PK metrics are close to Samberg's with similar ice time. He'd be tops on the Jets in shot blocks.

And he has 2 Stanley Cup rings for playoff experience.



Yet you want Carlo, lol. Bruins fans describe him as playing with head trauma. His PK metrics are close to Stanley's.

Lucky for both you guys looks like the Utah No Names are still competing for the playoffs. Doesn't sound like they have given up.

Their first game back from Four Nations will be their first of the season with all their defensemen healthy.

If the Jets had to go 50 games patching their defense without their #2, and half that without their #3, wouldn't be sitting so pretty.

Third pairing would be Miller-Carlo

His career pk metrics are far better than stan... he had concussion issues this december but looks to be back in form now...

I just think hes a guy with huge upside that would be cheap - ie heinola package

His numbers with lindholm were off the charts this year until both ran into inuries... bit of a gamble

 

[CanMerc]

Fourth place overall last year and first place this year and they are building for a run for next year or the year after? That's some serious main board stuff there.


Seeing as you didn't dispute what I said you must agree?
He is a slow inconsistent soft defenseman.

How’d they do in the playoffs last year?

 

[10Ducky10]

How’d they do in the playoffs last year?

They didn't win the cup...same as 30 other teams.

Explain how this is a building year for next year or the year after.
You do know they have been in first or second for practically the whole season so far right?
You do know this isn't the main boards right?

 

[voyageur]

Third pairing would be Miller-Carlo

His career pk metrics are far better than stan... he had concussion issues this december but looks to be back in form now...

I just think hes a guy with huge upside that would be cheap - ie heinola package

His numbers with lindholm were off the charts this year until both ran into inuries... bit of a gamble

I don't think Miller is going to play his offside. The righty-righty experiment that involved Miller-Pionk last one, two periods? And it was Pionk that had to play his offside because he had more comfort level at it. So it would be brand new territory. I don't see the Jets going that way but I understand your position on the player a little better now.

 

[Jets 31]

I like the idea of the Jets being hard to play against but just don't get slower . That's when you take penalties because you can't keep up with the pace of play. With our PP i want the other teams taking penalties because they can't keep up to us .

 

[Whileee]

I don't mind Frederic at all. He was coming off a 40 point season, is a Right shot and has size and plays very physical. I don't think there bringing him in to play top 6. I bet he comes in and plays along side Lowry if anything and you drop Apples to the 4th line.

It depends on the cost really for him.

I also think that Parayko is a real trade target too. I also think Laughton and Risto are being eyed as well. I think the general consensus is the Jets want to be hard to play against come playoff time

I haven't been impressed with Parayko with Morrissey in the 4 Nations, but it's a very high level of competition and they haven't played together before. I think the Jets' system is D-friendly, too. I do think the Jets would probably like a bigger and more physical D to play with Morrissey, who is going to be the focus of heavy, physical play in the playoffs. That's why I could see Risto or Parayko as trade targets. Parayko has a NTC so he might not even be available to the Jets.

I prefer Frederic over Laughton, who I don't think adds anything beyond what Namestnikov offers. Frederic would offer a boost in size and physicality and he has some offensive potential.

I also wonder if the Jets might look at Soucy as a Stanley replacement. He's had a rough season, but he's had a few good seasons and has playoff experience.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Jets definitely need a 2C and D depth going into the playoffs…the regular season and playoffs are completely different kinds of hockey and this team as it is isn’t built for the playoffs…having bottom 6Cs play 2C or wingers playing 2C is not a recipe for a Cup.
Meh moves like Frederic, McCann, Risto, etc…do nothing to make this team actual contenders.
It’s looking more and more like this year is building year for a run next year or the year after…that or Chevy better get his ass in gear and start focusing on the actual issues and stop wasting time with what we don’t need.
Yes it’s hard to get what we need, but that doesn’t change the fact that we need it.

With Helle and Scheifele playing the way they are this has to be the year. They are not going to get better with age.

Not saying they are going to fall off a cliff next year, but each being 5% less effective next year wouldn't be any surprise. Figure another 5% the next year and so on until one year, not too far away, either or both do fall off that cliff.

The positive experience with the Ehlers-Lowry combination might encourage the Jets to look for a Lowry-type C for that 2nd line, if they can't acquire Nelson, ROR or another top forward. That's where a forward like Frederic might fit. But he is going to be fairly costly (maybe as much as a 1st + prospect / young player, I would think) and he's only a rental at this point.

With very few 1sts available this year you think Frederic will return one? Seems like a very high price to pay for a marginal talent to me. Maybe there is competition for his services. In that case I would look elsewhere.

 

[Bob E]

I don't mind Frederic at all. He was coming off a 40 point season, is a Right shot and has size and plays very physical. I don't think there bringing him in to play top 6. I bet he comes in and plays along side Lowry if anything and you drop Apples to the 4th line.

It depends on the cost really for him.

I also think that Parayko is a real trade target too. I also think Laughton and Risto are being eyed as well. I think the general consensus is the Jets want to be hard to play against come playoff time

Would love to see the Jets be harder to play against, though players that can score as well would be more welcome. Schenn would be my ideal acquisition.

Frederic is a left shot, but I would really like him slotting in that 4C or 3RW spot.

 

[Bob E]

This won't be a popular take, but I would take Boeser over Ehlers based on playoff production and play. Ideally, we could sign Boeser next year as a FA and not give up any assets to add him. He might be a little slow of foot, but a 40 g winger is always welcome on my top 6.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

With very few 1sts available this year you think Frederic will return one? Seems like a very high price to pay for a marginal talent to me.

A first is a high price for him, not to mention + prospect, no way he is commanding that.

This won't be a popular take, but I would take Boeser over Ehlers based on playoff production and play. Ideally, we could sign Boeser next year as a FA and not give up any assets to add him. He might be a little slow of foot, but a 40 g winger is always welcome on my top 6.

I like Boeser but he had one 40 goal season and that was with JT, EP and Quinn going ballistic last season, definitely an outlier, that ain't happening again, I would take Ehlers over Boeser any day personally but how about we just have both?

 

[surixon]

A first is a high price for him, not to mention + prospect, no way he is commanding that.


I like Boeser but he had one 40 goal season and that was with JT, EP and Quinn going ballistic last season, definitely an outlier, that ain't happening again, I would take Ehlers over Boeser any day personally but how about we just have both?

That is something I don't think people take into account when talking about Brock. He's played the last number of years with a high end point producing number 1 center. So unless he pushes Vilardi off the top line that isn't something he'd get here.

I think you have to consider how he'd look in a lesser role with a much lesser center.

 

[DRW204]

i hope the Jets can nab a surefire top-6er to shore up the 2nd line, however, this TDL - at least what is being posted as trade bait - is shaping up to be a dud. maybe some lower depth upgrades and roll with what you have outside of that. then float the 2025 1st+ (or equivalents) for Dobson or surefire 2C in the off-season.

 

[Bob E]

If Ehlers and Pionk aren't signed before TDL, then my ideal playoff lineup after the trade deadline is:

Connor/Scheif/Vilardi
Perfetti/B Schenn/Boeser
Niederreiter/Lowry/Appleton
Barron/Namestnikov/Iafallo
Gus

Morrissey/Parayko
Samberg/DeMelo
Fleury/Miller
Stanley

Hellebuyck
Comrie


Pionk+Kupari+Lucius+2025 1st for B Schenn+Parayko
2026 2nd+Barlow for Boeser

Ehlers for a 2025 1st (to recoup pick lost in StL deal) + A prospect (to replace Barlow)

 

[Whileee]

I don't mind Frederic at all. He was coming off a 40 point season, is a Right shot and has size and plays very physical. I don't think there bringing him in to play top 6. I bet he comes in and plays along side Lowry if anything and you drop Apples to the 4th line.
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It depends on the cost really for him.

I also think that Parayko is a real trade target too. I also think Laughton and Risto are being eyed as well. I think the general consensus is the Jets want to be hard to play against come playoff time

Frederic shoots L. He's played a fair bit of C this year, but doesn't look like an upgrade in the FO dot compared to Namestnikov. Arniel is going to want a good FO option, I would think.

If Ehlers and Pionk aren't signed before TDL, then my ideal playoff lineup after the trade deadline is:

Connor/Scheif/Vilardi
Perfetti/B Schenn/Boeser
Niederreiter/Lowry/Appleton
Barron/Namestnikov/Iafallo
Gus

Morrissey/Parayko
Samberg/DeMelo
Fleury/Miller
Stanley

Hellebuyck
Comrie


Pionk+Kupari+Lucius+2025 1st for B Schenn+Parayko
2026 2nd+Barlow for Boeser

Ehlers for a 2025 1st (to recoup pick lost in StL deal) + A prospect (to replace Barlow)

Kind of optimistic that the Jets could acquire 3 players with NTCs. I'll be surprised if they can get even one player with term and a NTC.

 

[Huffer]

That is something I don't think people take into account when talking about Brock. He's played the last number of years with a high end point producing number 1 center. So unless he pushes Vilardi off the top line that isn't something he'd get here.

I think you have to consider how he'd look in a lesser role with a much lesser center.

Grass is always greener. Much rather have Ehlers if both were an option.

 

[Jets 31]

This won't be a popular take, but I would take Boeser over Ehlers based on playoff production and play. Ideally, we could sign Boeser next year as a FA and not give up any assets to add him. He might be a little slow of foot, but a 40 g winger is always welcome on my top 6.

Don't think Vancouver is going to trade Boeser unless they fall out of the playoff hunt .

 

[DRW204]

ideally id have boeser and ehlers playing together... ehlers does well (& the 2nd line too) with a variety of linemates over the years who really do not have games predicated on speed.
boeser is a superior offensive option than names or perfetti. unless he's a disaster or unfixable defensively, i wouldn't worry to much on that side given this team's buy-in and coaching this year. even KCs defensive game has improved, so that gives me some optimism that boeser would not stink.

 

[10Ducky10]

ideally id have boeser and ehlers playing together... ehlers does well (& the 2nd line too) with a variety of linemates over the years who really do not have games predicated on speed.
boeser is a superior offensive option than names or perfetti. unless he's a disaster or unfixable defensively, i wouldn't worry to much on that side given this team's buy-in and coaching this year. even KCs defensive game has improved, so that gives me some optimism that boeser would not stink.

Who plays center?

 

[CanMerc]

I haven't been impressed with Parayko with Morrissey in the 4 Nations, but it's a very high level of competition and they haven't played together before. I think the Jets' system is D-friendly, too. I do think the Jets would probably like a bigger and more physical D to play with Morrissey, who is going to be the focus of heavy, physical play in the playoffs. That's why I could see Risto or Parayko as trade targets. Parayko has a NTC so he might not even be available to the Jets.

I prefer Frederic over Laughton, who I don't think adds anything beyond what Namestnikov offers. Frederic would offer a boost in size and physicality and he has some offensive potential.

I also wonder if the Jets might look at Soucy as a Stanley replacement. He's had a rough season, but he's had a few good seasons and has playoff experience.

No interest at all in Risto…like less than zero.
Parayko, would be ok if the chemistry thing with Morrissey is just that it’s new and they’ll adapt into it.
As for forwards…zero interest in Frederic or Laughton.
I’d rather Dumoulin replace Stanley, or Lauzon maybe… but ultimately anything that gets him out of regular TOI rotation is a plus

2C is our biggest need in my opinion, and in my head, I keep going back to Cozens as a possible 2C option… this team and coaching could really turn him around. He’s still young, is signed with term, (though his pay is a tad high), but if you put him between Ehlers and Perfetti, there could be magic…or an implosion…but life is risk

 

[CanMerc]

They didn't win the cup...same as 30 other teams.

Explain how this is a building year for next year or the year after.
You do know they have been in first or second for practically the whole season so far right?
You do know this isn't the main boards right?

I’m saying, outside making the playoffs, regular season standings mean nothing in the playoffs…they were 4th last year but didn’t get past the 1st round. We are not built for a deep run without an actual, proper 2nd line C..not a plug in or rotating group..an actual 2C.
The D can be addressed with Depth, though eventually we will have to address the top 4 RHD, but our top 6 is currently a top 5. We need to add that last player.

 

[DRW204]

Who plays center?

probably someone still on the team, either names or lowry. i don't see a surefire top-6 C really other than nelson on the trade list. but it's not like perfetti has been a worldbeater on the other wing.

 

[kylbaz]

What about Boone Jenner? Prob not cheap though